Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

[escYOUnited]

Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[Mrm]

Press will put Nali low and pump Peyote for all their worth if the last few years are anything to go by.

And the one who benefits of it is Ermal Meta, right?

 

[I bims]

So I just saw that Ermal is the hot favourite to win and I listened to his song... Meh.
If you excuse me I'm going to sacrifice something to El Diablo real quick to help Madame win.

 

[elanyvx]

Ermal is already to the Gold Final because the televote is good for him. About Annalisa depends of press, if they put her down, Ermal will win I think.

 

[rasmuslights]

Would Ermal go to esc again tho? i think he would give the chance to someone else? what do Italians here think?

 

[rasmuslights]

Here is the youtube playlist for the studio versions of all the 26 artists for those who are interested:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBJuQRRbpye6U2zbppcs1ykVddls8yX7n

I think I know why I may have issues connecting with some of the songs, because they are performed with 'live' orchestra, so they are unable recreate the sounds of a studio version. Some songs don't work with 'live' orchestra especially those entries with very modernized sounds.

that is true.. some modern songs have a completely different atmosphere live - Gaia is mostly hurt by this I think.

 

[crashworld]

that is true.. some modern songs have a completely different atmosphere live - Gaia is mostly hurt by this I think.

Usually I like myself a 'live' band/orchestra because they will create a different take on a song. But then it's so jarring to hear the auto-tune on some artists' vocals and then you have the music with the 'live' orchestra. Actually, it would have been nice if for one of the nights, the artists are able to perform their tracks with the studio version's instrumentals.

And I listened to the songs in studio form, for example, Francesca & Fedez's song sound pretty good in the studio version but somehow I thought it fell flat in the actual 'live' performance and it's not because of the vocals. But I thought the 'live' orchestra version didn't translate the song well enough.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

When you have a lot of artists who can go to the ESC to make a good impression, it creates rifts in music fans. Not only in Italy, even here in the thread I have seen users prefer one or the other artist. I would like to point out that when a music festival manages to generate impatience, fear and debate it means that it is a winning festival. Do you really think Ermal Meta will win? The Italian public loves Ermal Meta but we all agree that the best choices for the ESC are Irama, Maneskin and ... very distant from them Willie Peyote. There will be a surprise victory, a victory for a handful of points.

When I read that Italy always sends the usual "ballads", I smile. Each year we are the only or among the few nations that carry a different genre. Those who always focus on the same "safe songs" or better, with a "perfect sound for the ESC" are not us. Often some of you have wondered how Italy always has a lot of choice and brings a song from "Top 10" every year. Do you want to know the answer? It is not because "Sanremo is a reality detached from the ESC" (as many like to say to make us seem egocentric) but because our artists don't think of the "right song for the ESC", they just experience music! Also, when a competition has a value instead of being seen as just accessing the ESC, the value of the songs is higher and the competition becomes close-fought. Go and see the songs in the competition: we have excellent classical melodies, rap, indie, dance and even the much loved by Euro-revelers, trash! If Davide Toffolo or Lo stato Sociale had competed for Andorra everyone would have torn their clothes and proclaimed them dangerous adversaries for the victory. "The Roop" or "Go_A" are two of these examples (with the only difference that in their songs I see a little more content than other artists of the past).

Anyway ... no one ever thought that ... if Ermal Meta wins, he might say "I don't want to go to the ESC. I want to give other singers a chance"? Remember that the winner of Sanremo can also refuse to go to the ESC. Ermal Meta has already represented Italy together with Moro with a beautiful "social song" that reached a good position in the ranking but ... did not win (compared to the political song "1944" which caused Russia to leave for a year - sorry but ... the regulation does not say that there must be no political texts?). Ermal Meta knows he has a song less suitable than others for ESC 2021. Even if ... let's assume that Irama or Maneskin won. The same lovers of party, captivating sound and wild dancing would never vote for us or give us a handful of points saying that ... this year, after the sad time we lived ... they prefer something more melodic and romantic! A "ballad", to be understood haha.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Usually I like myself a 'live' band/orchestra because they will create a different take on a song. But then it's so jarring to hear the auto-tune on some artists' vocals and then you have the music with the 'live' orchestra. Actually, it would have been nice if for one of the nights, the artists are able to perform their tracks with the studio version's instrumentals.

And I listened to the songs in studio form, for example, Francesca & Fedez's song sound pretty good in the studio version but somehow I thought it fell flat in the actual 'live' performance and it's not because of the vocals. But I thought the 'live' orchestra version didn't translate the song well enough.

There have been a lot of audio problems this year. Sanremo has had to deal with the difficulties of this period. The other years the orchestra has always given added value to the song in the competition. The studio version is good but kills the beauty of the live performance a little bit.

 

[Mimmon]

Would Ermal go to esc again tho? i think he would give the chance to someone else? what do Italians here think?

Very likely yes

 

[Mimmon]

My Top 26 from Night 3

1.Måneskin with Manuel Agnelli–Amandoti
2.Ermal Meta with la Napoli Mandolin Orchestra–Caruso
3.Annalisa with Federico Poggipollini–La musica è finita
4.Aiello with Vegas Jones–Gianna
5.Fasma with Nesli–La fine
6.Gio Evan with the singers of The Voice Senior–Gli anni
7.Irama–Cirano
8.Random with The Kolors–Ragazzo fortunato
9.Bugo with Pinguini Tattici Nucleari–Un’avventura
10.Francesca Michielin & Fedez–Medley Del verde
11.La Rappresentante di Lista with Donatella Rettore–Splendido Splendente
12.Gaia with Lous and the Yakuza–Mi sono innamorato di te
13.Willie Peyote with Samuele Bersani–Giudizi universali
14.Madame–Prisencolinensinainciusol
15.Malika Ayane–Insieme a te non ci sto più
16.Lo Stato Sociale with Sergio Rubini & i lavoratori dello spettacolo–Non è per sempre
17.Orietta Berti with Le Deva–Io che amo solo te
18.Colapesce & Dimartino–Povera patria
19.Coma_Cose with Alberto Radius & Mamakass–Il mio canto libero
20.Max Gazzè & La Trifluoperazina Monstery Band with Daniele Silvestri & The Magical Mistery Band – Del mondo
21.Ghemon with Neri per Caso – Medley Le ragazze/Donne/Acqua e sapone/La canzone del sole
22.Fulminacci with Valerio Lundini & Roy Paci–Penso positivo
23.Arisa with Michele Bravi–Quando
24.Extraliscio feat. Davide Toffolo with Peter Pichler–Medley Rosamunda
25.Francesco Renga with Casadilego–Una ragione di più
26.Noemi with Neffa–Prima di andare via

 

[EscGeek]

ok, so here are the songs i root for the most

1-Lo Stato Sociale "Combat Pop"
2-Måneskin "Zitti e buoni"
3-Francesca Michielin & Fedez "Chiamami per nome"
4-Gaia "Cuore amaro"
5-Fasma "Parlami"
6-Annalisa "Dieci"
7-Ermal Meta "Un milione di cose da dirti"
8-Willie Peyote "Mai dire mai (La locura)"

I'm not sure why Ermal is the favorite to win, this is his worst sanremo song to date (and yet, he's still one of my faves, which just shows how good he is)
The standards he set were very high though. Vietato morire was my second only behind one and only Mister Gabbani. and "Non mi avete fatto niente" was actually my winner (with Lo Stato Sociale second and Annalisa third which meant my top 3 was the actual top 3 haha)
I'm also a fan of his debut "Giovani" song, but again he was overshadowed by Gabbani. I'd love it if Ermal returns, but knowing that Viceversa lost, is going to sting a little.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

ok, so here are the songs i root for the most

1-Lo Stato Sociale "Combat Pop"
2-Måneskin "Zitti e buoni"
3-Francesca Michielin & Fedez "Chiamami per nome"
4-Gaia "Cuore amaro"
5-Fasma "Parlami"
6-Annalisa "Dieci"
7-Ermal Meta "Un milione di cose da dirti"
8-Willie Peyote "Mai dire mai (La locura)"

I'm not sure why Ermal is the favorite to win, this is his worst sanremo song to date (and yet, he's still one of my faves, which just shows how good he is)
The standards he set were very high though. Vietato morire was my second only behind one and only Mister Gabbani. and "Non mi avete fatto niente" was actually my winner (with Lo Stato Sociale second and Annalisa third which meant my top 3 was the actual top 3 haha)
I'm also a fan of his debut "Giovani" song, but again he was overshadowed by Gabbani. I'd love it if Ermal returns, but knowing that Viceversa lost, is going to sting a little.

I agree with you, Ermal Meta's song is beautiful but it is weaker than those of the past. but we must think that he was voted by the "opinion poll jury" (much criticized in Italy) and ... he must thank his great talent. His interpretation of "Caruso" was very strong. He didn't sing in Italian but ... in "Neapolitan Italian"! He is now at the top but then he will be overtaken by the popular vote. Here in Italy, even if we love Ermal, everyone is afraid that he will win. Few will vote for it. Italians prefer Irama, Maneskin, Willie Peyote, Fasma and F&M.

 

[HayashiM]

TBH, I don't think Ermal will win, as much as I would've loved that. He must've taken a huge lead in fact, being the only one who placed top 5 in both rankings so far, and winning them both. At the same time, (almost) everyone else's average got more level. So Ermal could probably still remain n°1 overall even if he ranked around 10th tonight. I'd say it's pretty much a given at this point that he will be in the top 3 - but then I predict the press jury will find a different favourite there.

Otherwise, I think Francesca and Fedez are now out of the game, and so is probably Fasma. Maneskin did enter the top 10, but just barely, it still would've been quite a long shot. All of these acts will improve in the rankings a lot but reach 4th place at best.

Arisa rose pretty high, but I doubt she can keep herself there or even threaten the top 3. She doesn't have the song for that.

It's now for Annalisa, Irama and Willie to fight for the remaining two spots besides Ermal. My money would still be on Irama getting there and then winning the whole thing.

 

[mauve]

I personally really would wish to see Måneskin to win the whole thing ... yes, maybe not realistic, but I really love their song. Some said at ESC Måneskin would compete with Blind Channel, but then again the two are not the same kind of rock at all. They appeal to different audiences. BC is definitely more audience-friendly, whereas Måneskin isn't. I love both very, very much this year.

 

[Flamenkax]

I think that tonight the press will root for Willie Peyote, tomorrow the televote going more to Irama (his performance video on YT has been exceeded Ermal's one)...
So in the end i somewhat think that the final top 3 will be balanced between Irama, Willie and Ermal.
Would be totally fine with it, even though Ermal's song left me underwhelmed tbh...

Personally rooting for Willie and Maneskin, i've been putting their song on repeat since. 'Specially Willie's one.
And yeah, me too i really wanna see a rock battle between Maneskin and Blind Channel

 

[stephanos13]

Are Orchestra rankings included in the results before the Superfinal? Because in the final the result is calculated with this format: 34% Public televoting; 33% Jury of the Press Room, TV, Radio and Web; 33% Demoscopic Jury.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

TBH, I don't think Ermal will win, as much as I would've loved that. He must've taken a huge lead in fact, being the only one who placed top 5 in both rankings so far, and winning them both. At the same time, (almost) everyone else's average got more level. So Ermal could probably still remain n°1 overall even if he ranked around 10th tonight. I'd say it's pretty much a given at this point that he will be in the top 3 - but then I predict the press jury will find a different favourite there.

Otherwise, I think Francesca and Fedez are now out of the game, and so is probably Fasma. Maneskin did enter the top 10, but just barely, it still would've been quite a long shot. All of these acts will improve in the rankings a lot but reach 4th place at best.

Arisa rose pretty high, but I doubt she can keep herself there or even threaten the top 3. She doesn't have the song for that.

It's now for Annalisa, Irama and Willie to fight for the remaining two spots besides Ermal. My money would still be on Irama getting there and then winning the whole thing.

HayashiM, I agree with you. I add that Ermal Meta will arrive in the final at 3 for a much more subtle reason than we think. Irama, Willie Peyote, Maneskin, F&M, Fasma and ... let's also say Annalisa enjoy the favor of the general public (especially young people). Can you imagine a final, for example: Maneskin vs Irama vs F&M? It would be something crazy and unpredictable. Italy already knows who it wants to send to the ESC and wants to avoid this. That's why we are raising the votes of Ermal Meta and we also say of Annalisa. I don't know ... Irama seems right to me because it would bring "something new", a romantic but at the same time dance sound. The Maneskins, on the other hand, would bring "dirt", intended as a good thing, and in this case it would be a battle with the Blind Channel. However, this "rock battle" is as compelling as it is counterproductive. Both Italy and Finland would risk fighting each other and being overtaken by a "third wheel". No, I believe in Irama. Oh my God ... when I do all these calculations I feel Julius Caesar about to launch the final attack on Vercingetorix haha. It is fascinating how much music hides deep strategies.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I personally really would wish to see Måneskin to win the whole thing ... yes, maybe not realistic, but I really love their song. Some said at ESC Måneskin would compete with Blind Channel, but then again the two are not the same kind of rock at all. They appeal to different audiences. BC is definitely more audience-friendly, whereas Måneskin isn't. I love both very, very much this year.

That's right, Mauve. I agree with you. Blind Channel and Maneskin are two different things but ... it would be a great excuse for some clever eurofans to muddy things up. Remember last year when they said that Diodato had an "old ballad" when it was a ballad but it had been interpreted and elaborated in a modern way. The fear is that this wonderful "Rock Battle" could be counterproductive for both Italy and Finland. At least that's my humble opinion. That said, it's nice to have a lot of worries. It means we have several valid arrows.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Are Orchestra rankings included in the results before the Superfinal? Because in the final the result is calculated with this format: 34% Public televoting; 33% Jury of the Press Room, TV, Radio and Web; 33% Demoscopic Jury.

All rankings are valid until the fifth evening and will determine the places from fourth to twenty-sixth position. Then everything will be reset for the "Super Final 3".

 

[RainyWoods]

I've been listening to the studio version of Arnica and somehow it's hitting me even harder. There's something about it as a piece of music that just absolutely overwhelms me. It's lushly magnificent and yet there's such an underlying sadness to it all that really hits me right in the gut. You can feel the pain being fought through here, and you can sense that it's being overcome. Taken from an article:

On the stage of the Ariston the singer-songwriter arrives with “Arnica”, a passage that lists moments or situations that heal the soul. “We are all wounded but we have to start doing the things we can, like Sanremo. We are together in difficulty and pain. This awareness is arnica”, he says and explains: “It is a song that represents me. Which is mine. Arnica? The climbing, but also the tours, the writing, the composition. That’s when you have the magic inside “.

I don't speak Italian and yet it's one of those special moments where a song power punches its way through the language barrier to deliver what it needs to say to you. Before I even read a translation of the lyrics Arnica had me thinking of my own problems, the trials I'm still dealing with, and it also somehow managed to get me thinking about what needs to be done, the things I love that keep me going. The three minutes offer such an emotional release.

I'm mesmerised as well by the way Gio performs. There's no doubt that his eccentricities on stage will be polarising and perhaps that's what's holding him back on the scoreboard (I've got to look for reasons here as honestly I'm confused). For me though his mannerisms add another layer to what is an incredibly powerful yet vulnerable performance.

This is my favourite song of this entire national final season, and it's not even close. Such a breathtaking composition and enthralling performance. If by some chance a miracle happens and Arnica becomes your Eurovision entry (I understand sadly that it won't), I cannot see any other song topping it within my heart. This one reaches me deeply. I'm so grateful for it.