Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[HayashiM]

Aside from last night's funny jokes, today I will try to see things coldly. I want to take the RainyWoods ranking (whose tastes I respect) as a reference:

01. Max Gazzè e la Trifluoperazina - Il Farmacista 10/10:

Max is one of the most eclectic artists on the Italian scene. He has always been a musical experimenter and his interpretations are almost always bordering on madness. I really like him as a singer.

Gazzè unfortunately will not win Sanremo. I know Sanremo and the Italians. There is more chance that the glorious Roman Empire will resurrect.

RainyWoods has good tastes to say that Gazzè is his favorite and I'm sure Gazzè fully reflects the European taste for fun. However ... we are Italy ... if this song were brought, for example, by San Marino, hordes of Eurofan would tear their clothes to proclaim the victory (Israel and Netta docent). We could not even count in friendly votes that keep our song in the upper parts of the chart (Ukraine "Solovey" and "Shum" docent). "Il farmacista" would rank sixteenth (at best). Italy will never believe in this song for the ESC.

02. Colapesce e Dimartino - Musica leggerissima 9/10:

So ... Colapesce and Dimartino brought an interesting song to Sanremo. Personally, both the musical part and the sung part reminded me of some songs from the 70s. The beauty of all this was that they totally reinterpreted that sound and created something new and pleasant. But this song also has its limits. Do you really think Sanremo will win? Moreover, if it wins, as happened with "Fai Rumore" which had the only defect of being defined "Ballad", many Eurofans would enjoy saying that this song is "a blink of an eye to the past". Colapesce and Dimartino will never represent Italy at the ESC.

03. Måneskin - Zitti e buoni 9/10:

The Maneskin are the contenders for the victory of Sanremo. Do I really have to explain "the suspense rule" to you? It's typical not to reward the best songs right away. I would also like to remind you, yesterday's vote is still partial! When I read in Bernadette Cydonia's message that Italy will never rock the ESC, I laughed. Italy was the only European nation to bring a different musical genre every year. Also, aren't we forgetting about Mahmood? Hurried comments that give me so much of an apotropaic gesture (typically a ball scratch). This makes us understand that the song could be dangerous on the ESC. When a song is good it never has fully positive opinions, while when it is a normal song it is filled with compliments. I believe the battle between Maneskin and Blind Channel would be epic. I wouldn't care who wins at all but it would make the ESC glow.


04. Francesca Michielin e Fedez - Chiamami per nome 9/10:

Here I had mixed feelings: I was pleasantly surprised on the one hand, on the other hand I knew that Fedez would be the winning weapon of the duet. He is a good composer and has a very good stage presence (a presence not made up of weird ballets but where his rap enters you). Michielin is a good singer but she is one of those singers who must be accompanied by a level artist or get lost. However, this song is one of the contenders for the victory of Sanremo. But I hope it doesn't win because it's not one of Fedez's best songs, it's nothing new and I think it would be a weak choice for the ESC.

05. Francesco Renga - Quando trovo te 8/10:

Francesco Renga is a great artist who has always made great songs. His songs, however, have always been what most Eurofans hate: they are romantic, melodic and the stage presence is set. Yesterday's song wasn't bad but not one of the best songs either. Sanremo will never win even if Chtullu rises from the bowels of the Earth.

06. Aiello - Ora 8/10:

Aiello totally looks like "Fabrizio Moro's caricature". The song is poignant but you know what the best part of the song is? The musical one. The singing was fluctuating: at times poignant, at times without control ... in practice, he screamed like a monkey. Could he be calling Gabbani's naked monkey to him? "I Aiello, you Cita".


07. Noemi - Glicine 7/10:

Gianni Morandi, some Sanremo ago, said that Noemi was the "Italian Janis Joplin". Unfortunately, at that moment I was drinking tea ... for the surprise, I nearly suffocated ... this is a real heresy ... Noemi has a good voice but it is nothing special. The only great value of Noemi is the very particular vocal timbre. His songs, however, are all the same: a slow flow almost spoken, a loud scream and a depressed romantic melody. "Glicine" wasn't a bad song but ... Sanremo will never win. It is possible that an asteroid will crash on Liguria first.

08. Arisa - Potevi fare di più 7/10:

As I already expressed yesterday, Arisa gave us a powerful and interpretative vocal test but ... it is the same as a thousand other songs of hers. Apart from "Sincerità", Arisa's songs are like Toto Cutugno's: the lyrics change but the sound is always the same. Sanremo will never win. Perhaps the Apocalypse will break out first.

09. Coma Cose - Fiamme negli occhi 7/10:

Pleasant song, very sweet interpretation but ... Sanremo cannot win nor represent Italy at the ESC. Having said that, I wish Coma_Cose a good career.

10. Annalisa - Dieci 6/10:

I fully agree with RainyWoods. Annalisa has been 6 in fact, I add that everything about this singer is 6. I never understood how she managed to emerge but ... ok, music is a vast sea and therefore I respect her as an artist. However, his songs are all like "Dieci": so light as to become impalpable. Annalisa's problem is that she has no strength to fix her and her songs in the hearts of listeners: after Sanremo, both she and her songs inevitably fall into oblivion. Annalisa is the perfect candidate for Italy to overcome the negative record of "Voy a quedarme" with the joy of those who want us out of the fight for the ESC and from our territory: the "Top 10".

11. Ghemon - Momento perfetto 5/10:

In Italy there is a mystery that no one has ever managed to solve "Who is Ghemon?". I often see this unacceptable guy among the "Champions" ... last night's song was also very good (compared to his sad past) but obviously he can't win. Perhaps it is better that he returns to be the thief along with Lupin III and Jigen.

12. Madame - Voce 5/10:

I must say that I had high expectations for Madame. Maybe I was infected by Mrm's enthusiasm. However ... it was a real disappointment. Among the worst. I hope that in the future she can rise up and enter the hearts of all listeners. The only good thing is that it looks like the merger between Ermal Meta and LP. A nice character.

13. Fasma - Parlami 5/10:

Here I totally disagree with RainyWoods. "Parlami" is much weaker than last year's song, this is true, but it can compete for the victory in Sanremo. Fasma has a good stage presence, his voice is particular and his song is romantic and new-style (a perfect Italian Trap poster). As with Maneskin, when a song is hated it is often the one that is among the best. Many may say to me "You do not spoil Madame! Then she is good!". No, it takes objectivity ... Madame was very bad. Anyway ... I hope he comes second or third, the victory must be for the Maneskin. I think the latter have a much better chance at ESC.

Diodato:

I am still waiting for explanations from many Eurofans on what is different from "Fai Rumore" from "Voilà" by Barbara Pravi.

I think that the song of France is more linked to tradition than that of Diodato. Why is she now elevated to the virtual winner of the ESC? Why don't they tell them "She's old" or "It sucks" or misspell the model name "Fui Rumore"? I believe that the song from France can actually win the ESC and I wish it did (in my ranking it is in second position behind Finland). But ... "Voilà" also has flaws: in some places it seems "too marked" and theatrical. I notice a violent and ostentatious French accent (perhaps it is the typical accent of the city of Pravi). Why hasn't anyone talked about it? Having said what I think, I just want to understand the yardstick used by many Eurofans. That's why I first expressed doubts about Gazzè and the fact that we can't afford the luxury of sending him to the ESC. It seems that we, after having spent millions for Sanremo and paid to enter the ESC (you don't go there for free), can afford to support a Eurovision Song Contest as an organizing country. Mmm ... maybe it is this year ... where the expenses were "minor" we can risk winning the ESC. Prepare the 0 POINT! Haha.

I conclude that, I thank everyone who just rated the music, appreciated us and were friendly. We love you!

What else to say ?! I want the second evening of Sanremo to start now! I am impatient! Haha.

I am not sure I get your point with Fai Rumore (my n°1 last year) x Voilà (my n°1 this year so far) - do you think that Voilà gets more appreciation than Fai Rumore did? Fai Rumore scored top 10 in the last round of our ranking game here last year though, see this link.
Honestly I'd say both songs got a very similar reception and their fanbases (and hater bases, and fan arguments, and hate arguments) will largely overlap...
The main difference could probably be that Voilà got some hype already since December and it got selected super early, we only had two or three other songs at that point (and actually not that many entries since!), which makes the hype more visible.

I agree Barbara's performance is quite theatrical but I'd say it's well within "I am confidently selling the best out of my entry" boundaries. I don't find her accent to be anyhow violent, it would be interesting if our French friends could share their opinion on that matter.

 

[JSSArcos]

I heard all the songs again and my top changed a little (to see the quality of this festival)

1-Måneskin - 10/10 - please italy, send this !!!
2- Madame - 10/10 - what a performance of this girl, i'm totally in love
3- Francesca Michielin e Fedez 9.5/10
4- Fasma 8.5/10
5- Annalisa 8/10
6- Arisa 7.5/10
7-Colapesce Dimartino 7/10
8-Max Gazzè e la Trifluoperazina Monstery Band 6.5/10
9-Noemi 6.5/10
10-Aiello 6/10
11-Francesco Renga 5.5/10
12-Coma_Cose 5/10
13-Ghemon 3.5/10

Madame and Måneskin would be my number 1 of the season (so far) sorry Barbara hahha

 

[Looren]

Here is my ranking after the first night

1. Arisa "Potevi faré di piu" (10/10)
2. Francesca Michelin & Fedez Cantano "Chiamami per nome" (9/10)
3. Gaudiano "Polvere da sparo" (9/10)
4. Coma Cose "Fiammi negli occhi" (8/10)
5. Folcast "Scopriti" (8/10)
6. Noemi "Glicine" (7/10)
7. Colapesce & Dimartino "Musica leggerissima" (7/10)
8. Annalisa "Dieci" (7/10)
9. Madame "Voce" (7/10)
10. Elena Faggi "Che no se" (6/10)
11. Avincola "Goal" (6/10)
12. Aiello "Ora" (6/10)
13. Francesco Renga "Quando Trovo Te" (4/10)
14. Fasma "Parlami" (3/10)
15. Ghemon "Momento Perfetto" (3/10)
16. Max Gazzè & la Trifluoperazina (1/10)
17. Manekin "Zitti e buoni" (1/10)

 

[elanyvx]

Running order for this second night

Newcomers:
1. Wrongonyou
2. Greta Zuccoli
3. Davide Shorty
4. Dellai

Big singers:
1. Orietta Berti
2. La Rappresentante di Lista
3. Lo Stato Sociale
4. Bugo
5. Gaia
6. Willie Peyote
7. Malika Ayane
8. Fulminacci
9. Extraliscio
10. Ermal Meta
11. Ermal Meta
12. Irama
13. Random

 

[elanyvx]

two members of Irama's team tested positive for the swab. As the regulation says, he should withdraw from the competition, because after this case he should remain in quarantine for 10 days with the others connected to him and the two of the staff.
Irama will probably be withdrawn, perhaps they could broadcast the rehearsal with the orchestra two days ago, but in any case he seems to have officially retired, he will not be able to be on stage.

 

[elanyvx]

moreover the journalists point out to the conductor and to the Rai team that the Maneskin song seems to be a plagiarism. They will evaluate soon.

 

[crashworld]

Someone has kindly compiled the 'live' performances in a playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLb_Qew9DujkhPq31KfGWSiIXQ3UKgcEGx

I think I am one of the minorities or maybe the odd one out, but nothing impress me so far. I am usually quite a fan of Italian entries for the past recent years (2012, 2018 and 2019). This is the first time I am watching all the entries that participate in San Remo, so I am not sure what to expect but I am surprised that I was pretty lukewarm to all the performances I have watched. Like literally, I can't even pick one that I will want to go back and listen to. I wonder if it's something like Portugal, where you have to be from that region to fully appreciate and enjoy the music. But I am going to give the studio versions another try. Hopefully there is something in the second batch that will grab me.

 

[stephanos13]

Maneskin and Analisa were great last night.

Fransesca and Fedez need a little bit more work. on the staging I would think. But they have a good song.

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I am not sure I get your point with Fai Rumore (my n°1 last year) x Voilà (my n°1 this year so far) - do you think that Voilà gets more appreciation than Fai Rumore did? Fai Rumore scored top 10 in the last round of our ranking game here last year though, see this link.
Honestly I'd say both songs got a very similar reception and their fanbases (and hater bases, and fan arguments, and hate arguments) will largely overlap...
The main difference could probably be that Voilà got some hype already since December and it got selected super early, we only had two or three other songs at that point (and actually not that many entries since!), which makes the hype more visible.

I agree Barbara's performance is quite theatrical but I'd say it's well within "I am confidently selling the best out of my entry" boundaries. I don't find her accent to be anyhow violent, it would be interesting if our French friends could share their opinion on that matter.

Appreciation and non-appreciation get all the songs. This is mainly due to the subjective nature of the music. However, it does not seem to me that "Voilà" has suffered harsh criticism resulting in outright offenses. The link you brought me to my attention, I appreciated it but, I want to tell you the results of the new round of the "Ranking Game" (I have to update it of the latest votes - maybe there is some error but the difference can be a few points):

1) Finland 523
2) France 518
3) Lithuania 502

Comparing these grades it is noted that 0 points were rarely given and from the first moment the grades were pleasantly balanced. Since last year, Diodato, for many, not all, of the forum, was nowhere near in contention to win. In these new votes, however, the true values of the songs are respected (apart from overestimating, in my opinion, "The Roop"). Here lies my difference and my point of view.

As for Barbara Pravi, if she wins I'm happy! Finland or France so far, for me, are the winners of the ESC 2021. Objectively they are the most beautiful songs (even if the others are very respectable opponents). Don't you agree with me? That France has brought "what I know how to sell best", I have always recommended for many years where France had lost its wonderful musical path. Each song has pros and cons (my comments against Italian singers were balanced and, in some cases, very caustic too). I like to look beyond, I like to say things as they are and when I have to say things I say them frankly, without mincing words or false smiles. I always take responsibility for the clever or stupid things I say. In some points of "Voilà", then our French friends will enlighten us, I thought I heard too marked "R". Definitely marking the singing increased that pleasant, in my opinion, theatrical touch and perhaps it is normal or perhaps it depends on the various accents existing in France. Haven't you noticed?

 

[Mimmon]

I feel this will be my favourite in selection

 

[stephanos13]

All the contestants will perform their songs three or four times?

 

[hzalfa]

All the contestants will perform their songs three or four times?

3 times, once on the first two nights, once on the fourth night and once on the last night. On the third night they will perform covers.

Also, an update on the trending videos: Annalisa is now #3 with the live performance and #5 with the studio version, Maneskin are #4 and #6 in the same fashion.
After that we have only studio versions: Noemi at #7, Arisa at #9, Aiello at #10, Madame at #12, Fasma at #15, Coma_Cose at #16, Francesco Renga at #18.

Madame's and Arisa's live performances have already disappeared from the trending page, but it's so unstable atm that if I reload the page they might be there again. Francesca&Fedez are still #1 and #2

 

[blein]

My top 3..
1-Madame 10/10
2-Måneskin 10/10
3-Francesca Michielin e Fedez 10/10

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

MÃ¥neskin - ZITTI E BUONI (Official Video â Sanremo & EUROVISION 2021 Winners)

RUSH! (Are U Coming?) new album edition by Måneskin Listen & Download - https://maneskin.lnk.to/Rush_AreUComingMåneskin – Zitti e BuoniAscoltala su https://s...

www.youtube.com

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Fasma, GG - Parlami (Official Video - Sanremo 2021)

Ascolta PARLAMI qui: https://SMI.lnk.to/parlamiPRODUCED & DIRECTED BY LAMAOWNERS (Alessandro Mancini / Lorenzo Ambrogio)ART: DONATO PICCOLODOP: ANDREA ARNONE...

www.youtube.com

 

[Mimmon]

Fasma, GG - Parlami (Official Video - Sanremo 2021)

Ascolta PARLAMI qui: https://SMI.lnk.to/parlamiPRODUCED & DIRECTED BY LAMAOWNERS (Alessandro Mancini / Lorenzo Ambrogio)ART: DONATO PICCOLODOP: ANDREA ARNONE...

www.youtube.com

Im in love with this.....

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

Francesca Michielin, Fedez - CHIAMAMI PER NOME (Official Video - Sanremo 2021)

Ascolta Chiamami per Nome qui https://SMI.lnk.to/chiamamipernome Da un'idea di Francesca Michielin e Fedez Management Francesca Michielin: Latarma Management...

www.youtube.com

 

[mauve]

Fasma, GG - Parlami (Official Video - Sanremo 2021)

Ascolta PARLAMI qui: https://SMI.lnk.to/parlamiPRODUCED & DIRECTED BY LAMAOWNERS (Alessandro Mancini / Lorenzo Ambrogio)ART: DONATO PICCOLODOP: ANDREA ARNONE...

www.youtube.com

The first words are Japanese ("hanashite") and means "Talk to me")., so "Parlami".

​

 

[Edweis]

I agree Barbara's performance is quite theatrical but I'd say it's well within "I am confidently selling the best out of my entry" boundaries. I don't find her accent to be anyhow violent, it would be interesting if our French friends could share their opinion on that matter.

In some points of "Voilà", then our French friends will enlighten us, I thought I heard too marked "R". Definitely marking the singing increased that pleasant, in my opinion, theatrical touch and perhaps it is normal or perhaps it depends on the various accents existing in France. Haven't you noticed?

I was summoned.

Barbara doesn't have an accent, or if she does, I didn't catch it (and I'm no stranger to accents). But she has excellent diction. She pronounces every word clearly, hence some sounds seem marked. To be honest, even if I'm not a fan of the song, it's a pleasure to hear the words flowing out from her lips.
The 'R' sounds change depending on your accent though, in the southern ones it will be rolled.

About the different criticism Diodato and Barbara received, yes she seems overall more appreciated but for me they're hardly comparable. Yes, they're both "traditional" in their own way, but for a starter styles and rhythm are different, the way of delivering the vocals have no similarity etc. You can't expect those who disliked Fai Rumore to dislike Voilà and vice-versa.

 

[HayashiM]

Appreciation and non-appreciation get all the songs. This is mainly due to the subjective nature of the music. However, it does not seem to me that "Voilà" has suffered harsh criticism resulting in outright offenses. The link you brought me to my attention, I appreciated it but, I want to tell you the results of the new round of the "Ranking Game" (I have to update it of the latest votes - maybe there is some error but the difference can be a few points):

1) Finland 523
2) France 518
3) Lithuania 502

Comparing these grades it is noted that 0 points were rarely given and from the first moment the grades were pleasantly balanced. Since last year, Diodato, for many, not all, of the forum, was nowhere near in contention to win. In these new votes, however, the true values of the songs are respected (apart from overestimating, in my opinion, "The Roop"). Here lies my difference and my point of view.

As for Barbara Pravi, if she wins I'm happy! Finland or France so far, for me, are the winners of the ESC 2021. Objectively they are the most beautiful songs (even if the others are very respectable opponents). Don't you agree with me? That France has brought "what I know how to sell best", I have always recommended for many years where France had lost its wonderful musical path. Each song has pros and cons (my comments against Italian singers were balanced and, in some cases, very caustic too). I like to look beyond, I like to say things as they are and when I have to say things I say them frankly, without mincing words or false smiles. I always take responsibility for the clever or stupid things I say. In some points of "Voilà", then our French friends will enlighten us, I thought I heard too marked "R". Definitely marking the singing increased that pleasant, in my opinion, theatrical touch and perhaps it is normal or perhaps it depends on the various accents existing in France. Haven't you noticed?

Well, there's also the possibility of people disliking acts that beat their favourits, but I don't think it would be as present with Diodato x Gabbani, Viceversa was nowhere near as popular as for example Cicciolina or Bulletproof in the ESC bubble.
Don't forget that people can now only vote for 14 songs, so it's quite obvious there's not gonna be that many 0s for France at this moment, but the situation will probably change in the next 2 weeks when the new songs start pouring in. The link I gave you for Diodato on the other hand included 36 entries. I'd say being 3rd from 14 (that's where France was in the last game) is just about as good as being 7th from 36, really...
One last point of comparison - I think there's quite a few people here who loved Voilà on the first listen and now it is fading on them, at least that's what i saw mentionned in France's thread. Fai Rumore was perhaps on the opposite side, slowly growing on people? I mean at least I was so angry when it won over Viceversa! It took me some time to fully appreciate it. Perhaps those journalists at Sanremo really know what they are doing

I am really not sure about those marked "r"s. Maybe these are there, if yes, than it could be some artistic choice (reminding us of Edith Piaf even more? ), but to my ears it overall sounds like the usual dramatic sung French, perhaps slightly influenced by some local accent as you say.

Anyway, I absolutely agree, France and Finland have both brought something that's quite distinctive of their craft, they do it very well, and are for me by far the best from 2021 so far.