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Israel ISRAEL 2020 - Eden Alene - Feker Libi

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  • 12

    45 37.5%
  • 10

    17 14.2%
  • 8

    17 14.2%
  • 7

    10 8.3%
  • 6

    8 6.7%
  • 5

    3 2.5%
  • 4

    4 3.3%
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    5 4.2%
  • 2

    1 0.8%
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    3 2.5%
  • 0

    7 5.8%

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escYOUnited

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This is not my kind of music at all but I really appreciate the effort! For now I'll give it 7 points but maybe I'll get more into the song soon... It has the potential for it.
 

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Here I see the :12: fly ... I honestly think that many get caught up in the euphoria. Let's look at the good points:

1) Eden Alene has a great voice and manages to give depth to the song.
2) Eden Alene is the owner of the stage.
2) The sound is energetic.

Now let's look at the bad ones:

1) The singing is not original: it is a fusion between African music (Rihanna model; often Rihanna has often used this genre for her songs, mixing it with other genres) and Latin American music (Shakira model).
2) The dance and the movements are too frenetic, a nice copy of the crazy movements of Conan Osiris (Portugal 2019). A power without control.

Do you want to know the fate of this song at ESC 2020? It will have the same path as "Fuego" by Eleni Foureira.

On the whole, a song to have fun but that at the end of everything is only chaos which, when finished, leaves nothing.

I am truly perplexed by the cries of joy and extreme admiration.

Maybe in the lower middle part of my "Top 10". I have to decide how many points to give.

Yet Fuego is one of the few cross-over hits from Eurovision in the past decade xshrug , so hardly a "bad path" :lol:

Still it's more original than most ESC entries, and no one is saying it's trying to invent the wheel or anything, which again how many ESC entries do that? Or Pop songs in general... ? xshrug
 

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Yet Fuego is one of the few cross-over hits from Eurovision in the past decade xshrug , so hardly a "bad path" :lol:

Still it's more original than most ESC entries, and no one is saying it's trying to invent the wheel or anything, which again how many ESC entries do that? Or Pop songs in general... ? xshrug
I, comparing "Fuego" to "Feker Libi", made a compliment to this song. I am sure it will move the energy of many euro-enthusiasts. It is a prediction dictated by my observation of the European public of these years.

However when I speak of "lack of originality", I do not express that a singer must invent a totally new song but show a "new product". The product is a very strong copy of the music of Rihanna and Shakira. You can't deny it.

The music is catchy but it happens that in the frenzy it loses a little control and gets lost.

For me it's a :6:
 

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THE GOOD:
-I like the cutesy concept of the song.
-Overall, it's a fun, danceable song.

THE BAD:
-There are just too many languages in this song, though I understand why.
-The vocals and the instrumentals seem to be competing with each other throughout.

THE VERDICT:
First of all, I commend Eden and her team for taking on such an ambitious choice of this song with its four (five?) languages. The song is fun, light-hearted, and doesn't seem to take itself too seriously. However, there are still too many languages here for my liking at least. Another point I had was that I could barely hear her vocals over the instrumentals at times. From here, the staging for the performance looked a bit amateur, too. I would like to see this in the Final, but if those things (the staging and the vocal/instrumental competition) are not fixed come May, that might not happen. 7 points
 

Nemo89

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THE GOOD:
-I like the cutesy concept of the song.
-Overall, it's a fun, danceable song.

THE BAD:
-There are just too many languages in this song, though I understand why.
-The vocals and the instrumentals seem to be competing with each other throughout.

THE VERDICT:
First of all, I commend Eden and her team for taking on such an ambitious choice of this song with its four (five?) languages. The song is fun, light-hearted, and doesn't seem to take itself too seriously. However, there are still too many languages here for my liking at least. Another point I had was that I could barely hear her vocals over the instrumentals at times. From here, the staging for the performance looked a bit amateur, too. I would like to see this in the Final, but if those things (the staging and the vocal/instrumental competition) are not fixed come May, that might not happen. 7 points
Good analysis.
 

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I, comparing "Fuego" to "Feker Libi", made a compliment to this song. I am sure it will move the energy of many euro-enthusiasts. It is a prediction dictated by my observation of the European public of these years.

However when I speak of "lack of originality", I do not express that a singer must invent a totally new song but show a "new product". The product is a very strong copy of the music of Rihanna and Shakira. You can't deny it.

The music is catchy but it happens that in the frenzy it loses a little control and gets lost.

For me it's a :6:

Oh ok, my bad, from the context it was read as something negative rather...

My point is that Eurovision rarely shows "new products" these days in that sense, I still think compared to the majority of entries this still have more personality and flavor, but if people look for something completely new then yeah, I think we can clearly say it's hard to find in the contest as a whole... Iceland last year was one of those rare moments when I experienced something that felt out of the box and something new, not only in ESC context but generally, but then again those moments are rare I'd say.
 

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also, PETTY TIME: eden performed all four songs to her best abilities and didn't make it clear which one she wanted to win, leaving it truly to the voters. roxen can't relate xheat
 

Israeliboy

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THE GOOD:
-I like the cutesy concept of the song.
-Overall, it's a fun, danceable song.

THE BAD:
-There are just too many languages in this song, though I understand why.
-The vocals and the instrumentals seem to be competing with each other throughout.

THE VERDICT:
First of all, I commend Eden and her team for taking on such an ambitious choice of this song with its four (five?) languages. The song is fun, light-hearted, and doesn't seem to take itself too seriously. However, there are still too many languages here for my liking at least. Another point I had was that I could barely hear her vocals over the instrumentals at times. From here, the staging for the performance looked a bit amateur, too. I would like to see this in the Final, but if those things (the staging and the vocal/instrumental competition) are not fixed come May, that might not happen. 7 points

The performance will be changed. She had to work on 4 different performance in 3 weeks, including singing 4 songs in one evening, plus dancing . . . that's not my worry at all. Doron knows what he is doing.
 

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The performance will be changed. She had to work on 4 different performance in 3 weeks, including singing 4 songs in one evening, plus dancing . . . that's not my worry at all. Doron knows what he is doing.

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the staging or performance come May, I rarely judge NF performances as in most cases they tend to change, in some cases quite radically, and with a big venue, effects etc. , I mean it's just not a proper comparison. Sweden is one of the few countries that tend to send a "ready package" from its national final.
 

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also, PETTY TIME: eden performed all four songs to her best abilities and didn't make it clear which one she wanted to win, leaving it truly to the voters. roxen can't relate xheat
~I~ can relate to roxen's utter lack of effort. Procrastinator princess xheart

pity the song they chose is some morose boring crap huh.
 

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Maybe Rakata was my favourite but I love this too.


Good job Israel, you never disappoint me. xheartxheart
 

Nemo89

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Oh ok, my bad, from the context it was read as something negative rather...

My point is that Eurovision rarely shows "new products" these days in that sense, I still think compared to the majority of entries this still have more personality and flavor, but if people look for something completely new then yeah, I think we can clearly say it's hard to find in the contest as a whole... Iceland last year was one of those rare moments when I experienced something that felt out of the box and something new, not only in ESC context but generally, but then again those moments are rare I'd say.
A-lister, my writing is so frank that sometimes people think I'm "cold" or "critical". But I respect every artist and every country very much. My criticism is purely technical.

Eden will surely reach the "Top 10" and probably the "Top 5" but compared, let's take an example, Ukraine has been more innovative this year.

Last year I liked the Hatari and the AWS in the ESC2018. Both brought new sounds and tried to experiment.

Experimentation mixed with the artist's unique interpretation generate a good product that survives over the years. Otherwise it's just infatuation. One question, in 10 years will you remember "Feker Libi"?
 

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@Mrm Em, I think you misunderstood me. I like Natalia more. I don't like Eden ...
No I didn't beleive, me, I don't like always comments which speak how they like/love my faves.. :D
I like/love comments which i find good, valuable, interesting, funny.. :)
In the end we have the same no1 mauve.. :lol: xyaaay
 

NikolaiMoller

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My ranking of Israeli entries

No other country comes close to their record. Always serving quality, be it a bop or a ballad.

2010 :12:
2011 :12:
2012 :8:
2013 :10:
2014 :8:
2015 :12:
2016 :5: (Nofar Salman's version would have been a solid :12: tho)
2017 :12:
2018 :12:
2019 :3:

Ohh, I wanna do that as well!

2010 :12: (one of my all time favorites)
2011 :12: (soooo good)
2012 :10: (a guilty pleasure)
2013 :12: (still on my playlist - SO underrated and far better than "Only Teardrops")
2014 :10: (underrated again)
2015 :8: (a fun and great bop!)
2016 :7: (it grew on me a lot)
2017 :8: (grew on me too)
2018 :12: (a great winner - loved it from the beginning)
2019 :2: (Israel, was that you????)
 

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A-lister, my writing is so frank that sometimes people think I'm "cold" or "critical". But I respect every artist and every country very much. My criticism is purely technical.

Eden will surely reach the "Top 10" and probably the "Top 5" but compared, let's take an example, Ukraine has been more innovative this year.

Last year I liked the Hatari and the AWS in the ESC2018. Both brought new sounds and tried to experiment.

Experimentation mixed with the artist's unique interpretation generate a good product that survives over the years. Otherwise it's just infatuation. One question, in 10 years will you remember "Feker Libi"?

No it's fine, everyone are entitled to their opinions, I was just trying to "get" your point of view that's all, but I think I get it better now.

I have no idea, I think music these days are generally short-lived since we live in fast-moving times. Frankly though, ESC entries rarely leave an impact on the general music scene. Outside of the ESC bubble, I'd say that from the past decade/s we have only a handful of entries that are remembered to this date by the general public.
 

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Ohh, I wanna do that as well!

2010 :12: (one of my all time favorites)
2011 :12: (soooo good)
2012 :10: (a guilty pleasure)
2013 :12: (still on my playlist - SO underrated and far better than "Only Teardrops")
2014 :10: (underrated again)
2015 :8: (a fun and great bop!)
2016 :7: (it grew on me a lot)
2017 :8: (grew on me too)
2018 :12: (a great winner - loved it from the beginning)
2019 :2: (Israel, was that you????)

TASTE!!!!!!!!! I can put my signature under your list and claim it mine xheart xheart
 
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