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France FRANCE 2020 - Tom Leeb - The Best in Me

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We have some news about Destination Eurovison (in french)

https://www.ozap.com/actu/alexandra-redde-amiel-ftv-avec-nos-nouveaux-divertissements-nous-allons-surprendre/584159

Interview with Alexandra Redde-Amiel, the new director of entertainment of France TV.
In short, DE will comeback next year, but with a new presentator, a new format and maybe a new name.

I can not wait for more news. No more Garou is already a big improvement for me, he was so bad.

I read the interview two days ago. It sounds good for me. Moreover, they still didn't open submissions for the artists, so we are likely having a national selection with artists chosen with an internal selection, I'm curious to see the result. She said they're aiming at a top 3. Btw the JESC song will be released "in a few days", likely on next friday.
 

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I read the interview two days ago. It sounds good for me. Moreover, they still didn't open submissions for the artists, so we are likely having a national selection with artists chosen with an internal selection, I'm curious to see the result. She said they're aiming at a top 3. Btw the JESC song will be released "in a few days", likely on next friday.

A national final with internally selected artists? Sounds great! If they manage to pick the right entries according to FTV's criteria... then we're back in the game. :D
 

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Hey guys, what's going on with Indila? She released a FANTASTIC new song on 23rd August and then vanished again. Just this one song, with no video, no whole album...What? Why?
 

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Hey guys, what's going on with Indila? She released a FANTASTIC new song on 23rd August and then vanished again. Just this one song, with no video, no whole album...What? Why?

She's beyond understanding :lol: Apparently, a MV for "Parle à ta tête" is supposed to be released in a "near" future (is it a matter of days? weeks? no info on that).

During a concert, she said a few weeks ago her second album wasn't finished yet, but it's getting there.

The way she and her team manage her comeback is strange though, I thought once the track was released they would promote the hell out of it, but apparently they didn't bother preparing everything beforehand. Maybe they thought fans would make the song a success from day one, which didn't happen. They'll have to work harder to let people know she's back.
 

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She's beyond understanding :lol: Apparently, a MV for "Parle à ta tête" is supposed to be released in a "near" future (is it a matter of days? weeks? no info on that).

During a concert, she said a few weeks ago her second album wasn't finished yet, but it's getting there.

The way she and her team manage her comeback is strange though, I thought once the track was released they would promote the hell out of it, but apparently they didn't bother preparing everything beforehand. Maybe they thought fans would make the song a success from day one, which didn't happen. They'll have to work harder to let people know she's back.

anyway, i'd totally buy Raiven taking part for :fr: this year since :sl: seemingly isn't interested in her any longer. :mrgreen:
 

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She's beyond understanding :lol: Apparently, a MV for "Parle à ta tête" is supposed to be released in a "near" future (is it a matter of days? weeks? no info on that).

During a concert, she said a few weeks ago her second album wasn't finished yet, but it's getting there.

The way she and her team manage her comeback is strange though, I thought once the track was released they would promote the hell out of it, but apparently they didn't bother preparing everything beforehand. Maybe they thought fans would make the song a success from day one, which didn't happen. They'll have to work harder to let people know she's back.

This is really strange! Living here in Poland, where Indila was loved by millions of fans in 2014, I just learned about the song like... two days ago.
And "Parle à ta tête" is simply mind-blowing, good "old" Indila!
 

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I have to post the song here so that people can listen to. This is sooooo suitable for Eurovision! This is exactly what France needs, but unfortunately it was released before 1st Sept.

 

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Speaking about the national selection, I feel a bigger probability of France2 doing some internal selections for artists and songs, then put it in a one-night national final. It would somehow hybridize the internal selections that brought us Amir and Alma, and the 'beloved' Destination Eurovision that brought us two songs by Madame Monsieur. And also Bilal.
 

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Speaking about the national selection, I feel a bigger probability of France2 doing some internal selections for artists and songs, then put it in a one-night national final. It would somehow hybridize the internal selections that brought us Amir and Alma, and the 'beloved' Destination Eurovision that brought us two songs by Madame Monsieur. And also Bilal.
As I said above, Steven Clerima (our head of delegation)'s words go in that direction. He said almost a month ago that he was happy that some artists who sent songs a year ago or two are still trying for next year.

? Like how can he say this since they didn't open submissions ? The only possibility is that they offered the possibility by themselves to a few internal artists that they know thanks to their network but they don't want artists to send songs directly by themselves.
 

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As I said above, Steven Clerima (our head of delegation)'s words go in that direction. He said almost a month ago that he was happy that some artists who sent songs a year ago or two are still trying for next year.

? Like how can he say this since they didn't open submissions ? The only possibility is that they offered the possibility by themselves to a few internal artists that they know thanks to their network but they don't want artists to send songs directly by themselves.

In order to avoid singers like Lisandro or Bilal sending their entries to FTV.
 

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In order to avoid singers like Lisandro or Bilal sending their entries to FTV.

Ok for Bilal but why Lisandro ? I was for Mercy but I have to admit that his song was more Eurovision compatible, he would've ended up at least top 5 with the juries.
 

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Ok for Bilal but why Lisandro ? I was for Mercy but I have to admit that his song was more Eurovision compatible, he would've ended up at least top 5 with the juries.

Oh please, his song was anything but appealing to casual viewers. no wonder he didn't win the televote during DE despite having a quite huge fanbase.
 

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Oh please, his song was anything but appealing to casual viewers. no wonder he didn't win the televote during DE despite having a quite huge fanbase.

I had rather the impression, that the public was more seduced by the topic of Madame Monsieurs' song as it was up to date. I'm still convinced he would have done better in Lissabon, but we'll never know.
 

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Oh please, his song was anything but appealing to casual viewers. no wonder he didn't win the televote during DE despite having a quite huge fanbase.

Not only the music was too cookie-cutter to be interesting imho, but the lyrics were also unrelatable and WTH-esque: I wonder who thought "hey, I've a brilliant idea: let's tell the story of a single mother who turns out to be a depressed stripper" :lol: OK, he avoided the "boy meets girl" cliché, but still that was weird.

Visually, they missed the mark as well: between the dance break coming out of nowhere and the model they brought on stage at the end of the performance. :lol:

I never was a fan of "Mercy", but at least it was a tad more authentic and interesting musically and lyrically compared to "Eva". With that being said, I also think we might have done slightly better with Lisandro (not a top 5 though :lol: let's keep it real) simply because juries tend to overrate this kind of soulless stuff. That's the dilemma everyone faces: either send something plastic to maximise one's chances of getting a good placing, or go off the beaten path at the risk of being ignored or underrated. Personally, I'll always prefer the latter.
 

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Oh please, his song was anything but appealing to casual viewers. no wonder he didn't win the televote during DE despite having a quite huge fanbase.

You said "huge fanbase" ? His first single wasn't a huge success and his first album barely sold 10 000.

Not only the music was too cookie-cutter to be interesting imho, but the lyrics were also unrelatable and WTH-esque: I wonder who thought "hey, I've a brilliant idea: let's tell the story of a single mother who turns out to be a depressed stripper" :lol: OK, he avoided the "boy meets girl" cliché, but still that was weird.

Visually, they missed the mark as well: between the dance break coming out of nowhere and the model they brought on stage at the end of the performance. :lol:

I never was a fan of "Mercy", but at least it was a tad more authentic and interesting musically and lyrically compared to "Eva". With that being said, I also think we might have done slightly better with Lisandro (not a top 5 though :lol: let's keep it real) simply because juries tend to overrate this kind of soulless stuff. That's the dilemma everyone faces: either send something plastic to maximise one's chances of getting a good placing, or go off the beaten path at the risk of being ignored or underrated. Personally, I'll always prefer the latter.

I didn't say top 5 overall but only with the juries, lol.
 

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I didn't say top 5 overall but only with the juries, lol.

I got it :mrgreen: I just wonder who Lisandro could have ousted in the juries' top 5 that year xthink Eleni, Michael, Netta, Benjamin and Cesar were tough competitors.

A 6-10 placing with juries might have been more doable imo, hopefully not to the detriment of Goddessa Nechayeva who deserved more already xcry1
 

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F**k. She has already been mentioned earlier but I'm just saying it again because she's a goddess : Yseult for Eurovision.
 

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"Corps" is amazing. And so is her latest EP. Her interpretation skills are so on point and unparalleled in our current music scene, it's crazy.

I thought of posting this video too. I'm really into what she's releasing at the moment, sonically-speaking it reminds me of Sevdaliza.

Eurovision would be a nice platform for her to turn the spotlight on her work through a live performance before a wide audience. But would she be interested in trying her luck? At least she could consider participating in Destination Eurovision, it might give her a boost promotion-wise. It's not like we see her everywhere.

At any rate, I'd be behind her 100%. She's the kind of artist (with a vision) that I'd like to see more of in our national selection.
 
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