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France FRANCE 2020 - Tom Leeb - The Best in Me
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Sammy
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I honestly think Lisandro and Seemone both would have achieved a top 5 result, if not the win (especially Lisandro). Hopefully this time France will make the best decision (not saying that Madame Monsieur or Bilal were bad ones, though). It‘s about time to bring the ESC back to France. But I admit that it was a difficult choice both times. For me the Destination Eurovision was by far the best NF in both years of its existence.
You're right, hence why I talked about the media and a part of the eurofans who actually shares that way of thinking.
As you said, on the other end of the spectrum the general public (mainly) tends to be way more critical and categorical about our entries. Thankfully, we ESC United members here sit in the middle, which I think is healthier when discussing and - ultimately - reacting to our final result.The concern I expressed is that the people who have the power to launch the career of our representative might consider that a mid-table placing is not a good enough result for them to invest more in whoever flew our flag. I hope I'm wrong, but given how our last representative haven't really capitalised on Eurovision, that's the impression I have.
BorisBubbles
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I agree with the idea that France isn't going to win in the upcoming decade. If you cannot believe in your own entries, how can you possibly convince the rest of Europe to vote for you?
Besides, strong streaks come and go.Greece, Armenia, Turkey and Latvia were powerplayers during the 2000s look how well they did in the 2010s. The glory days of Ireland are in the distant past, the glory days of Azerbaijan a vague memory. The upcoming decade will probably see the end of the Russian-Swedish hegemony in favour of a different power player. France could take on that role, but it really feels like Australia and Italy will be filling up the power vacuum once Sweden inevitably NQs again.
Besides, strong streaks come and go.Greece, Armenia, Turkey and Latvia were powerplayers during the 2000s look how well they did in the 2010s. The glory days of Ireland are in the distant past, the glory days of Azerbaijan a vague memory. The upcoming decade will probably see the end of the Russian-Swedish hegemony in favour of a different power player. France could take on that role, but it really feels like Australia and Italy will be filling up the power vacuum once Sweden inevitably NQs again.
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i think france wins in the next decade probably lol. they have improvements to make in their selection and production, but most other countries have bigger issues. italy is really the only country doing everything right as of this moment, so unless juries decide to reward that now, the next winners will all be netta/duncan-esque one-year strokes of genius, anyway.
BorisBubbles
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The only thing jurors consistently seem to reward (besides sanitised radio-friendly pop) is confident performances. ie: performances that look professional. I far from condone this twisted jury logic, but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.
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Well is it just me or has Eurovision become way more serious the latest years? I think it's hard to know really who'll be the big players the next decade but I struggle to not see Sweden and Russia to be honest whereas I feel Italy will need better jury scores and Australia better televote scores to compete with Russia and Sweden. I think I read that if you count the averages this decade, Sweden tops the list with Italy coming 2nd, Australia 3rd and Russia 4th!
Now it will change - Bulgaria had some strong years and I don't doubt they would've tried hard this year despite EQUINOX's disappointing result. Germany had some strong years. Norway, Netherlands, Austria etc
Maybe something will happen once Björkman's not in charge of Sweden anymore in 2021, but I believe he's grooming his perfect successor
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You're wrong concerning Amir, he is still very popular in France. Lately he got one of his biggest hit "Longtemps", you know the copycat of "Perfect" from Ed Sheeran.Alma had that album, it was fine, but nothing special. To me it seems she does not try too much. Amir seemed to be quite popular after the contest, but lately I see his momentum slowing a bit. As for MM didn’t follow them much as well.
He won "La chanson de l'année" ("the song of the year" last month, it was broadcasted on TF1 and people had to vote for their "song of the year" (it's obvious)).Concerning France at the contest, I really think we can win. If I had to guess the winners of the next decade, I'd say : Sweden (x2), Russia (x2), France, Italy, Norway, Greece/Cyprus and two surprises countries. I want Eurovision to come back in France, I want to see this before Marie Myriam passes away (and me too, lol
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I have a thought that for 2020s,
• France would become a new powerhouse and win once or twice if conditions permit
• for just a year UK becomes the fan favorite and gets good placement if not winning.
• germany rethinking again and finally sends great stuff for half of the decade
• Sweden and Ukraine would qualify mostly but gets less desirable results or to the extent of unqualifying once (or again for sweden)
• Russia would somehow won once.
• To an extent, Czech Republic and Denmark start being power players
• Most of the Balkans will revenge and get good placements, also with Malta and Greece
• Norway gains their momentum again and won once
• one of the caucasus winning, as example Georgia
• Kazakhtan joining most probably when Russia or Belarus is hosting
• Italy struggling to participate because of Silvio Berlusconi
• San Marino and North Macedonia will still unqualify much although with better numbers of qualification
• A glimpse of hope on Czech Republic and Poland winning and hosting the event
• France would become a new powerhouse and win once or twice if conditions permit
• for just a year UK becomes the fan favorite and gets good placement if not winning.
• germany rethinking again and finally sends great stuff for half of the decade
• Sweden and Ukraine would qualify mostly but gets less desirable results or to the extent of unqualifying once (or again for sweden)
• Russia would somehow won once.
• To an extent, Czech Republic and Denmark start being power players
• Most of the Balkans will revenge and get good placements, also with Malta and Greece
• Norway gains their momentum again and won once
• one of the caucasus winning, as example Georgia
• Kazakhtan joining most probably when Russia or Belarus is hosting
• Italy struggling to participate because of Silvio Berlusconi
• San Marino and North Macedonia will still unqualify much although with better numbers of qualification
• A glimpse of hope on Czech Republic and Poland winning and hosting the event
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You're wrong concerning Amir, he is still very popular in France. Lately he got one of his biggest hit "Longtemps", you know the copycat of "Perfect" from Ed Sheeran.
Concerning France at the contest, I really think we can win. If I had to guess the winners of the next decade, I'd say : Sweden (x2), Russia (x2), France, Italy, Norway, Greece/Cyprus and two surprises countries. I want Eurovision to come back in France, I want to see this before Marie Myriam passes away (and me too, lol
I guess I did not pay attention enough. Love to hear he is still doing great.
I can see France winning soon, French delegation is very close to finding the winning formula. It is sad that country with such good and big music scene, and so much musical tradition did not win at least once since 1977. Same goes for UK and Italy.FRFanESC
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*As a french, I think it would be so cool, we miss almost nothing to be a powerhouse of the contest, I think.
*UK doing well ? It's possible and I really hope for next year ! They could do really better.
*Same, It was so cool to see Germany on top of the board last year.
*Maybe It could happen with Ukraine but for Sweden, I really doubt, they're in the top 5 of the juries almost every year.
*Very likely.
*Denmark isn't already one ? They get good results quite often. As for Czech Republic, I could see them winning in the next decade. They've done well lately (6th in 2018, 11th in 2019, It's very impressive). Anyway, if not Czech Republic, I could see a central Europe country winning (Switzerland / Czech Republic / Austria / Poland but I want to include Germany too on the list).
*I want to see Malta and Greece on top of the board too, same for Cyprus, I want to see Cyrpus winning in the next years !
*Norway winning again, I want to see this too.
*Georgia hosting, I'd like to see this, lol.
*Kazakhstan absolutely has to take part to the contest in the next years.
*No, please #LeaveItalyAlone.
*I hope so, especially for North Macedonia, hoping that San Marino won't do well only with jokes entries and start to take the contest seriously with quality songs.
*Yes.
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Sadly, it seems like DE might be back next year :
https://twitter.com/BilalHassaniTV/status/1158382582628831232?s=19
The person also said below in the next tweets that he doesn't hold his information from the last rumour since yesterday night. It'll be announced soon by France TV according to him.
https://twitter.com/BilalHassaniTV/status/1158382582628831232?s=19
The person also said below in the next tweets that he doesn't hold his information from the last rumour since yesterday night. It'll be announced soon by France TV according to him.
I'd love to see sending something like 'Requiem' next year. It was my favourite in 2017, the only thing they need to focus on more is staging. Amir's, Alma's staging were alright, but not great. Bilal's staging was way over the top.
sending something like 'Requiem' next year. It was my favourite in 2017, the only thing they need to focus on more is staging. Amir's, Alma's staging were alright, but not great. Bilal's staging was way over the top.
For Godsake, please...
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1. If France will redo the voting system in DE to lessen the upper hand of the televotes, France can potentially win.
2. No... BBC has really lost it long ago and they will never come back. Only a complete overhaul by another broadcaster and the Eurovision itself getting a better reputation by the British media/people can fix it. It's however not very likely, unfortunately.
3. Indeed. Kind of the same as France above, but has Germany to up their game with a better selection of songs in upcoming NFs.
4. It will be very interesting to see what will happen to Sweden when Björkman leaves. There is a risk that the 2020s may be an era of terrible results like the late 2000s if SVT relies too much on its current formula. Even the juries can't rate Sweden on top forever, if not we could send something genuine, out of the box and GREAT again. For Ukraine... I think the decent results will still be consistent if further corruption within the selection process doesn't happen again.
5. Yes, the same as Sweden above actually. If Russia will send something amazing that will convince everyone to love the song no matter what, expect Sobral/Ryback-results.
6. It's not certain, not until we know if they can play their cards right or not. Denmark has always being a mixed bag for sending overly safe songs, Czech Republic is still new in the game. Let's see what happens then.
7. For what the Balkans have been sending recently, I would bet on North Macedonia and Slovenia. Macedonia was lucky this year with disaster NF-results, the same can happen with Slovenia. Both Balkans are trying new waters and they doing really well with the fans here. All they can do is keeping trying and hope for dumb luck. The rest of the ex-Yugos relies way too much on the same thing every year. Malta will still be a jury-pleaser, they know their trump card. Greece's downward spiral can be even worse in the next decade if they don't find a way to be relevant again.
8. Yepp, Melodi Grand Prix is very reliable for a potentially good selection of songs and they have the budget to make the staging work well. Unlike Denmark and even Sweden, Norway will take chances.
9. Azerbaijan may still flop if they keep messing up with the staging (this year they did it right, however). Georgia is the Kinder Eggs of Eurovision without what we actually want, the chocolate. I would bet on Armenia right now. Their success-ratio is the same as Estonia and 2010s Belgium, a victory with the right song and staging is very possible. Only time will tell.
10. It's possible, EBU will indeed expand the Eurovision brand further.
11. The only way to fell the mighty is to force RAI to not use Sanremo as a national selection. If Silvio Berlusconi is pro-Italexit, I hope this will not result in another 14-year wait for Italy returning again.
12. It depends on the songs they will send.
13. It's very hard to tell right now. If Poland winning, they will do it the same way Finland and Portugal did it. The novelty of a record-smashing win will be temporary, Poland will probably struggle as usual in the coming years after that. Poland does have diaspora unlike Finland though. Czech Republic would probably have the same answer as "6.".
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Well, it was one of the most epic staging in the history, lighting gold and purple, messages of empowerment esp for minorities. The staging was finally on point. I would say that over the top would staging would be like entries of belarus, Russia, Australia.. This was classy..
Lol I honestly thought this was one of the most trashy stagings I've ever seen, but everyone's taste is different