Finland FINLAND 2023 - Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[tararaaam]

Are we underestimating the juries here?
Many comments online have said the juries will kill it, and I share that concern.
Maybe though, if they see a well produced, performed, staged pop song, they'll go for it.
I can't see it topping the juries but if they like it enough, it could be 4th or 5th?
I also wonder will the fact that Finland is high in odds, subconsciously influence the jurors and cause them not to throw Cha Cha Cha under the bus?

Two words: Toy, Fuego.

 

[Lindon]

As German speaking folks would say: "short and painless": 12 points.

 

[Ezio]

Two words: Toy, Fuego.

SloMo

 

[millap]

Wow!

Despite the name of the video, that is not filmed last night in Amsterdam, that’s from UMK afterparty.

This is from last night’s Eurovision in Concert in Amsterdam

 

[marty]

Are we underestimating the juries here?
Many comments online have said the juries will kill it, and I share that concern.
Maybe though, if they see a well produced, performed, staged pop song, they'll go for it.
I can't see it topping the juries but if they like it enough, it could be 4th or 5th?
I also wonder will the fact that Finland is high in odds, subconsciously influence the jurors and cause them not to throw Cha Cha Cha under the bus?

I think the juries are always good for a surprise. This year the jury voting is very difficult to assess. In my eyes Sweden, Finland or Spain could be on the top. I am not sure if they will put a former winner on the top. But there could also be a surprise winner like in 2018 and 2019. From todays point of view Finland will win in total in my eyes.

 

[midnightsun]

I‘m still not completely sold on this entry but the verses are EVERYTHING and he‘s such a funny, lovely guy, so I would massively prefer a Finland victory over Sweden/Spain/Norway. None of these three are remotely as catchy as Cha cha cha!

 

[JenJen94]

Despite the name of the video, that is not filmed last night in Amsterdam, that’s from UMK afterparty.

This is from last night’s Eurovision in Concert in Amsterdam

Amazing! He really gets the crowd going-they just love it! I can understand why

This will do very well, potential, if not likely, top 3.

 

[jatojo]

In the latest concert recordings, I found the pre-recorded backing vocals really loud compared to his own voice. As I've always been against strong use of pre-recorded backing vocals at Eurovision, I consider this a weakness.

 

[Ferryman]

This afternoon I 'ave been mostly listening to.....Finland

My new mode of listening is without the support of any video. I just listen....

Wow, what a start. This piece is dark, pulsating, urgent, brooding, sinister, tribalistic, repeating and relentless. The Finnish lyrics somehow adding to the sense of danger.

The driving sound continues, and you're left wondering where this is heading.

You just want it to launch into some massive frenzied sabbath....

But what happens? It lands into what seems a relatively happy chorus!!

Somehow you feel betrayed. The song seems to have sold out, unable to maintain its dark origin.

It's almost brilliant. It could have been brilliant, but it seems to lack the belief to really bring the chorus it deserves.

Having seen videos of live performances the guy seems to be a fantastic performer, and I'm really looking forward to hearing and seeing him live in Liverpool. But for now though, I'm feeling a little let down.

 

[MopManMoss]

This afternoon I 'ave been mostly listening to.....Finland

My new mode of listening is without the support of any video. I just listen....

Wow, what a start. This piece is dark, pulsating, urgent, brooding, sinister, tribalistic, repeating and relentless. The Finnish lyrics somehow adding to the sense of danger.

The driving sound continues, and you're left wondering where this is heading.

You just want it to launch into some massive frenzied sabbath....

But what happens? It launches into what seems a relatively happy chorus!!

Somehow you feel betrayed. The song seems to have sold out, unable to maintain its dark origin.

It's almost brilliant. It could have been brilliant, but it seems to lack the belief to really bring the chorus it deserves.

Having seen videos of live performances the guy seems to be a fantastic performer, and I'm really looking forward to hearing and seeing him live in Liverpool. But for now though, I'm feeling a little let down.

Have you seen the UMK performance or just the pre party ones?

 

[Ferryman]

Have you seen the UMK performance or just the pre party ones?

I've now seen the UMK, and the London performances. Both of which are great. The UMK is dramatic.

It's just that break in the song's feeling that gives me that sense of deflation.

 

[MopManMoss]

I've now seen the UMK, and the London performances. Both of which are great. The UMK is dramatic.

It's just that break in the song's feeling that gives me that sense of deflation.

I love Finland it would be my winner most years but the issue for me is that he clearly cannot sing nearly as good as he can rap which detracts from the song

 

[Ferryman]

I love Finland it would be my winner most years but the issue for me is that he clearly cannot sing nearly as good as he can rap which detracts from the song

103 seconds of brooding building intensity......but then the climax isn't in the same groove. (Yes I did check the actual timing. Even the guitar crescendo is there in the final moment of build up.)

It is almost perfect, and that's why for me it's ultimately disappointing.

 

[Iker]

Are we underestimating the juries here?
Many comments online have said the juries will kill it, and I share that concern.
Maybe though, if they see a well produced, performed, staged pop song, they'll go for it.
I can't see it topping the juries but if they like it enough, it could be 4th or 5th?
I also wonder will the fact that Finland is high in odds, subconsciously influence the jurors and cause them not to throw Cha Cha Cha under the bus?

I agree. While it's not a jury winner I think the juries will not tank it.

 

[JenJen94]

Juries definitely won't let this one flop, I think it'll do fairly well, not 100% sure it'll be the jury winner, could, and might win the televote!

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

Juries definitely won't let this one flop, I think it'll do fairly well, not 100% sure it'll be the jury winner, could, and might win the televote!

When you say juries won't let it flop, do you mean because it's a known fan favourite with lots of buzz and that the juries will feel that they should reward it to avoid looking out of touch? Or that they won't let it flop because they'll genuinely really like it?

 

[Eidechse]

I do not like songs like Cha Cha Cha but for some reason I do love it.

10 points

 

[JenJen94]

When you say juries won't let it flop, do you mean because it's a known fan favourite with lots of buzz and that the juries will feel that they should reward it to avoid looking out of touch? Or that they won't let it flop because they'll genuinely really like it?

Because they'll genuinely really like it-I can't see them not disliking this. Every performance I've seen of his has been very strong, and I think it's something a little different too.

 

[Juliette]

What's this insanity It gets better after the dreadful beginning, though.

 

[Ferryman]

What's this insanity It gets better after the dreadful beginning, though.

But it's the beginning which is magical! Sadly that magic only lasts 103 seconds (yes, I've measured it!). After that point, I stop listening.