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Milos-BC

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Dark horse:

:lv:- I think it will do better than expected. It stays in people's ears after the first listening.

Fan flop:

:nl: - It will do well, but I think the final result won't be as good as the odds are suggesting. And I don't think it will win. The final result might be something between :ee: 2015 and :it: 2017. Technically, that's not a flop, but as the atmosphere is being created around this song that anything other than 1st place is a failure....it might be.
 

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After listening to a few lives, I've a feeling :be: could be a dark horse to do really well. Eliot's voice elevates the song out of its awkward duality.

And yes :by: could do well. ~Tamtararam, let's break the r00lz~
 

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Dark horse:
:lv:- I think it will do better than expected. It stays in people's ears after the first listening.

Thanks to whoever put this right before Romania did ensure both songs will not qualify. After a lot of outstanding or danceable songs, these two will be least remembered once the semi is over. Especially because both are similar.
 

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Thanks to whoever put this right before Romania did ensure both songs will not qualify. After a lot of outstanding or danceable songs, these two will be least remembered once the semi is over. Especially because both are similar.

how are they similar though
 

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Dark horse:

:lv:- I think it will do better than expected. It stays in people's ears after the first listening.

Fan flop:

:nl: - It will do well, but I think the final result won't be as good as the odds are suggesting. And I don't think it will win. The final result might be something between :ee: 2015 and :it: 2017. Technically, that's not a flop, but as the atmosphere is being created around this song that anything other than 1st place is a failure....it might be.

I agree on :nl:, all but victory will be seen as a flop due to the heavy favorite hype it has
 

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Like I mentioned before, I believe that the countries that I feel might flop are:

:se: - I think there is a chance this will fail to qualify. Juries might prefer other entries (the semifinal is quite strong) and from the brief survey that I did, most people I spoke to didn't find it captivating. Also the running order is not that great IMO, it's after after 3 slow songs and this song is not dynamic enough (IMO) to intrigue the voters. It's a good song but I can't help but feel it might flop ultimately.

:at: , :fi:, :sl:, :ee: - I don't believe these will qualify, they are not interesting at all IMO
:pt: - It will qualify but be outside TOP 10 in the final
:am: - same as for Sweden, except that I'm not a big fan of the song

Dark Horses:
:mk: - The message is really beautiful and I feel it might resonate with the judges (if the staging is right).
:sm: - Closing the final and quite an energetic song. I can see it easily being a favorite of the older members of the audience. There are songs in semifinal 1 that might be placed lower by the juries (namely :pl:, :by:, :ge:, :me:, :fi:, :ee:, :is: ) so I can see this qualifying.
:cz: - Very catchy and not in a very strong semifinal so this should be enough to qualify
 

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That's easy, both are rather slow to very slow, both are very repetitive, both are sung by a female longing for the absent lover, both are at 30+ position to win in the odds, neither is likely to qualify.
i cant see them being that similar. their style are quite different even though they are both slower as on a sunday has a darker vibe to me and the instruments feel more present.

i can see your point though. about their position i also think they're quite different because latvia is 100% screwed going after switzerland while romania won't take that much damage + block voting wise they are in a better position
 

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I do think they are similar, not only the song is (to me it's almost the same kind of music) but also probably staging, maybe the same colours, female singer, similar moves.

By the way, I don't think it's necessarily bad to perform after (or before) a favourite. On the contrary, the weaker song often benefits from it. But in case of Latvia... I don't think so, in the end, people (who don't watch the songs on the internet) will watch the songs on TV for the first time and just ONE time. And I'm sure they won't remember which is which, Latvia or Romania, once the semi is over.
 

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:is:
Does anyone seriously think this will end up anything but last or second to last with the juries in SF1? Like ... have you been paying attention in recent years? Would have to pull off a Top 3 placement with the televoters to qualify (which might be possible in a rather weak semi). Will either barely qualify as 10th-8th or end up anywhere from 11th-15th and therefore miss out. We shall see.

:no:
Will also be destroyed by the juries and therefore barely make it to the final. A Bottom 6 placement seems likely unless televoters massively fall for it (which I honestly doubt).

:fr:
Will be lucky to escape the Bottom 6. It`s just too mediocre to really have an impact on either judges or televoters.

:it:
Same procedure as every year. People praise the Italian entry and say that it`s way ahead of the competition (I do love the song btw) and at the end of the day it can`t live up to the hype and expectations. A Top 10 placement? Yes, thanks to the viewers but Top 5 seems VERY unlikely to me.

:mt:
Cyprus does it better - just sayin`. Will do better with juries than it will do with the televoters (duh) but will ultimately fail to have a lasting impact on both parties and will therefore end up somewhere around 20th in the final.


Dark Horses
:cz:
It`s catchy and fun - quite unlike anything else in the competition. Should be enough to make them sail through and end up somewhere around 15th in the final.

:be:
Has the potential to win the jury voting in Semi 1 IF executed well on stage. Will place around 10th in the final.

:hu:
Will qualify with ease and manage to grab a solid result between 11th and 17th in the final.
 

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Like I mentioned before, I believe that the countries that I feel might flop are:

:se: - I think there is a chance this will fail to qualify. Juries might prefer other entries (the semifinal is quite strong) and from the brief survey that I did, most people I spoke to didn't find it captivating. Also the running order is not that great IMO, it's after after 3 slow songs and this song is not dynamic enough (IMO) to intrigue the voters. It's a good song but I can't help but feel it might flop ultimately.

If you think that this won't qualify then you're deluded.
 

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:is: has fanflop written all over it, I can’t see the juries going for it and it’ll be very polarising with the televoters.
:al: and :at: could do better than expected I think. Both seem to be songs the jury will love and :at: has also been given the pimp slot over countries such as :ch: and :se:, which is quite interesting.
 

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In my opinion

Flops (I actually like most of these songs)
:ch: This won't be in the top 5, maybe not even in the top 10, especially if the performance isn't great
:be: Unless the performance is truly remarkable, this will place very badly in the semi
:pt: I don't see this qualifying, mostly due to a poor jury result
:es: The jury won't let this be on the left side of the scoreboard, and it won't do that well with televoting. Could be out of the top 20.
:dk: I'm bringing this up because it is 17th in the bookies. I think this won't be anywhere near qualifying.

Dark horses
:ru: Many people are writing this off as a contender for the win, but I think the bookies have this one right
:at: With enough jury support, this could achieve a result similar to Nathan Trent in 2017
:al: Maybe this is wishful thinking, but I believe this could place in the top 10 or even better
:hu: Will definitely qualify and I can see it just missing out on the top 10
 

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Flops:

:ee: - I'm afraid because I still don't believe how I lost my "Verona" 2 years ago. Juries were really bad to this in Eesti Laul so I see this as a possible non-qualifier and it can finish in the bottom places of the semi.

:ch: - Inspite of being one of the biggest contenders to win, I don't see this happening. It may sound too generic to the juries + the lyrics don't help. It's also a song that fades easily (but impresses easily too).

:be: - Maybe I'm just too influenced from what happened last year with Sennek, but it's a semi where the jury vote is unpredictable, for that reason I think it's far from being a safe qualifier. This will need a good staging to qualify in my point of view. There is missing something in the song, and that makes me believing in Eliot's non-qualification.

:dk: - The kind of song you are unallowed to hate. But is it enough to be a qualifier in semifinal 2? I think no. I believe there are many songs that will have more success with juries. Since fans aren't loving this one, I think 9th place in qualifying odds may be too high.

Dark horses:

:ro: - Well, it's hard for me to believe Ester is not going to qualify. The song may not be so captivating as others in that semi for televoters who are hearing the songs for the first time, but I think juries will give it many points.

:cz: - If they succeed on staging, I guess the Top 10 will be possible. Albert is an amazing performer and I think people who don't know the songs can connect with this kind of performer and with this kind of song, catchy one definitely. About juries, well, I don't know how they will react to this.

Well, I have more flops than dark horses... I don't add more dark horses because in a week they will be completely different... I think I've already had 15 different songs in that list :lol:
 

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Flops:

:au:. I think Australia can be looking at a possible NQ. I cant see the televoters going crazy for this. The juries? Nope.... At best a borderline qualifier.
:am:. Armenia has a great performer. But is the song instant enough to stand out? I highly doubt it. Opening the strong second semi, I think Armenia might struggle to qualify.
:sm: For some strange reason that I've never been able to grasp it seems that lots of fans have a huge positive bias towards SM. This year being no exception. But being in the first semi a Q is quite possible. But if so, this will be bottom 5 material in the final.


Dark Horses:

:az:. Knowing how well the country usually does the staging, I think Az might be looking at another great result. Top 10?
:be: Again; I am expecting a good staging, a good performance - And Belgium will again gather points from both televoters and juries, enough for a quite decent result.

...But I guess it's after the rehearsals are starting that some REAL dark horses will show their true colours.
 

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The more I read about it, and the more I listen, the more I think :mk: will have its best placing. The song is not really for me but I think this could be Macedonia's year for a top 10.
 

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I also tend to think by now, Macedonia will be a dark horse, as well as Austria and Lithuania. I dislike especially the Austrian one very much but both songs are a kinda soothing with a haunting line that voters will keep in their mind. I still think Slovenia will be a flop because contrary to Austria and Lithuania it's missing a real climax.
 
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