EUROVISION 2020 - General Discussion Thread

[escYOUnited]

Please post any and all discussions regarding the contest itself, host country and city, organisation, rumours and other topics not related to any specific country's selection process.

 

[Romeo]

In the horrible time we are living thought we have a few things to look forward to...

Germany's eurovision alternative
UK's isolation song contest
Sweden's eurovision week

anymore eurovision alternatives? actual competitive shows?

 

[Lindon]

Eurojury 2020 Grand Final qualifiers from SF2:

Albania, Armenia, Austria, Bulgaria, Denmark, Greece, Iceland, Latvia, Serbia, Switzerland

ESC 2020 - Semi 2:Voting Eurovision.de

1. Iceland: Daði og Gagnamagnið - "Think About Things"
13,1% 7737 votes

2. Switzerland: Gjon's Tears - "Répondez-moi"
11,6% 6841 votes

3. Bulgaria: Victoria - "Tears Getting Sober"
10,3% 6110 votes

4. Denmark: Ben & Tan - "Yes"
7,6% 4478 votes

5 Greece: Stefania - "Superg!rl"
6,8% 4032 votes

6. Austria: Vincent Bueno - "Alive"
5,6% 3287 votes

7. Serbia: Hurricane - "Hasta la vista"
5,4% 3205 votes

8. Georgia: Tornike Kipiani - "Take Me As I Am"
5,1% 3013 votes

9. Latvia: Samanta Tīna - "Still Breathing"
4,6% 2706 votes

10. Poland : Alicja - "Empires"
4,6% 2703 votes

See the pattern?

 

[EscUKFan]

Dunno if it’s already been mentioned, but the shite Come Together programme the BBC are broadcasting finishes at 8, there’s another Eurovision documentary on at 10 which leaves two hours free. Maybe they’ll broadcast Shine A Light it after all?

*I read this on another forum so don’t shoot the messenger

 

[Mainshow]

Mon Allieé is a fine song, beautifully composed and sung. The revamp elevated it even more. Same for Finland or Estonia. Sensitive men singing songs that they feel. Fans are even more dismissive nowadays. All what they want is yay yay fire. Cesar Sampson was hated too. France was a dark horse for a decent result.

Personal opinion and taste aside,
I actually had to laugh at this one. Tom Leeb ain't singing anything he truly feels, he sings what the French delegation actually has paid for.

I agree that the revamp made the song listenable, though.

 

[Mainshow]

Today, my parents, my grandmother and I watched/listened to all 41 entries and came up with a ranking (it's a tradition of ours and actually, it was my mother who wanted to do this today ) - I thought it would be nice to share the outcome with you:

#1 Switzerland
#2 Italy
#3: The Netherlands
#4 Azerbaijan
#5 Lithuania
#6 Georgia
#7 Romania
#8 Russia
#9 Iceland
#10 Malta
#11 Finland
#12 North Macedonia
#13 Australia
#14 Slovenia
#15 United Kingdom
#16 Denmark
#17 Ukraine
#18 Israel
#19 Austria
#20 Germany
#21 Poland
#22 France
#23 Estonia
#24 Bulgaria
#25 Albania
#26 Spain

did not qualify:
Semi 1 | #11 :se #12 #13 #14 #15 #16 #17
Semi 2 | #11 :am #12 #13 #14 #15 #16 #17 #18

I really enjoyed watching this with my family because - apart from being a lovely family tradition and activity - it makes me realize some disparities between "me as a hardcore fan" and "ordinay/casual viewers of different generations", e.g. I am in love with and whilst my parents actually really enjoyed listening to and (I heavily voted them down).
Also, I guess that , , , would indeed qualify instead of some fan favourites. not making it is still unrealistic (it was part of my father's top 3 but my mother and I didn't like it that much). @RainyWoods Slovenia would have qualified

Favourite entries:
My mother:
My dad:
My grandmother:
Mine:

 

[EurovisionTim]

Imagine having eurovision rehearsals today

 

[crashworld]

Not sure if anyone follows Eurojury, but here are the results:

Overall Results

Jury Vote Results

Televote Results:

My Analysis - Top Differences between Televote & Jury vote

Top 5 Countries with Higher Televote Placing compared to Jury vote Placing:
1st. Norway (a difference of 11 places)
2nd. Greece (a difference of 9 places)
3rd. Israel (a difference of 8 places)
4th. Bulgaria/Serbia (a difference of 7 places)
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6th. Switzerland/Albania (a difference of 5 places)

Top 5 Countries with Higher Televotes Points compared to Jury vote Points:
1st. Switzerland (a difference of 113 points)
2nd. Bulgaria (a difference of 86 points)
3rd. Norway (a difference of 84 points)
4th. Lithuania/Israel (a difference of 55 points)
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6th. Greece (a difference of 41 points)

Top 5 Countries with Higher Jury vote Placing compared to Televote Placing:
1st. Austria (a difference of 13 places)
2nd. The Netherlands/United Kingdom (a difference of 9 places)
3rd. Sweden/Romania/Denmark (a difference of 7 places)
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7th. France (a difference of 5 places)

Top 5 Countries with Higher Jury vote Points compared to Televote Points:
1st. Sweden (a difference of 153 points)
2nd. Romania (a difference of 100 points)
3rd. Iceland (a difference of 72 points)
4th. Russia/Austria (a difference of 62 points)
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6th. The Netherlands (a difference of 57 points)

 

[Lindon]

That seems to me to be the most realistic result I've seen so far, and not the ( ) one that was done here.

 

[crashworld]

That seems to me to be the most realistic result I've seen so far, and not the ( ) one that was done here.

How is this more realistic that the rest of the fan editions, may I ask?

Songs like Russia and Iceland did better in the jury votes.
Songs like Switzerland and Norway did better in the televotes.
They have Latvia, Serbia and Armenia all qualified to the Grand Final, which is highly unlikely to happen in the actual contest.

The only realistic part of this result is Sweden getting overrated (yet again) in the jury result.
Sending the most beige, basic and uninteresting song (by Sweden's standards) to almost win the jury vote (lost by only 4 points).

 

[Swedenvision]

Tonight SVT:s Eurovision Week offically begins with the show "Inför Eurovision".

Today they will view all the 41 countries and the tv-viewers will vote for their favourites in the official Melodifestivalen-app, 10 countries from each semi will qualify to the final on thursday. Big 5 + Netherlands are already in the final.

As for the voting it will be in two rounds and you can vote 5 times for each song in both of the rounds.
The 1st voting round started already on monday so it has been possible to listen to all the songs and pre-vote in the app since then, and tonight during the show the 2nd round will begin.

The show will begin 21.00 on SVT1 and SVT Play.

The final "Sveriges 12a" will be on thursday 14/5 with Sarah Dawn Finer as host, 26 songs will "compete" for the win.
Tv-viewers will vote again togther with a jury of artists (Dotter will be head of jury) they decide which country will get Swedens points.
It will not be possible to vote for Sweden so The Mamas will not compete but they will perform live in the show.

 

[crashworld]

Here is the Germany's Songcheck results (minus Germany):

Alle Infos zu den ESC-Songchecks 2020

Trotz ESC-Absage haben wir unsere Songchecks mit euch zelebriert. Nach vier spannenden Shows stehen die Sieger fest: Daði og Gagnamagnið aus Island mit "Think About Things".

www.eurovision.de

Looks pretty good to me.

And you can watch the German's version of their own ESC, showing the 41 entries and 10 finalists (minus Germany) will advance to the final where they compete for the win.

Alle Infos zu den ESC-Songchecks 2020

Trotz ESC-Absage haben wir unsere Songchecks mit euch zelebriert. Nach vier spannenden Shows stehen die Sieger fest: Daði og Gagnamagnið aus Island mit "Think About Things".

www.eurovision.de

 

[marty]

Here is the Germany's Songcheck results (minus Germany):

Alle Infos zu den ESC-Songchecks 2020

Trotz ESC-Absage haben wir unsere Songchecks mit euch zelebriert. Nach vier spannenden Shows stehen die Sieger fest: Daði og Gagnamagnið aus Island mit "Think About Things".

www.eurovision.de

Looks pretty good to me.

And you can watch the German's version of their own ESC, showing the 41 entries and 10 finalists (minus Germany) will advance to the final where they compete for the win.

Alle Infos zu den ESC-Songchecks 2020

Trotz ESC-Absage haben wir unsere Songchecks mit euch zelebriert. Nach vier spannenden Shows stehen die Sieger fest: Daði og Gagnamagnið aus Island mit "Think About Things".

www.eurovision.de

this show is very very boring and technically a desaster.

 

[Swedenvision]

So SVT had it's first show tonight and have recived a lot of criticism from the viewers and in media.

The reson is because they added so called "sofa-experts" (a few Swedish celebrites and some kids sitting in a sofa and made comments on each song).
The problem is they talked during the songs so you could barley hear anything, almost like an reaction video...

I understand SVT wanted to do something different, but they could at least talked after the songs!

I'm a bit dissapointed but hopefully the "final" on thursday will be better.
Apperently then we will at least hear the full songs of those who have qualified and most importanly no comments during the songs.

 

[crashworld]

So SVT had it's first show tonight and have recived a lot of criticism from the viewers and in media.

The reson is because they added so called "sofa-experts" (a few Swedish celebrites and some kids sitting in a sofa and made comments on each song).
The problem is they talked during the songs so you could barley hear anything, almost like an reaction video...

I understand SVT wanted to do something different, but they could at least talked after the songs!

I'm a bit dissapointed but hopefully the "final" on thursday will be better.
Apperently then we will at least hear the full songs of those who have qualified and most importanly no comments during the songs.

Wow! There are also some issues/complaints on the German's version tonight.

 

[NikolaiMoller]

So SVT had it's first show tonight and have recived a lot of criticism from the viewers and in media.

The reson is because they added so called "sofa-experts" (a few Swedish celebrites and some kids sitting in a sofa and made comments on each song).
The problem is they talked during the songs so you could barley hear anything, almost like an reaction video...

I understand SVT wanted to do something different, but they could at least talked after the songs!

I'm a bit dissapointed but hopefully the "final" on thursday will be better.
Apperently then we will at least hear the full songs of those who have qualified and most importanly no comments during the songs.

I watched it with my family tonight, and we were also a bit dissapointed about the talking. We expected an expert panel to talk about the songs AFTER they were played.

We hope for a better show on Thursday

 

[crashworld]

Can't believe Germany and Sweden which I believe are one of the better broadcasters in the EBU can't get their act together for their own version of the contest. I guess the coronavirus has affected many people's way of doing things.

LOL at the first semi of the Swedish's "jury panel" results, these are the top 5.
1. Iceland
2. Russia
3. Malta
4. Austria
5. France

 

[Swedenvision]

Can't believe Germany and Sweden which I believe are one of the better broadcasters in the EBU can't get their act together for their own version of the contest. I guess the coronavirus has affected many people's way of doing things.

LOL at the first semi of the Swedish's "jury panel" results, these are the top 5.
1. Iceland
2. Russia
3. Malta
4. Austria
5. France

I want to clearify that top 5 is not from the juries only the what the "sofa-experts" thought.
The real jury will vote togheter with the tv-viewers in the final on thursday, the jury will have Dotter, Charlotte Perrelli, Eric Saade, Fredrik Kempe and Lina Hedlund as members.

But I agree that top 5 was a joke, however the real one will be different.

 

[mauve]

From what I read, I seem to be lucky that I didn't have the time to see it.

 

[crashworld]

I want to clearify that top 5 is not from the juries only the what the "sofa-experts" thought.
The real jury will vote togheter with the tv-viewers in the final on thursday, the jury will have Dotter, Charlotte Perrelli, Eric Saade, Fredrik Kempe and Lina Hedlund as members.

But I agree that top 5 was a joke, however the real one will be different.

Thanks for clarifying. Upon reading more, it's great to know these "couch panel" does not directly impact the qualifying chances of the entries and only the public can decide which 25 entries will go into the grand final via the app.

 

[Ana Raquel]