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Please post any and all discussions regarding the contest itself, host country and city, organisation, rumours and other topics not related to any specific country's selection process.
 
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Finally.

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En los próximos 40 días se conocerán las 40 canciones que completan #ESC2020.

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Also to note, they're having talks with Morrocco for a potential return, and the current number of maximum countries the EBU would accept is 44 (even though the official rules actually says, or used to say, 46)
 
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I didn't manage to buy ticket for any show! :(
The end of March, the third wave.. xpray
Last year I bought the ticket fort the final in the 3rd wave..
I wish next year ESC is somewhere like Israel, far from center of the continent where less ppl go.. :D
Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iceland, Belarus! Or maybe Macedonia, Albania, Russia (but it will be sold also quickly), Cyprus! :lol:
 
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Citelis said:
This is the 11th year in row that Greece and Finland are in the same semi-final!
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Conspiracy of the blue and white cross flags?
 
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Mainshow said:
I've taken a look at the last 5 placings of each country in its semi final and calculated its average rank (Australia just participated in four semi finals). After that, I ranked all countries based on their average scores. I know it's not going to happen that way because the songs, artists and performances are a way more important factor but just based on the country's history, these would be the qualifiers of 2020:

SEMI 1:
#1 :se: Sweden [2,2]
#2 :au: Australia [3,0]
#3 :ua: Ukraine [4,8]
#4 :il: Israel [5,6]
#5 :ru: Russia [5,8]
#6 :no: Norway [6,0]
#7 :cy: Cyprus [6,0]
#8 :be: Belgium [6,8]
#9 :ro: Romania [7,4]
#10 :az: Azerbaijan [8,0]
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#11 :lt: Lithuania [9,6]
#12 :mt: Malta [10,2]
#13 :sl: Slovenia [10,6]
#14 :ie: Ireland[11,6]
#15 :by: Belarus [11,8]
#16 :mk: North Macedonia [12,2]
#17 :hr: Croatia [12,4]

SEMI 2:
#1 :at: Austria [7,2]
#2 :bg: Bulgaria [7,2]
#3 :cz: Czech Republic [8,0]
#4 :ee: Estonia [8,8]
#5 :rs: Serbia [9,2]
#6 :am: Armenia [9,4]
#7 :pl: Poland [9,6]
#8 :md: Moldova [10,0]
#9 :gr: Greece [10,2]
#10 :pt: Portugal [10,8]
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#11 :lv: Latvia [11,0]
#12 :dk: Denmark [11,0]
#13 :ge: Georgia [11,2]
#14 :al: Albania [11,4]
#15 :ch: Switzerland [12,8]
#16 :is: Iceland [13,2]
#17 :fi: Finland [14,0]
#18 :sm: San Marino [14,2]

Based on the "ranking" history, one can see that Semi 1 isn't really that "open". The gap between #10 :az:, the last qualifier and #11 :lt: is 1,6 whilst the gap between the last qualifier and the first non-qualifier in Semi 2 is VERY narrow: 0,2.

Also, it seems that semi 1 is full of sharks and power houses. The first eight countries (Sweden to Belgium) have a better average than the winner of Semi 2 (:at:). Semi 2 has got the four least successful Eurovision countries in recent years: :ch:, :is:, :fi: and :sm:.

However, one can see that Semi 2 is way more competitive. The difference between #1 :at: and #10 :pt: is only 3 whilst the difference in Semi 1 is quite high: 5,8.

That list is also quite revealing, imo. It shows that the days of Azerbaijan as a clear qualifier are long gone. Same applies to Greece whilst I really think that :at: and :cz: and :ee: got a very good draw.

However, that list got its flaws as well: I don't think that neither Iceland, Denmark nor Finland will be absent from the Grand Final but the ranking also reveals that they are no Sweden or Norway and really need to come up with a strong entry to benifit from their draw.
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I havent commented yet on the semifinal allocation but this is what I feel like is the most fair and balanced outcome and a hint for a new approach for the future.

Just put the 19 most successful countries and 19 least successful countries in one semi and see how it plays it. However, that would doom :at:, which would float with first group but has a sketchy record. So maybe, let's not do it :D
 
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I am so happy I get to vote for :pt: my beloved country. I will seek retributrion and vengeance for Osiris....
 
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Vidbir. Those who haven't revealed their songs.

Semi #1:

  • Gio hasn't published his new version yet.
  • Katya Chilly
  • Krutь

Semi #2:
  • Moonzoo feat. F.M.F. Sure
  • Khayat (release date on Tuesday)

There's a big chance that we will hear all of them until Wednesday ;)
 
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AlekS said:
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Vidbir. Those who haven't revealed their songs.

Semi #1:

  • Gio hasn't published his new version yet.
  • Katya Chilly
  • Krutь

Semi #2:
  • Moonzoo feat. F.M.F. Sure
  • Khayat (release date on Tuesday)

There's a big chance that we will hear all of them until Wednesday ;)
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Ahh good. I'll wait until they are all out then. Gives me some time at least....
 
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28 is the true one

Aside of that ERT will rumouredly announce their performer today/tomorrow.
 
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