Eurovision 2018 News!

[Leydan]

I like a good LED Screen so I am sad this year doesn't have one. I think it adds so much to a stage, the previous stages without any form of LED screen i've found to me quite meh tbh, however I really like the look of this stage. Hopefully it will live up to the pictures.

 

[anto475]

Cannot wait for delegations to bring their own LED screens

Oh God that always looks awful, nul points to anyone that does that

 

[FilipFromSweden]

When was the last time there was no LED and the delegations brought it? Azerbaijan 2010?

 

[A-lister]

I would say the only thing missing from that is just LED-screens

Problem is that LED-screens add so many dimensions, wheres a stage that is only relying on the... well... stage is just that... the stage... there's just so much you can do with it... sure they can always swift colors, but then again Oslo 2010 was probably the most boring stage in modern ESC era... this one looks more promising though.

 

[anto475]

When was the last time there was no LED and the delegations brought it? Azerbaijan 2010?

Probably. But even Ukraine 2012, UK 2011, any act like that with extra screens on stage just looks horrendous. If your song can't stand on its own without a video wall behind you then it doesn't say a lot about your song.

Problem is that LED-screens add so many dimensions, wheres a stage that is only relying on the... well... stage is just that... the stage... there's just so much you can do with it... sure they can always swift colors, but then again Oslo 2010 was probably the most boring stages in modern ESC era... this one looks more promising though.

While I disagree that the Oslo stage was boring, let's not forget that it is a song contest. Visuals look nice but they shouldn't be the main focus of every performance.

 

[A-lister]

While I disagree that the Oslo stage was boring, let's not forget that it is a song contest. Visuals look nice but they shouldn't be the main focus of every performance.

I agree, but it depends on if you see the addition of LED-backdrops only as a distraction, or as an actual addition to give even more flavor to the performance (I see it as part of a whole performance piece which includes not just the song but the overall presentation of it including choreography and visuals).

ESC lately has this "Idol/The Voice" flu (alot thanks to the juries) that thinks that just standing in one spot singing "conventionally good" is good enough and the actual song aswell as the performance is secondary as long as the "vocals" are there. As a viewer though, I want to be entertained, I want performances fit for the entries though (sometimes standing in one spot with no effects is the most efficient and fitting choice for a song, sometimes it's not, it depends).

I do agree though that backdrops should be used when they fit and as additions, not distractions, however with the "less is more"-mentality, you kind of give no other options to those entries that would fit with a more "grand" performance.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Probably. But even Ukraine 2012, UK 2011, any act like that with extra screens on stage just looks horrendous. If your song can't stand on its own without a video wall behind you then it doesn't say a lot about your song.

 

[TheAlexer]

I think it's just selfish from portugal to squeeze everyone into the "Music is not fireworks" mentality. Yeah, it worked for their song but they seem to forget other genres.

If Eurovision was only about the song, then the competition could be held on radio.

Seriously, imagine Jamala without the glowing tree, Måns without his LED-choreography, Conchita without the burning wings.
Imagine the 2014 stage looking like this throughout the whole competition

Every performance needs to look as good as "Undo" for me to like it.

 

[Gabe]

We need not worry. Don't forget what happened last time there weren't LED screens:

 

[A-lister]

We need not worry. Don't forget what happened last time there weren't LED screens:

You mean everyone that is not going for the "less-is-more" approach need to bring their own "giant" to the stage?

 

[Gabe]

You mean everyone that is not going for the "less-is-more" approach need to bring their own "giant" to the stage?

Yes. The EBU should change the rules so that every act is mandated to have at least 1 giant.

 

[A-lister]

Yes. The EBU should change the rules so that every act is mandated to have at least 1 giant.

 

[aef]

I wonder why nobody has yet pointed out the consistent concept between the stage and their goal "less is more" (as Salvador said after his victory)....

No LED Screen means no annoying facial backgrounds, no pointless media player background, etc. - and hopefully more concentration on the song and the performance itself! Just as Salvador wished for...

 

[anto475]

Thank you for proving my point, If your song can't stand on its own without a video wall behind you then it doesn't say a lot about your song.

 

[Ezio]

I totally love the stage. For me Oslo 2010 is still gold, but Lisbon 2018 already looks like platinum. #adore

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Thank you for proving my point, If your song can't stand on its own without a video wall behind you then it doesn't say a lot about your song.

That quote makes no sense

 

[Realest]

Only because Mans had the best show it doesnt mean that he also didnt have the best song,

 

[aef]

I totally love the stage. For me Oslo 2010 is still gold, but Lisbon 2018 already looks like platinum. #adore

Oslo 2010 is gold? Hm don't know what to think about that... In my opinion it's the most lacklustre stage from recent years...

I don't really care about the missing LED screen but the 2018 one doesn't scream creativity to me neither... It totally fells like elements we've already seen in previous editions were pieced together! :?

 

[A-lister]

I wonder why nobody has yet pointed out the consistent concept between the stage and their goal "less is more" (as Salvador said after his victory)....

No LED Screen means no annoying facial backgrounds, no pointless media player background, etc. - and hopefully more concentration on the song and the performance itself! Just as Salvador wished for...

So all songs have to be like Salvador's too? Great "diversity" there... I'm awaiting another sleeping pill next May then... maybe we should just make it a radio show then?, certainly cheaper as there will only be room for ballads anyways and everything will be stream-lined like in a North Korean factory...

As written previously, if you want a diverse show that is also entertaining, you need to leave room for different way of presenting entries, one can see LED-screens as only distractions, but it depends on how and when (if) they are used. Sometimes they fit and add more dimensions to the performances, sometimes they don't fit and look like distractions... but it's a very conservative and backwards way to see them "just as evil" and also this idea of "fast-food"-music (as if we can't have some fun and entertainment in our lives aswell) certainly isn't helping either... ESC is certainly loosing alot of its entertainment value lately (and no I don't refer to silly joke entries here, don't get me wrong), it's just the show is simply turning very boring and standardized lately.

 

[aef]

So all songs have to be like Salvador's too? Great "diversity" there... I'm awaiting another sleeping pill next May then... maybe we should just make it a radio show then?, certainly cheaper as there will only be room for ballads anyways and everything will be stream-lined like in a North Korean factory...

As written previously, if you want a diverse show that is also entertaining, you need to leave room for different way of presenting entries, one can see LED-screens as only distractions, but it depends on how and when (if) they are used. Sometimes they fit and add more dimensions to the performances, sometimes they don't fit and look like distractions... but it's a very conservative and backwards way to see them "just as evil" and also this idea of "fast-food"-music (as if we can't have some fun and entertainment in our lives aswell) certainly isn't helping either... ESC is certainly loosing alot of its entertainment value lately (and no I don't refer to silly joke entries here, don't get me wrong), it's just the show is simply turning very boring and standardized lately.

I didn't say whether I like the concept or not. In fact I don't like the stage, to me its really unoriginal. And yes, it's also a show and not just a music competition so LED presentation can be one element of staging. I just said that I don't kneed pointless visuals as we head enough this year...