ESC United - Rehearsal and Live Show discussion megathread

[Sean]

It's time for the rehearsals to finally get underway for Eurovision 2024 at Malmö Arena! 37 countries will begin their preparations for this year's contest today, with over two weeks of coverage to come from the ESC United team on the ground!

The schedule for rehearsals is below (thank you Eurovisionworld! All times in CEST);

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You can check out Matt's pre-rehearsal live stream below in case you missed it;

DAY ONE

Eurovision 2024 Rehearsals - Day 1 Round-Up Live Stream

Join Matt and his team as they discuss the rehearsals of the day and answer your questions. The first dress rehearsal is closed to the press so we'll be here...

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[Ajeje Brazorf]

Is someone getting fired in RAI right now...

Absolutely not. They actually followed the Italian law for once, which, for clarity, implies the results of a public voting should never be hidden.

Sanremo various times had this kind of problems, expecially in the '80s and '90s, when there were investigations about the voting system. They avoided the problem in Sanremo by cutting the elimination system, so they can give provisional rankings even in the evenings before the fifth without sharing the percentages. Probably RAI had the same problems with Eurovision, and were solicited to share the percentages by the authorities.

 

[Gordon_Shumway]

Pardon me if this is a dumb question, but I ask it anyway: Even if these "leaked" televote results are legit, why would the results from one single country indicate who has good chances to win the whole contest?

 

[Storm]

Absolutely not. They actually followed the Italian law for once, which, for clarity, implies the results of a public voting should never be hidden.

It might be Italian law but I'm pretty sure there must be some EBU Eurovision contract disallowing that. So the least you'd expect is some sort of fine for RAI? If it's legit of course.

 

[GermanBango]

Pardon me if this is a dumb question, but I ask it anyway: Even if these "leaked" televote results are legit, why would the results from one single country indicate who has good chances to win the whole contest?

It's not just a regular lead. It's a lead of more than 30 percent. In a country that is not known for heavily voting for Israel. Not even Ukraine pulled that off in 2022.

 

[randajad]

Portugal? Georgia? Balkan?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1771660075096006854

not sure about Georgia, but Portugal 200% Balkan

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

Scenario: Israel wins. EBU refuses to let the contest be held in Israel for security reasons. EBU issues an ultimatum that Israel must co-host on Big 5 soil, and Israel agrees. Contest is held in France or Germany and we lose circa 10 participating countries (although not as many as we would if contest held in Israel)

 

[Looren]

Pardon me if this is a dumb question, but I ask it anyway: Even if these "leaked" televote results are legit, why would the results from one single country indicate who has good chances to win the whole contest?

It's because of how high the score is and the context

 

[Uto]

I think real results would be way different as a data scientist. Especially 2nd to 6th place so close is bull shit. This was made to shock.

Well spotted. You convinced me.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

If Israel wins it's going to be catastrophic to the health of the contest.

If I was the EBU I'd be shitting bricks right now.

 

[soulm8]

Pardon me if this is a dumb question, but I ask it anyway: Even if these "leaked" televote results are legit, why would the results from one single country indicate who has good chances to win the whole contest?

Cause it shows something is going on. All I read around is how the Italian people are shocked and ashamed of those “ real tele results”.

 

[nudiecrudi]

I'd like to ask: as I'm an outsider, is Italy really that pro-Israeli to begin with?

Italy has one of the most ancient Jewish community in Europe.
And Rome has one of the biggest and oldest synagogue that wasn't destroyed during the Ww2.
In this period the Jewish communities are united allover the world guys and one of the ways to express solidarity is voting.
The votes Rai showed are real and many of you think that in Italy nobody cares about ESC. I would say around 2 million are enough I think.
Remember last year Israel won RO 12 point, this year will do too

 

[MopManMoss]

not sure about Georgia, but Portugal 200% Balkan

I wish I could drink on a Thursday night too but I have work in the morning

 

[soulm8]

Italy has one of the most ancient Jewish community in Europe.
And Rome has one of the biggest and oldest synagogue that wasn't destroyed during the Ww2.
In this period the Jewish communities are united allover the world guys and one of the ways to express solidarity is voting.
The votes Rai showed are real and many of you think that in Italy nobody cares about ESC. I would say around 2 million are enough I think.
Remember last year Israel won RO 12 point, this year will do too

They wanna prove how whole Europe is supporting them, when everyone who votes for them is Jewish living in a different country. Fair point….

 

[Zeus]

Want to avoid winning?

Your solution:

 

[Wynnter]

Also whats up with these constant song changes for the live performances because San Marino definitely changed things and I think Malta as well... and I feel like a few others as well or am I just making things up at 2 am sheesh

 

[GermanBango]

Dafuq is taking those EBU tards so long? We need a statement - NOW.

 

[Looren]

Dafuq is taking those EBU tards so long? We need a statement - NOW.

You're expecting a statement from the master of the ostrich ?

 

[Summersun]

I'm thinking...the way many of the eurovision fans are either boycotting the show this year or donating their voting budget to charities supporting the war victims...this situation might be our own doing.

If all the protesters opt to not vote, all that's left are those who might end up voting for Israel. They might genuinely like the song, or do it to show support, but those voted add up. I'd also say, even without any bigger controversies in the background, Israel's song this year is very traditionally Eurovision, and probably gets votes from the older crowd who like easy ballads instead of, say, Ireland's song. The reality of any voting is that boycotting the voting is the worst kind of protest, because it only increases the chances of the unwanted candidate to succeed. We never see how many individual votes the songs get, but if the numbers are significantly smaller than previously, it is because the boycott worked. The only way to stop Israel from winning is to recruit everyone who still loves eurovision to vote someone else. And that just sucks.

 

[njdevils94]

Being conspiratorial, maybe someone working in RAI was being mischievous by leaking...maybe they wanted to warn voters for Saturday?

RAI are very careless in general. At least twice Italian tv has accidentally revealed the Sanremo percentages before the full votes

 

[AlekS]

Dafuq is taking those EBU tards so long? We need a statement - NOW.

You're gonna wait forever, lol.