In the past ten years, they have sent five songs in their own language as opposed to three in English, so I can't see your point there. And they scored well when singing in Bosnian.
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In the past ten years, they have sent five songs in their own language as opposed to three in English, so I can't see your point there. And they scored well when singing in Bosnian.
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No, I think you're wrong there. Language with it's rhythms actually guides the kind of melodies and sounds in a song. I don't think you understand this at all. The problem tends to be people's prejudice against music in another language, which is actually unnecessary but is still widely seen.
It would have helped if broadcasters were told they must show subtitles for songs not in their native language or English (assuming most can't speak English in a country).
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Nope, I have a pretty good understanding of what I posted. You are confusing voice with language. Rhythm and melodies are about composition and arrangement, not what language the lyrics are in. And how does the existance of instrumental music fit into your theory?
Last year was great music-wise IMO but the lack of linguistic diversity was a big minus for me. This year is even worse 
how's that possible? I don't want this trend to become any stronger 
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I wanted the 60th anniversary to be a spectacular year but overuse of English + generally crappy songs are ruining the whole thing
Europe has so many languages and they're all so gorgeous in the ears
how's that possible? I don't want this trend to become any stronger 1 I wanted the 60th anniversary to be a spectacular year but overuse of English + generally crappy songs are ruining the whole thing
Europe has so many languages and they're all so gorgeous in the ears
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Listen to a cover in another language and see how the music changes, the vocal itself is obviously influenced by the language. For example the Italian language is very fluent, whereas Chinese (particular Cantonese) is very staccato. With Eurovision we are talking largely about vocal music so that point holds even at that level. I would personally argue that even instrumental music can be influenced by language as it may develop from folk music which could be sung, also music placed alongside vocals is likely done in such a way to fit in with the vocals.
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It's the impact of the juries (who are put here to hate on anything that isn't vanilla "western" in English)
I told this years ago, and here we are with the results:
No local sounding entries, only English language... so much for European diversity
This was the agenda from the get-go when EBU decided to bring the juries back (who have ALWAYS throughout history hated on anything different), and here we are some years later with the results. Alot less colorful, fun, native, authentic and diverse ESC.
Is this why you haven't been involved in the NF season so much this year?
Today I realised that all the countries taking part this year and belonging to the group of latin/romance languages will sing in their own language!
Spain in Spanish, France in French, Italy in Italian and Portugal in Portuguese (we just need Romania to sing in Romanian -and San Marino in Italian-) to complete the list. I'm glad to know that at least they keep their own languages this year
Spain in Spanish, France in French, Italy in Italian and Portugal in Portuguese (we just need Romania to sing in Romanian -and San Marino in Italian-) to complete the list. I'm glad to know that at least they keep their own languages this year
Today I realised that all the countries taking part this year and belonging to the group of latin/romance languages will sing in their own language!
Spain in Spanish, France in French, Italy in Italian and Portugal in Portuguese (we just need Romania to sing in Romanian -and San Marino in Italian-) to complete the list. I'm glad to know that at least they keep their own languages this year
Moldova in english (or at least something that seems like english)
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Today I realised that all the countries taking part this year and belonging to the group of latin/romance languages will sing in their own language!
Spain in Spanish, France in French, Italy in Italian and Portugal in Portuguese (we just need Romania to sing in Romanian -and San Marino in Italian-) to complete the list. I'm glad to know that at least they keep their own languages this year
San Marino will sing in english. 
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They keep their own languages because these languages are the most spoken ones in the world after English.Today I realised that all the countries taking part this year and belonging to the group of latin/romance languages will sing in their own language!
Spain in Spanish, France in French, Italy in Italian and Portugal in Portuguese (we just need Romania to sing in Romanian -and San Marino in Italian-) to complete the list. I'm glad to know that at least they keep their own languages this year
But anyway it's still a shame that the Slavic countries will all be singing in English: Czech Republic, Slovenia, Serbia, Belarus... with Poland and Russia very likely to join them :roll:
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It's a shame that Germany as the country with the highes population apart of Russia is the only Big 5 country that never sings in its own language xdown
I like our song this year, but basically it would be nice to have a German entry again one day
By the way I support the comeback of the language rule. There would be more interesting songs and less mainstream crap in the ESC
I like our song this year, but basically it would be nice to have a German entry again one day
By the way I support the comeback of the language rule. There would be more interesting songs and less mainstream crap in the ESC
I agree with this fully! I understand why the language rule was dropped. The 1990s was a pretty crazy decade considering the amount of English language entries that won. But a lot has happened since then and I say it's time to bring it back. At least try it for a few years and see what happens. I doubt we'd go back to Ireland and the UK winning every other edition.
I agree with Stargazer.
We are in 2015 and nowadays, the staging is something very important, way more than in the 90's. And since the Europeans are more aware of the diversity of Europe (have a look at the several exchange programs) , I think that English is not necessary THE key to success and enjoyment.
Or we can have a mix of the actual rule and the language rule:
1) at least 25% of the song must be in one of the national languages.
2) the countries have the right to use another language than their own only two times in a row. During the third year, they gotta use their national language and would be allow to use a foreign language again only next year etc....
We are in 2015 and nowadays, the staging is something very important, way more than in the 90's. And since the Europeans are more aware of the diversity of Europe (have a look at the several exchange programs) , I think that English is not necessary THE key to success and enjoyment.
Or we can have a mix of the actual rule and the language rule:
1) at least 25% of the song must be in one of the national languages.
2) the countries have the right to use another language than their own only two times in a row. During the third year, they gotta use their national language and would be allow to use a foreign language again only next year etc....
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To become a hit in Europe, you need to sing in English first. Tell me one singer known worldwide but doesn't sing in English.
Loreen wouldn't be that popular if she didn't sing in English. So why to block their career in Europe?
Personally, I don't care the language. But that fact is unignorable.
Loreen wouldn't be that popular if she didn't sing in English. So why to block their career in Europe?
Personally, I don't care the language. But that fact is unignorable.
I think it's awkward when songs mix English and other languages, so for me it should be 100% or nothing. But I agree with the first part of your post!
But Eurovision shouldn't be the hit-making machine of Europe. It's a platform absolutely, but the songs sent to Eurovision should be for the sake of the contest, not for the sake of international careers. It's a song contest first and foremost, not an artist contest.
Well I wouldn't be in favor of forcing someone to pick one of its minority languages, but it would sure be wonderful if they did do it.We should force UK to send songs in welsh and scottish gaelic too. After all UK isn't only England
The only Irish language entry in the history of the contest:
Tell me one Eurovision winner who sang in English and is known worldwide... Abba maybe? but otherwise?
Eurovision does not usually make hits, indeed Loreen did well in Europe but as far as I know, none of the winners have been able to have a real musical career outside of their country. Most people who watch the shows are just average viewers who happen to like and vote for songs because it's fun, they're not going to become fanboys and fangirls in the long term (unfortunately or not
), so why English would matter that much eventually if it does nothing to boost their career abroad? At least they can make a hit in the language they use everyday for their usual market, that would make more sense, especially for countries that aren't that anglophile in real life.
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I think we should all force SVT and all the swedes to sing in swedish
I have found one of my all time favorite Swedish singer .... and he is a awesome chef too.....
I have found one of my all time favorite Swedish singer .... and he is a awesome chef too.....