DENMARK 2011 - A Friend In London - New Tomorrow

[Schlagerman1]

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^ Agrees about all except the fact about Sweden not suffered from the old..even if our NF has modern songs..they don't really do that well I'm afraid.
But in the same time it is hard to get youngers interested..it's not only the artists we need, it is the whole concept that needs changing...even if our countries does the change, then newspapers would write "THE NEW MF/MGP SUCKS, VIEWERS STOPS WATCHING" or something similar and the change would lead to put in some old-fashioned things to make the 40 or 50+ happy.

 

[Gerly]

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would be nice if Bryan Rice try again =)

 

[Schlagerman1]

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^ well why not..he brought something modern to the contest at least and could do well with a song that is just a little better than "Breathing"!

 

[No Name]

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^ Agrees about all except the fact about Sweden not suffered from the old..even if our NF has modern songs..they don't really do that well I'm afraid.
But in the same time it is hard to get youngers interested..it's not only the artists we need, it is the whole concept that needs changing...even if our countries does the change, then newspapers would write "THE NEW MF/MGP SUCKS, VIEWERS STOPS WATCHING" or something similar and the change would lead to put in some old-fashioned things to make the 40 or 50+ happy.

It was actually my impression that Melodifestivalen succeeded in attracting younger people but seems I was wrong. Melodigrandprix (and Melodifestivalen) just needs a revival and a kick in the butt, but as long as we have shows like X-factor and Talent I don't see that happening right away. X-factor in Denmark has managed to appeal much wider than MGP has ever done. Whether you were young or old...I remember everyone was watching it. DR needs to adopt the concepts of a show like X-factor into Melodigrandprix and ESC. Melodigrandprix needs to be the thing that gathers people in front of the TV saturday night. So far DR hasn't succeeded with this although last year was a huge step in the right direction.

 

[ParadiseES]

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Naaah X Factor system is boring if you ask me...

 

[No Name]

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Naaah X Factor system is boring if you ask me...

Personally I don't even like X-factor but I think adopting some elements of the show would be great. Our current system shouldn't be changed. I prefer Melodigrandprix to be held one night (instead of semi-finals which we tried a couple of years ago) and I like the knock-out system, but some parts of the concept still needs to be changed in order to get a wider appeal across generations. I don't want Melodigrandprix to become a copy of X-factor, but there are still things to be done. X-factor has the ability to gather the nation and that is what DR should try to adopt to the show.

The "hardcore" ESC-fans (I don't consider myself to be such ) here happen to be very conservative about the show, especially about our national finals. Sometimes I even get the feeling that our national finals are bigger than actual ESC. My point is that no one should be afraid of changes as long as it is for the better.

 

[AlekS]

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I agree with X-Factor system. It's much better than conservative system which repeats every damn year. You can borrow our system. Do X-Factor thing for the semis and then host an ordinary big final. Imo, perception of the finalists will be a little bit different.
I don't think that ordinary ESC viewers (non fans) care about someone elses' NF systems so it doesn't matter for ESC, but it's important for the national show biz. No one should be afraid of changes.
We change the system every year and I can't complain, it's always fun to watch. Even if the quality sucks sometimes you get the best reward ie. scandals, controversy and more music... in other words you have ESC during the whole year and you never get tired cuz every year is different (even if some performers are the same).

 

[Schlagerman1]

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Sometimes I even get the feeling that our national finals are bigger than actual ESC. My point is that no one should be afraid of changes as long as it is for the better.

There you say the big Nordic proplem...the NF is bigger than ESC itself!
Here everyone think MF is "much" better than ESC, but that is cause SVT wants to do it that way. If we compare that to some of the eastern countries (let's say...Ukraine maybe) they see ESC much bigger, so they don't really mind how the NF will be (well after the probs Ukraine had this year..they don't mind it in a way , no offense though). I don't know if applying the X-factor/Idol elements will bring the contest better, but something is needed for us to do well again (even if Denmark found it this year..it won't help them have the same kind of music in the future I believe)

 

[AlekS]

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^ sorry but you don't know anything about our NF 2011 then. We have a big tour (20 cities) for the best 10 or 15 NF finalists, we have 10 semis (a-la reality show) and we have the final in the biggest indoor concert venue.
+ saying how we care about NFs based on 2010 situation would be unfair =/ because new NTU bosses had just 1 week to organize everything from the new page. They managed to negotiate with the 2nd and 4th most popular commercial channels. The total amount of televotes increased at least in 10 times because it was broadcasted on another channel too, in the prime time slot instead of Idol diaries. + making it popular in a country with 46 mil. citizens is a little bit harder than in a country with 9 mil. citizens where this contest has already been quite popular (how much time do we participate comapring to Sweden or Denmark?)
Judging from NF 2011 we want to make something on the middle between MF and ordinary NF.

I just don't want our NFs to turn on MF or MGP. The format is almost the same for years. You can find some differences but it's still the huge-ss NF with gadzillion participants and semis. Yep, it's more national thing in Sweden or Denmark than ESC. Here we have more sources in order to find out/see our performers anywhere else but Eurovision. We have numerous local festivals, we have a big ex-Soviet festival which is similar to Eurovision. What do you have, something which is larger or at least on the same level with MF or MGP, something that could compete with MF or MGP but not with Eurovision?
+ broadcaster's attitude for ESC + people's interest in performers from another countries.

ESC is VERY popular here in general but we didn't start making our NFs on the basis of the popular huge-ss national festival. It's like going to your competitor and saying 'hi! would you like to receive 70% of my salary?"

 

[Schlagerman1]

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^ As I wrote, I meant no offence with the post there...
But what I meant was that MF and MGP in Sweden/Norway/Denmark has an history in our countries. We've had this NF for like forever and it would cause a riot if they were taken away from the people. In Ukraine and Russia and some other easteuropean countries, you don't have the tradition and history in hosting big NFs (not counting countries like Croatia and Albania, Dora and FiK are MF-class in their countries also ).
I may have written a little wrong in my last post about you didn't care about NFs, of course you do, but what I meant is that you don't have the same name or system of your NFs like we do.

I have always liked the Ukrainian entry from 06 and onwards, so it is not that I think you suck, it is that you are the perfect example, the country Europe should look at and follow if you ask me!

 

[AlekS]

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^ We can borrow something from each other, indeed
Though, yeah, we could just start NFs in 2003 and stick to this system every year. It's our minus as well - we have really small amount of sponsorship. In fact the national budget has 0 euros every year on the NFs so the national channel has to search for sponsors and change the system.
As for your situation - they will lose a lot of money if they change the system. So the only way out is to have internal selection and MF/MGP, or change MF/MGP. Make the semis a-la reality show, host them in a different venue, host them in the studio but other main channels should broadcast it in prime time etc. There are a lot of ways. Though the final can stay the same. I think such changes can please everyone - conservative and non-conservative fans.

 

[AlekS]

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Denmark follows Sweden in record-breaking

Melodi Grand Prix 2011, the Danish national selection for the 2011 Eurovision Song Contest, starts off with a total of 663 entries submitted to the broadcaster. This is 101 songs more than last year.

Six songs will be chosen by a jury for the selection show, starting in February. They will be joined by four wildcards, invited by DR.

Some of the well-known authors who submitted their entries, include Christina Schilling (wrote the 2009 Irish entry, Et Cetera) and Claus Christensen, who was the author of the 2007 Danish entry Drama Queen, performed by DQ.

The date and host city of their national selection for Europe's favourite TV-show is still to be revealed.


http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=20233&_t=Denmark+follows+Sweden+in+record-breaking

 

[Otto]

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^ It's not a record (741 entries were submitted at DMGP 1988). And there were 682 entries in 2009 too

 

[AlekS]

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^ "then this week the Danish broadcaster, DR, revealed a similar event."

 

[Otto]

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^ "then this week the Danish broadcaster, DR, revealed a similar event."

DR's website says that it was a record xD

 

[AlekS]

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^ lol, DR doesn't know their own stats.

 

[manialf]

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New infos about the Danish National final have been revealed: Dates, venue and official reactions: http://bit.ly/bwef7p

Date: February 26
Venue Ballarup Arena in Copenhagen

 

[No Name]

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I'm happy our national final is finally going to be held in Copenhagen this time and not in Aalborg and Horsens like previous years.

Only minus is that I think the average Cph-citizen isn't that interested in DMGP. Traditionally the people living in Jutland are much more dedicated fans than the people living in the capital.

Ballerup Arena is a good choice so let's see what DR has planned this time around.

However, even though the show is going to be held in an Cph-based area I probably won't go myself. Musically DMGP isn't really my cup of tea but I'll follow it with excitement as usual in front of the TV.

 

[No Name]

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I just found out that DMGP hasn't been held on Sjælland since 2002.

Though Ballerup is rather more a suburb of Copenhagen it is nice to get DMGP back on the island.


Here are some pics of the venue:

 

[AlekS]

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^ Awesome! I wish we could hold our NF in a BIG venue, not just 4 000 capacity *dreaming*