Cheating in Eurovision voting

[AdelAdel]

Actually Poland was shamefully divided into pieces by the superpowers in the 1700s, restored by Napoleon and again occupied by the Russians (mainly) during the 1800s. Free again 1920-1939 and then de facto "occupied" by the Russians 1945-1989. So you're right in large.

No, it wasn't occupation. There were obviously Soviet armies here, but it was more or less the same as with American armies in South Korea and Japan.

if the Polish who live abroad are like AdelAdel, than you don't have to be surprised they don't support their country

Many are, in fact. That's why I don't really understand this "support your country of origin no matter what" thing.

 

[Galandar]

better listen it 3

OMG the folk tunes and the refrain of this song are very similar of that in Only Teadrops

 

[RainyWoods]

Jesus christ FallenAngel!!!! Ok bare with me as I try and slowly, carefully reply to everything you just wrote

 

[Andreea]

Now I feel a bit ashamed haha. It's embarrassing, but even in school we called the Warsaw Pact most of the time Soviet Union in colloquial speech. On the other hand we didn't talk much about the Soviet Union after all. After the end of the Second World War we jumped straight to the German reunification. At least I've learned something today, so thank you guys

Soviet Union=Warsaw Pact LOL (sorry, I couldnt imagine someone confuse Soviet Union with Warsaw Pact countries)

Don't worry, after WWII we jump also to 1989. Even now, after 24 years since the collapse of the communist regime, still not very known and understood. Teaching Communism history is a very sensitive matter and demanding task. Those 50 years were very dark.

 

[Smudy]

Jesus christ FallenAngel!!!! Ok bare with me as I try and slowly, carefully reply to everything you just wrote

Ya, seriously, that post gave me cancer SOOC

 

[FallenAngelII]

Ya, seriously, that post gave me cancer SOOC

Having to read can do that to you.

 

[Venage]

Soviet Union=Warsaw Pact LOL

Don't worry, after WWII we jump also to 1989. Even now, after 24 years since the collapse of the communist regime, still not very known and understood. Teaching Communism history is a very sensitive matter and demanding task. Those 50 years were very dark.

That's true, it's important but it isn't really taught here. We learned more about France, Britain and America than the Warsaw Pact

 

[Jeansy]

Both pro-governmental and opposition media in Azerbaijan consider this video as provocative anti-PR.


4. One person can send only 20 sms or so which makes some 20 EUR in average. What is a sense to pay him/her a lot of money to vote for your country when you can simply buy several sim cards and accomplish that business yourself? IMO the other way sounds too illogigal, doesn't it?

Except you can't vote for your self you'd have to send 1000's of people to other countries to buy sim cards which may or may not work in their phones so you'd have to buy new phones which would cost
considerably more than just buying votes.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Because if Aftonbladet or Expressen said it, it must be true!
I don't think they made up that article and in fact, I did think about it before I saw it, I think Azerbaijan is cheating.

 

[Andreea]

That's true, it's important but it isn't really taught here. We learned more about France, Britain and America than the Warsaw Pact

strange, considering East Germany joined the Warsaw Pact.

@all: sorry for the off topic, it wont happen.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

Having to read can do that to you.

Only problem is that almost no one has the time or even wants to read your post that must be at least 2000 words.
And don't be so rude

 

[Galandar]

Except you can't vote for your self you'd have to send 1000's of people to other countries to buy sim cards which may or may not work in their phones so you'd have to buy new phones which would cost
considerably more than just buying votes.

That still sounds insane. That is a very expensive and risky issue if you pay those thousands of people to vote for your country and you do not even try to hide anything as it is shown in that video which still dos not prove anything.

 

[PashonFrut]

Only problem is that almost no one has the time or even wants to read your post that must be at least 2000 words

I quite enjoyed reading it actually

 

[LalehForWD]

Former European communist countries which were not part of the USSR don't share any special relationship like for example USSR, Scandinavia or the Balkans. This explains the lack of general support in Eurovision.

Actually, I think you (should) have very strong ties to Scandinavia/Nordic/Baltic regions in historic and cultural matters. Many Polish people live in Sweden and even more have somehow a connection here. You must have strong ties to Belarus and Ukraine on one part and Czech/Slovakia on the other. Then of course your ties to Germany.

 

[Andreea]

That still sounds insane. That is a very expensive and risky issue if you pay those thousands of people to vote for your country and you do not even try to hide anything as it is shown in that video which still dos not prove anything.

I agree with you, but I think those who want to robb they will do it. Nobody guarantees us the televoting result.

 

[FallenAngelII]

Only problem is that almost no one has the time or even wants to read your post that must be at least 2000 words.
And don't be so rude

Funny how you're telling me not to be rude when my allegedly rude remark was in response to someone saying a post of mine gave them cancer.

 

[Venage]

strange, considering East Germany joined the Warsaw Pact.

@all: sorry for the off topic, it wont happen.

I think so too. We didn't even talk about East Germany at all. It was more or less like:"That's the territory of East Germany, it was communist and it's leader Erick Honecker was evil. But in 1989 there were some protests which led to the German reunification." That's basically East German history in West German schools

 

[Verjamem]

Actually, I think you (should) have very strong ties to Scandinavia/Nordic/Baltic regions in historic and cultural matters. Many Polish people live in Sweden and even more have somehow a connection here. You must have strong ties to Belarus and Ukraine on one part and Czech/Slovakia on the other. Then of course your ties to Germany.

We have large diasporas across the Europe, but they also don't give a s*** about contest.

 

[LalehForWD]

I think so too. We didn't even talk about East Germany at all. It was more or less like:"That's the territory of East Germany, it was communist and it's leader Erick Honecker was evil. But in 1989 there were some protests which led to the German reunification." That's basically East German history in West German schools

That's a shame because some things were actually better in East Germany (or so I've heard at least). For example the recycling system, some aspects of agriculture and so on.

 

[Jeansy]

That still sounds insane. That is a very expensive and risky issue if you pay those thousands of people to vote for your country and you do not even try to hide anything as it is shown in that video which still dos not prove anything.

That is very true and everybody here should remember that, what we have is an allegation which should be investigated and until proven otherwise we should assume that they are innocent.