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Austria AUSTRIA 2019 - PÆNDA - Limits

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0scar

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For me it certainly is one of the best ballads this year, if not the best. I don't see any reason why my opinion should be affected by what other fans think or the betting odds or whatever else.

Of course it can be one of the best ballads this year for you. No opinion should be affected by what other fans think. Opinions are subjective and should be respected by anyone.

But it wasn't stated as an opinion, but stated as a fact. That's something different and considering how things are at the moment for Austria, Limits can't objectively be seen as 'by far the best ballad of this year'.
 

Lindon

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I did not know that we have to label our opinions here separately.
 

Soul

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It should be obvious that "xy is the best song/ballad/..." will never be a fact. There are no objective guidelines what makes a ballad "good", so it's of course just an opinion. Just like with phrases such as "best winner ever" it describes the heavily subjective, maybe even biased, view of the poster.
 

Sammy

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Of course it can be one of the best ballads this year for you. No opinion should be affected by what other fans think. Opinions are subjective and should be respected by anyone.

But it wasn't stated as an opinion, but stated as a fact. That's something different and considering how things are at the moment for Austria, Limits can't objectively be seen as 'by far the best ballad of this year'.

Very true - but for any ballad. Because as you rightly say - opinions must not be stated as facts. But in the kingdom of taste, it is difficult to find a valid scale that would measure "objectively" what would be the best ballad/uptempo/.... song. I appreciate much more if someone can give arguments why he/she thinks that for him/her this or that song is the best one. Arguments that go beyond the "oh that gives me goosebumps" or "oh this is so modern/different/...." Of course this would need more time to write (and to read) and we (myself included) often don't take this time - unfortunately.

So I would definitely not say that it's the best song for me this year. The best ballad... haven't thought about that too intensively but here are two arguments why I came to like our entry quite a lot:

First of all - it's a 100% Paenda's own work and expression. You can't get more authentic writing / composing AND singing your song. This is what fascinates me for instance when looking to the classical singer-songwriters like Brel, Brassens or Vian in France, like Wolf Biermann or Rainhard Mey in Germany or others.

Then - looking at the lyrics - I find them quite poetic. They don't tell a simple story like so many other songs (oh, you left me - I'm so sad - why did you do this to me, who loves you still so much.... or of that kind). When reading the lyrics there are multiple scenarios, that you can imagine. That's what poetic means for me: creating images and stories in your mind instead of just putting one of them before you. At this point I'm already at the verge of subjective taste, because I can imagine that the lyrics don't do this for others and are just meaningless. But I think I made clear why I like them, even if others can't relate to it.

As for the music: I can't find an explanation why I like the melody - perhaps I'll have one in the days ahead. For the moment: it just gives me goosebumps. xrofl.
 

pastablanche

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lmfao what I said was just a shady remark to the poster, it wasn't supposed to spawn all this discussion. I said it because let's be real, the song isn't liked by many fans, so this person's nationality and opinion almost definitely aren't a coincidence.
 

marty

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of course this was just my opinion. how could "best ballad" ever be seen as a fact?
very funny to follow the discussion…. i think we all are bored and cant wait until the rehearsals will start…. xhug
 

Iker

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I think it is something that I should take a liking for but somewhow I don't. Instead I just find it tuneless & uneappealling.
 

marty

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I think it is something that I should take a liking for but somewhow I don't. Instead I just find it tuneless & uneappealling.

that is a progress at least. yesterday you said it is dull. :mrgreen:
 

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This song has gradually grown on me. I can see it being a powerful performance with a cool backing light effect.
 

Soul

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Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed listening to it even if I'm starting to grow tired of people asking the same question as everyone else. She does a good job at still answering them as if she heard them the first time though :d:
 

gingerale

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Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed listening to it even if I'm starting to grow tired of people asking the same question as everyone else. She does a good job at still answering them as if she heard them the first time though :d:

Same. :D

And she revealed one detail of the staging:
 

Lindon

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Just to prove that it is only a question of listening habits, a fan experiment:

 
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