94ayd
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It's still not judging the songs, so no difference for me. 
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MyHeartIsYours
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It's still not judging the songs, so no difference for me.
I vote on the whole package; song, singing, singer, effects etc and that includes the looks of the singers
. Obviously if there is a great song sung by an ugly person I will still vote for them regardless but to be a totally perfect entry for me they have to be good-lookers eg Norway 2010 
.Voting for countries isnt good...
94ayd
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Too bad he didn't have the rest of the package, besides looks...
MyHeartIsYours
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Too bad he didn't have the rest of the package, besides looks...
He did :evil: But ehh, politics, what can ya do? :twisted:
94ayd
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We'd better stop here. We've turned this poor thread in I-don't-even-know-what-anymore really... 
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Ahh, this thread has always been abused anyway!!
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... plus who'll vote for a small, Arab country, located very far away from any of the other participants...
Arab diaspora, so basically they will be atleast top.3
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^^^Well, that's true
94ayd
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Even Turkey doesn't end up in top 3 too often and there are more Turks, I'm pretty sure.
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Well Turkey more or less always ends up in top.10 atleast anyways, and I wouldn't be too sure about there being more Turks than Arabs, atleast not here.
Well point still being; expect massive diaspora voting and a contender to Turkey in that aspect
... and I'm not sure if that is what Eurovision needs more of so add that to just another reason why I'm opposed to Qatar entering
Well Turkey more or less always ends up in top.10 atleast anyways, and I wouldn't be too sure about there being more Turks than Arabs, atleast not here.
Well point still being; expect massive diaspora voting and a contender to Turkey in that aspect
... and I'm not sure if that is what Eurovision needs more of so add that to just another reason why I'm opposed to Qatar entering
MyHeartIsYours
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Turkey often does better than it would have done without the diaspora, like in 2009.
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^^^Agree!
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Honestly these are just your opinions in regards to Turkey. I might not be a die hard fan of their recent entries, but I can definitely see how they have appealed to voters much more over other songs. Of course there is no denying that they have the extra boost from their diaspora, but I don't see the juries voting them out of the top 10 the last two years either.
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Canuck
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Turkey has a way of being able to send really well known domestic artists, much like Sweden (moreso than most other countries in ESC)... their star power really helps them on stage.
goktengri
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That's the thing I hate most about choosing system, I would like to see young or new singers/bands to represent us :/ Eurovision is not only winning, but introducing artists in your country, not sending best.
Canuck
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Disagree. I find Eurovision as a contest to showcase your talent. You're showing the entire continent "Hey, this is who we've got right now, are you impressed?"
nikolay_BG
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Talking about diasporas, I think most of the arabs vote for Turkey now. Bringing an arab country to the contest will brake the so big diaspora voting for Turkey. At least that`s what I think.
goktengri
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I don't think most of them WATCH this contest. You can't tell me we have a big arab diaspora ! Also we are not the ONLY COUNTRY which damages the contest with political votes.
You can bring many arab countries, It is not enough to break diaspora, Cause we don't get anything except maybe some trashy little votes from THEM !
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MyHeartIsYours
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Arab people don't just live in Arab countries - anyone from a Western European country can tell you that!!
Turkey does have one of the biggest diasporas yes, but I don't think that should be dealt with by adding another diaspora country - that'd just make the political/diaspora voting problem worse.
Turkey does have one of the biggest diasporas yes, but I don't think that should be dealt with by adding another diaspora country - that'd just make the political/diaspora voting problem worse.
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goktengri
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Arabs don't influence this contest as much as Greek Cypriots. I can accept that we have a big Turkish diaspora, but you MUST prove me that we have a big ARAB diaspora !
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