Russia RUSSIA 2018 - Yulia Samoylova - I Won't Break
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not the topic of the Russian song
but about the language of the song, any song..
not the topic of the Russian song
but about the language of the song, any song..
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I'm still surprised that people who label themselves "Eurovision fans" doesn't grasp the concept of having different languages represented in the contest instead of having a mono-contest where only one language and certain styles are represented instead of countries showcasing themselves to Europe
Surely the song is important, but language is part of the song and different languages have different characteristics that adds to the overall song, and in this case we have a singer who doesn't understand English, let alone is able to speak (sing it), so please tell me how is it benefiting her and the Russian entry to stick to English then? Why is making a fool of yourself something that would benefit the entry? How will it benefit the entry if she will have to spend half of the performance to think about her pronunciation instead of focus solely on the performance and singing?
Can someone explain, because I don't get it, why it's suddenly BAD to have an open mind and want to hear different languages in the contest? Isn't this what Eurovision should be all about? To showcase our countries, not hide where we from?
I'm still surprised that people who label themselves "Eurovision fans" doesn't grasp the concept of having different languages represented in the contest instead of having a mono-contest where only one language and certain styles are represented instead of countries showcasing themselves to Europe
Surely the song is important, but language is part of the song and different languages have different characteristics that adds to the overall song, and in this case we have a singer who doesn't understand English, let alone is able to speak (sing it), so please tell me how is it benefiting her and the Russian entry to stick to English then? Why is making a fool of yourself something that would benefit the entry? How will it benefit the entry if she will have to spend half of the performance to think about her pronunciation instead of focus solely on the performance and singing?
Can someone explain, because I don't get it, why it's suddenly BAD to have an open mind and want to hear different languages in the contest? Isn't this what Eurovision should be all about? To showcase our countries, not hide where we from?
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Re: RUSSIA 2018 - Yulia Samoylova
A good song will turn crap if the singer is unable to perform it well (focusing on a language you don't understand or can pronounce is not going to help the overall impression of the song). She isn't even a good singer, to add the language bit is just making it worse because she should put all her focus on singing.
Last year's entry was surely crap, but the extreme bad English only added to the mess.
A good song will turn crap if the singer is unable to perform it well (focusing on a language you don't understand or can pronounce is not going to help the overall impression of the song). She isn't even a good singer, to add the language bit is just making it worse because she should put all her focus on singing.
Last year's entry was surely crap, but the extreme bad English only added to the mess.
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This! If they want to be boring and sing in English, be my guest... but to send a girl whose English is so poor that it hurts the ears and the songs she's singing is just cruel...
This! If they want to be boring and sing in English, be my guest... but to send a girl whose English is so poor that it hurts the ears and the songs she's singing is just cruel...
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Maybe I'm too cruel but I think it's obvious they're making her sing in English because they want the lyrics to be empathetic like last year. A girl in a wheelchair singing about the meaning of life.
Julia is lovely and I want her song to be a strong one. Every time I see her videos I wanna go hug her! I even loved Flame is Burning because she has charisma
Maybe I'm too cruel but I think it's obvious they're making her sing in English because they want the lyrics to be empathetic like last year. A girl in a wheelchair singing about the meaning of life.
Julia is lovely and I want her song to be a strong one. Every time I see her videos I wanna go hug her! I even loved Flame is Burning because she has charisma
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You're not cruel, however her team is cruel for making her sing in English... it's hard to be "empathetic" when you can barely understand what she sings anyways
I smell another bottom entry in my ranking... they did everything wrong so far (choice of singer, choice of language, choice of songwriter/producer)...
You're not cruel, however her team is cruel for making her sing in English... it's hard to be "empathetic" when you can barely understand what she sings anyways
I smell another bottom entry in my ranking... they did everything wrong so far (choice of singer, choice of language, choice of songwriter/producer)...
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This shouldn't be forced, the diversity for the sake of diversity will not function. The reality is that the English language is dominating.
This shouldn't be forced, the diversity for the sake of diversity will not function. The reality is that the English language is dominating.
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If anything is "forced" is when artists are singing in a language they rarely sing in normally and in particular when they can barely pronounce it and when countries are sending entries particularly customized for ESC and not for the act singing it or with a connection to the country... now that's forced if anything
So please, give a good reason why Yulia (who doesn't know English) should make a fool out of herself and sing in a language she doesn't know other than "English language is dominating" I don't find it a valid reason in this particular case.
If anything is "forced" is when artists are singing in a language they rarely sing in normally and in particular when they can barely pronounce it and when countries are sending entries particularly customized for ESC and not for the act singing it or with a connection to the country... now that's forced if anything
So please, give a good reason why Yulia (who doesn't know English) should make a fool out of herself and sing in a language she doesn't know other than "English language is dominating"
I don't find it a valid reason in this particular case.
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Freedom of choice. Artists are free to choose. Even if Yulia is not a strong singer and she doesn't know English well, she can choose to sing in English.
Freedom of choice. Artists are free to choose. Even if Yulia is not a strong singer and she doesn't know English well, she can choose to sing in English.
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I can understand that countries sometimes sing on different language, but insist on one (English) from one year to another for me is classical e form of primitivism and petty-bourgeoisism. And champions in that are Russia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Denmark etc. BTW I am really happy that this year my country will sing in our Serbian language.
I can understand that countries sometimes sing on different language, but insist on one (English) from one year to another for me is classical e form of primitivism and petty-bourgeoisism. And champions in that are Russia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Denmark etc. BTW I am really happy that this year my country will sing in our Serbian language.
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Hmm...still not word from Russia. Wonder what's happening?
Hmm...still not word from Russia. Wonder what's happening?
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According with the lastest reports, Yulia's ESC 2018 song could be relased on March 4 or 11 as well!
According with the lastest reports, Yulia's ESC 2018 song could be relased on March 4 or 11 as well!
