ROMANIA 2013 - Cezar - It's my life
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Smudy
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Whoa, we shouldn't already judge with 38 other split results to go.
Jeansy
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Whoa, we shouldn't already judge with 38 other split results to go.
That is very true. we will have to wait and see.
VikingTiger
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OMG - I just realized that more than 25 % of the votes to Romania this year came from scandinavian countries (Ic/No/Sw)....
Of course, are already few years from when I feel Scandinavian when is Eurovision time. Countries who are far away from us like Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary or Ukraine never vote us. But our neighbours from Norway, Iceland or Sweden are doing their job.
VikingTiger
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Of course, are already few years from when I feel Scandinavian when is Eurovision time. Countries who are far away from us like Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary or Ukraine never vote us. But our neighbours from Norway, Iceland or Sweden are doing their job.
Especially in 2010 - Romania did excellent with the scandinavian countries....
Exactlly, Romania do excellent with Scandinavia when we deserve. We expect the same from our neighbours, too. Only when we deserve. When we deseve? For sure in 2010 we deserved with 3rd place and no points from neighbours.
Eurovisionified
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It's my points and i'll give you twelve foreveeeer 
It also proved that juries intentionally completely dismissed the Romanian entry to counter-part the effect of televoting. If until now we were positively discriminated because of the diaspora, now we are negatively discriminated by the juries from the countries that have Romanian diaspora. If the juries weren't pissed by the diaspora voting, I'm sure the Italian jury at least would have fairly given Romania some high points.
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It's funny how the Eurovision Site from Spain, says that Romania didn't qualify in the final! THAT IS ABSURD! Romania doesn't appear in the jury votes or the televoting. Instead Austria, Israel and Cyprus do. Check this out, you'll be amazed. WTF?!!
eurovision-spain.com | Dinamarca gana el <i>Eurosondeo 2013</i> gracias al apoyo de los lectores mientras que Espaa es dcima
eurovision-spain.com | Dinamarca gana el <i>Eurosondeo 2013</i> gracias al apoyo de los lectores mientras que Espaa es dcima
ParadiseES
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We didn't do it until now and I don't see why we would start to do it now.
ParadiseES
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This is just a poll. The members of this site voted and there was a jury as well. Just take a look at the date, it's May 1st
What you didn't do? Discrimination? What about 12 points in televoting and zero in total? Many Romanians from Spain tell that they couldn't vote for Romania because the line was close. What kind of jury can put Cezar on the last place while the voice is the first thing to judge for the jury? This can be discrimination and you always tryied this, but never was possible until now. Is Eurovision more fairly when the winner of televote recieve zero points? I really don't think so. Do you?
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For everyone who is interested Emmelie wins also in Australia | ESC Webs - Latest Eurovision News
Australians put Romania in top 3
Australians put Romania in top 3
ParadiseES
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What you didn't do? Discrimination? What about 12 points in televoting and zero in total? Many Romanians from Spain tell that they couldn't vote for Romania because the line was close. What kind of jury can put Cezar on the last place while the voice is the first thing to judge for the jury? This can be discrimination and you always tryied this, but never was possible until now. Is Eurovision more fairly when the winner of televote recieve zero points? I really don't think so. Do you?
2009 -> 7 points
2010 -> 10 points
2011 -> 8 points
2012 -> 10 points
This means that at least in 2010 and 2012 the Spanish jury also gave some points to Romania, otherwise you couldn't get more than 8 points. Those years you were beated by the final winners, so I think you can't say the Spanish jury is always biased towards you.
If we'd just like to kill your points, we'd have done that every year and we didn't.
About this year voting, I don't know because I didn't vote. Let's hope a split results can clarify everything, but the results are always checked by a public notary, so I don't think there's something wrong and in that case, we'd have taken the back-up jury results.
And the voice is not the first think to judge for the jury, it's just one of more, and that's not objective 100%. Otherwise the 39 jury votes would all be the same. We still don't know if Cezar took the last place, but what if we did? Any of the 25 countries can get it and I'm sure many people would place Romania as the last one, so why not the jury?
lucian-crusher
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That doesen't prove it! It depends on how common the other countries where in the table. In 2010,
and got 0 from the Romanian jury and in the end they got 10 and 8, because was the only country that got points from both the Romanian televoting and Romanian jury. So if by the old system a country got 12 points in televoting and 0 in the jury, it could've still gotten 10 points in a total
ParadiseES
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Yeah, and you can get 12 points from televoting and some points from the jury and still not being top-3 in the 50-50. But most probably is that 10 points mean points from both sides.
Yeah, and you can get 12 points from televoting and some points from the jury and still not being top-3 in the 50-50. But most probably is that 10 points mean points from both sides.
ParadiseES
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No? Usually it is (after the political bias). :?
Actually the instructions given to the juries were: voice, song, originality and staging. Romania this year could easily come last in song and staging. Originality is quite a subjective ccategory and voice.... Cezar must be a great cuntertenor, but still many people are pissed by his voice, and so juries can be as well.
+ As someone else said, this song gave a bad image to the whole ESC. When people will be laughing at ESC, this song will be within the ones shown.
I don't see why Romania can't be last in any jury voting.