ROMANIA 2013 - Cezar - It's my life
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Finland was in the jury's bottom-2 in the final and yet the country they made qualify against the public's will so it is beyond me how you so confidently assume that an entry that was given an even higher rank by them (in the finals) and in addition received a lot more televoting support would of been dragged under the qualification mark.My point is that if they could qualify with Balkan girls they basically can get away with everything unless perhaps the semi-final they are competing in would be much bigger and stronger (in terms of mass appeal). Obviously both isn't the case IMHO but indeed this is only my evaluation and no universal truth.
DannyDS
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Oh my, he's very hot
apasionata
Veteran
WTF is this shet?! Bulgaria called, they want their entry back... I still don't know what to think about this but one thing is certain - 0 pts!
My point is that if they could qualify with Balkan girls they basically can get away with everything unless perhaps the semi-final they are competing in would be much bigger and stronger (in terms of mass appeal). Obviously both isn't the case IMHO but indeed this is only my evaluation and no universal truth.
You can disagree with my personal observation of the 2009 situation but the original point was that you automatically assume that "It's my life" is going to qualify just due to the fact it's Romania. All I'm saying is, don't be too sure.
vavera4ka
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Why do i keep going back to Cezare Borgia when i read the name of the thread? lol
Why do i keep going back to Cezare Borgia when i read the name of the thread? lol
You can disagree with my personal observation of the 2009 situation but the original point was that you automatically assume that "It's my life" is going to qualify just due to the fact it's Romania. All I'm saying is, don't be too sure.
My point is that if they could qualify with Balkan girls they basically can get away with everything unless perhaps the semi-final they are competing in would be much bigger and stronger (in terms of mass appeal). Obviously both isn't the case IMHO but indeed this is only my evaluation and no universal truth.
Okay, I was too imprecise: "Romania" and a small weak field and a good/showcasing singer is what it makes a certain qualifier in my eyes.
As for your theory, you may stick to it, but from what we know it defies all rules of logic and probability.
QwaarJet
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Because he would have been a better choice?
All I said was that with a 50/50 jury & televote in the 2009 Semis, the odds for Romania not qualifying would be pretty big. I based it on the kind of music juries usually like and vote for as well as how it actually scored with the juries in the Finals. The only argument you have is that Finland 2009 did even worse.
it's unclear to me how this defies logic in your world just because you disagree. This is all obviously hypothetical but how it defies all probability in your world is beyond my understanding. As it is such a CRAZY accusation of mine saying that juries could have put Romania outside their top 10 in the 2009 Semis.
nekoisneko
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No Electric Fence 
they got 2nd place again ?!
they got 2nd place again ?!
evilperson
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So we've slipped back in time to Bulgaria 2009.
I can't even bring myself to listen to this the whole way through. Perhaps their first non qualifier.
I can't even bring myself to listen to this the whole way through. Perhaps their first non qualifier.
Well, what we know is that:
1) The jury had
in their Top-10 of the semi-final.2) In the finals, the jury put
ahead of .Now it is still possible that the second point for some reasons was reversed in the semi-final. But even if this had been the case, not only
would of had to overcome a 25-points-difference to overtake , also a non-qualifier (the jury rejected in favour of ) had to defeat them through massive support by the jury. From a mathematical point of view this is far from likely.
Well, what we know is that:
1) The jury had
2) In the finals, the jury put
Now it is still possible that the second point for some reasons was reversed in the semi-final. But even if this had been the case, not only
I just don't understand why you're so fixated on Finland. That's one country....it all comes down to the mix of things. Only half of the juries voted in that Semi...having twice as many people will obviously change matters.
In 2009 they actually broke down the jury votes by country. Let's have a look at the juries that voted for Romania in the Final
FYR Macedonia: 6
Azerbaijan: 6
Turkey: 7
Moldova: 12
So only 4 juries voted for Romania. And only Turkey and Macedonia were in the same Semi as Romania so Moldova couldn't have given the helpful 12 points. So if you substract Azerbaijan and Moldova, Romania ends up with 13 points. So I don't think my assumption that Romania may have not qualified with juries is not far fetched or illogical as you claimed it is. That's my point, not that I expected having elaborate on that.
anto475
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actually gutted. this is a terrible terrible terrible terrible song and it's just such a shame because Emilia is an AMAZING song and would be so class live. Like I felt a bit bad when Copacabanana didn't get a high number of points and You ended up winning, but then the latter didn't really have a chance at winning and the former is actually quite a good song, but then this is just shocking. It's a terrible song and I thought Romania would pick something better. Also it seems like something there's a lot of already in this year's contest and that's never good.
tl;dr it makes Belgium look like Norway
tl;dr it makes Belgium look like Norway