Poland POLAND 2018 - Gromee ft. Lukas Meijer - Light Me Up

[Odalis]

Re: POLAND 2018

Throw it on you?

What "modern stuff" did they praise? I must have watched a different show...

My point is that if you want stuff like "Rockstar", just be prepared to see it slaughtered by those juries... you can call it an "anti-jury agenda" if you want (fine by me, I don't have problem of pointing out issues in ESC).

Norway 2017 which was supported way more by the juries than televote (129 points against 29 points from the public)? Australia 2016? You may like or not but it's modern, right? Sweden 2016-2017 (modern, right)? Belgium 2017 (in the final, but i can understand negative reaction to her semi final performance, still in the final they supported her)?
I can go on forever.
On the other hand i can go on forever with the dated stuff they destroyed or at least tried. Hello to Poland 2016. Hello to donadonadona. Hello to Serhat. Hello to Jacques. Hello to many many others.

That's just what i can name from the top of my head, but i've done the research gathering stats and looking for correlations.
There's none.
They support and dislike different things at different years, they have no "solid favorite styles" or "stuff they will destroy no matter what".
And we need them cause without them we'd have freaking DATED IlVolo with a bit less but still DATED Lazarev as WINNERS.
Fuck televoters. seriously.
That's what a 50/50 system does - it balances stuff out and gives us way more fair resiult than it would be if that was only one side. It's an optimal system.

 

[A-lister]

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Norway 2017 which was supported way more by the juries than televote (129 points against 29 points from the public)? Australia 2016? You may like or not but it's modern, right? Sweden 2016-2017 (modern, right)? Belgium 2017 (in the final, but i can understand negative reaction to her semi final performance, still in the final they supported her)?
I can go on forever.
On the other hand i can go on forever with the dated stuff they destroyed or at least tried. Hello to Poland 2016. Hello to donadonadona. Hello to Serhat. Hello to Jacques. Hello to many many others.

That's just what i can name from the top of my head, but i've done the research gathering stats and looking for correlations.
There's none.
They support and dislike different things at different years, they have no "solid favorite styles" or "stuff they will destroy no matter what".
And we need them cause without them we'd have freaking DATED IlVolo with a bit less but still DATED Lazarev as WINNERS.
Fuck televoters. seriously.
That's what a 50/50 system does - it balances stuff out and gives us way more fair resiult than it would be if that was only one side. It's an optimal system.

Norway 2017 "modern"? Well I can give you that it was quite current compared to the rest... but Australia 2016 modern? In what universe?

I like how more or less all examples of "unmodern" you gave were joke entries... I think you could do better than that...

Yeah sure... "fuck televoters" so that we would have to endure more of stuff like Australia and Netherlands 2017, such "forward thinking modern entries"

 

[wtf]

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Praying for ELYSA to get through

 

[revallsay]

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I hope Gromee will send this to NF

 

[ESCPOLAND]

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This is a hit in Poland I think, so I would like to see it in Lisbon

 

[A-lister]

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^
Not a big fan...

Are any acts rumored to take part? It's very silent so far

 

[simonPL]

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Gromee's song is a nice one, but I don't like the music after chorus. Sounds like early 00s. Maybe he is going to participate with new stuff?

I checked Polish forum and there is quite a lot so called "no-names" - people from several talent-shows (which we have in Poland too much) or even not from TV who are going to send their debut singles, so we cannot say many things about them. Most of their songs are pretty bad produced, low quality with a very lame YouTube videos/lyric videos - so they just want to be famous for a while, but just remember that genius people from TVP rejected Helolove with "Hide and Seek" song or Damian Rybicki with "Watchin You" and put on Krajowe Elimiancje such thing as Olaf Bressa song, so... everyone has a chance. On profile "Poland Eurovision" on YT you can see videos with applications.

I found those 2 songs interesting, I like weird sounds, so...

Unfortunatelly this one is in Polish and... French. TVP allows only Polish and English ones... but, who knows?

I don't know if they fit to Eurovision but I am happy for every single song which is not a hard ballad and has better quality than songs recorded in a basement.

Of course, many people talking about Michal Szpak again, I hope if he wants to appear on National Final, he will be on jury, special guest or smth like that. We are not San Marino and we can send someone else (it's just too soon). Lidia Kopania, the face of our faliures in the past, has a great song (made by Swedish producers, of course) and she sent it as well. Rumor has it that the last "The Voice of Poland" winner is going to participate (together with Szpak or solo)... It's a good buzz for those people, so I am not sure if her or Michal want to go this year, but it's a nice topic to talk about, right? We'll see!

Guys who produced music for Carmell's "Faces" last year want to participate (according to Polish forum). Not with this song, but there is one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxZeIMtYzY4

I am still waiting for a banger like "We Are Slavic"!

 

[Sean]

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Unfortunatelly this one is in Polish and... French. TVP allows only Polish and English ones... but, who knows?

No way, Ramona Rey?? Can't believe she's entering!

Discovered her song Skarb in a forum contest here years ago and it's one of my favourite Polish songs ever, is this the entry?

 

[simonPL]

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According to this, EUVI is the entry from her.

 

[Sean]

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According to this, EUVI is the entry from her.

It's certainly a lot more interesting than most entries that get sent to national finals... I'm all for her at the moment

 

[ESCPOLAND]

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Official audio "DELIRIUM".

 

[revallsay]

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I hope she won't go and if she will, I hope Poland will be last in the semi. Song is a big meh, she seems so rude and unpleasant. I don't know what people see in her.

 

[simonPL]

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Oh, don't say that. I didn't like Michal Szpak, but I never would say something about hopes being last in the semi. (it can change if we send the worst sort of disco-polo )

But I agree, her staging is forbidding - that's why she didn't get many votes from people last year. The song itself is only okay.

 

[blue00eyes]

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I hope she won't go and if she will, I hope Poland will be last in the semi. Song is a big meh, she seems so rude and unpleasant. I don't know what people see in her.

Do we have anything better xD

 

[Arion]

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I would love to see Carmell with another song in NF

 

[hawadharma]

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Why Sylwia Grzeszczak never got into Eurovision?

 

[A-lister]

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Why Sylwia Grzeszczak never got into Eurovision?

Because she has a career, unfortunately that's the problem with Polish selection, most people who have a career (radio hits, concert attendance etc.) are not choosing ESC. Donatan/Cleo was basically an exception from the rule, some in here might argue Szpak has a career, but commercial radio didn't even touch his Eurovision entry even after it gave Poland one of the best scores ever, and I'm not surprised since his music is dated and irrelevant.

 

[tuorem]

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Personally, I don't think established acts are necessary for Eurovision. It is a platform through which artists also can start a career or spotlight their material if they didn't get much recognition before.

The issue - if there is one - is more about the reputation of the contest at national level, which could dissuade emerging talents from trying their luck. It can only be solved if the broadcaster is willing to change things though, just look at France: basically three years ago, we've changed our approach and it begins to be fruitful as far as package quality is concerned.

 

[elanyvx]

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[A-lister]

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Personally, I don't think established acts are necessary for Eurovision. It is a platform through which artists also can start a career or spotlight their material if they didn't get much recognition before.

The issue - if there is one - is more about the reputation of the contest at national level, which could dissuade emerging talents from trying their luck. It can only be solved if the broadcaster is willing to change things though, just look at France: basically three years ago, we've changed our approach and it begins to be fruitful as far as package quality is concerned.

I hear what you're saying, but it's not so much whether an act is established or not (Edyta Gorniak is one of the most "established" ones in Poland, but due to lack of commercial success for a decade or so she couldn't even manage to win a selection), rather if acts that have some success or not enter. I know it could be newcomers, but the problem is that ESC has such a bad reputation in Poland, if atleast some (somewhat) successful acts would consider it, they might lead the way and make it "cool" to enter and bring more public interest and try to fight the stigma, a complete unknown name with an unknown song won't bring much public interest.

TVP are bringing newcomers to the selection every year though, but the quality is so dreadful and up-and-coming acts that want a career and a proper breakthrough simply stay as far as away from this as possible because it can even harm any possibilities of having a future career.

When TVP miraculously managed to convince Donatan/Cleo to enter when Poland came back in 2014, they had a momentum to make ESC somwehat "cool" in Poland because they managed to get literary one of the biggest local hits of Poland of the last decade into the contest, but instead of continuing on that path everything went "back to normal" (low quality, no names, lame entries) from 2015- , not all can be blamed on TVP of course, I think the juries biased voting against the Polish entry in 2014 was a turn-off and popular acts saw how Poland was unfairly treated and probably wouldn't want to risk anything and their reputation. I am not sure if TVP tried to get another "hit" back in 2015, but it's fair to say they failed at convincing anyone special after the rather mediocre result for "My Slowianie" in ESC.