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Italy ITALY 2025 - Lucio Corsi - Volevo essere un duro

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nudiecrudi
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Rasmus0714 said:
This forum has a really small sample size though, the leaderboard I saw has him with 23 out of 36 entries (23506 points), between australia (23785 points) and iceland (23022 points)
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Oh yes. The Bubble.
Why people didn't vote in the final in masses for Angelina Mango last year?
She won that scoreboard by a huge margin. And Belgium was fifth or sixth but didn't even qualify.
You really believe that San Marino or Malta, that are above Italy in that ranking, will be higher in the final? Some of the countries that have a better ranking in that scoreboard might even not qualify.
We know how this ranking functions. And we also know that the ESC audience is huger than 25. 000 factious and biased fans
 
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nudiecrudi said:
Oh yes. The Bubble.
Why people didn't vote in the final in masses for Angelina Mango last year?
She won that scoreboard by a huge margin. And Belgium was fifth or sixth but didn't even qualify.
You really believe that San Marino or Malta, that are above Italy in that ranking, will be higher in the final? Some of the countries that have a better ranking in that scoreboard might even not qualify.
We know how this ranking functions. And we also know that the ESC audience is huger than 25. 000 factious and biased fans
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Another scoreboard he got 22 out of 37, with 46k people voting, Mango got 3rd place in this scoreboard last year with 78k people voting
 
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nudiecrudi said:
Oh yes. The Bubble.
Why people didn't vote in the final in masses for Angelina Mango last year?
She won that scoreboard by a huge margin. And Belgium was fifth or sixth but didn't even qualify.
You really believe that San Marino or Malta, that are above Italy in that ranking, will be higher in the final? Some of the countries that have a better ranking in that scoreboard might even not qualify.
We know how this ranking functions. And we also know that the ESC audience is huger than 25. 000 factious and biased fans
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If you Just take one look at La Noia's staging, anyone with normal eyesight could tell it won't win.
San Marino might do better than Italy this year if Gabry made it to the final since it has wide appeal than this song. Zoomer and Gen Alpha considers this song dated and downgrade from last year, rock fans I know consider this song (or whole sanremo 2025) trash, I couldn't find who this song appeal to other than Italian and boomer.
 
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Rasmus0714 said:
If you Just take one look at La Noia's staging, anyone with normal eyesight could tell it won't win.
San Marino might do better than Italy this year if Gabry made it to the final since it has wide appeal than this song. Zoomer and Gen Alpha considers this song dated and downgrade from last year, rock fans I know consider this song (or whole sanremo 2025) trash, I couldn't find who this song appeal to other than Italian and boomer.
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Arguing about this question doesn't have sense anymore because after calling Sanremo trash you just made me clear what your point of view is.
By the way I'm a boomer, a 46 year old man who loves esc and votes . And there isn't any written rule that ESC is made only for Zoomer GenAlpha or teenagers.
 
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I hope he keeps the cute Andy tribute in Basel too!!

but this is such a classy and stunning entry by Italy so it’s such a pity it’s seemingly the first entry of theirs in this decade set not do well for sure

top 10 for sure in Basel I’d say (or hope) but I really hope it can make it all the way to the top 5
 
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nudiecrudi said:
Arguing about this question doesn't have sense anymore because after calling Sanremo trash you just made me clear what your point of view is.
By the way I'm a boomer, a 46 year old man who loves esc and votes . And there isn't any written rule that ESC is made only for Zoomer GenAlpha or teenagers.
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My friends (rock fans) called Sanremo 2025 trash, not me. Maybe you should learn how to read then. The only bearable song for them is Eco.
Some other opinions I read about the song: "It's a standard pop song in a major key that we have heard many many many many many times before in a different package (35/37 from that reddit guy)." "I think the song and Lucio is trying too hard to be Ziggy Stardust era Bowie and whenever artists do that, I'd rather just listen to the real Bowie."
 
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deletingpoint said:
Wow, i had no idea only zoomer genalpha are allowed to vote at esc, gonna cancel my millennial phone number asap.
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I mean the target audience for this song is narrower than San Marino and other songs. Party song (people who hate party song) vs Rock ballad (people who hate dated songs/pop/ballad/Bowie tribute bands/non-rock "rock").
 
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Rasmus0714 said:
My friends (rock fans) called Sanremo 2025 trash, not me. Maybe you should learn how to read then. The only bearable song for them is Eco.
Some other opinions I read about the song: "It's a standard pop song in a major key that we have heard many many many many many times before in a different package (35/37 from that reddit guy)." "I think the song and Lucio is trying too hard to be Ziggy Stardust era Bowie and whenever artists do that, I'd rather just listen to the real Bowie."
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I think you're trying too hard to compare Sanremo to a rock competition because this year Lucio Corsi brought Glam. Sanremo historically isn't a rock competition, but rather a pop, power ballad, and music with profound lyrics. Lately, since its return to the ESC, Sanremo has opened up to different musical genres, to experimentation, and to the sounds that Generation Z loves. It's honestly the most diverse festival currently on the scene. Italy is the nation that has brought the most diversity to its recent ESC appearances, and I think many nations are finally finding inspiration. Identical to the renaissance of national languages, which before the return of Italian had been almost eclipsed by English, considered "more successful and global."

You're focusing on Lucio Corsi as a glam rocker (the same nonsense that was said about Måneskin, which was actually more pop rock, hard rock, rap rock). And you're going down that path of belittling him, of turning him into a Bowie imitator. The resemblance to Bowie is only in the Glam sound and much less in the singing and clothing. The similarity should be sought in other Glam artists rather than in Bowie specifically. And then...always the same story of the "singer from the past who is better." Do you know Bowie's story? In his time, he was considered a poor imitator of Iggy Pop and Lou Reed 😃 Maybe by people like you. Lucio didn't choose Glam out of cleverness or to resemble someone, but because it fits well with the song's message: about weak, bullied guys who dream of being strong. The glamorous exterior is a "tough guy" armor that actually hides the insecurities of a fragile soul.

By confidently stating that the opinions of his friends correspond to a small circle and don't express the opinion of the masses, their fears elevate Lucio. Without realizing it, a boy whom everyone has tried to make seem "forgettable" since the preseason is starting many discussions and gaining sympathy. Data from Spotify, YouTube, TikTok, and more show a clear audience preference for Italy, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, and then Ukraine and France. The data speaks for itself.
 
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Paco Roca said:
I think you're trying too hard to compare Sanremo to a rock competition because this year Lucio Corsi brought Glam. Sanremo historically isn't a rock competition, but rather a pop, power ballad, and music with profound lyrics. Lately, since its return to the ESC, Sanremo has opened up to different musical genres, to experimentation, and to the sounds that Generation Z loves. It's honestly the most diverse festival currently on the scene. Italy is the nation that has brought the most diversity to its recent ESC appearances, and I think many nations are finally finding inspiration. Identical to the renaissance of national languages, which before the return of Italian had been almost eclipsed by English, considered "more successful and global."

You're focusing on Lucio Corsi as a glam rocker (the same nonsense that was said about Måneskin, which was actually more pop rock, hard rock, rap rock). And you're going down that path of belittling him, of turning him into a Bowie imitator. The resemblance to Bowie is only in the Glam sound and much less in the singing and clothing. The similarity should be sought in other Glam artists rather than in Bowie specifically. And then...always the same story of the "singer from the past who is better." Do you know Bowie's story? In his time, he was considered a poor imitator of Iggy Pop and Lou Reed 😃 Maybe by people like you. Lucio didn't choose Glam out of cleverness or to resemble someone, but because it fits well with the song's message: about weak, bullied guys who dream of being strong. The glamorous exterior is a "tough guy" armor that actually hides the insecurities of a fragile soul.

By confidently stating that the opinions of his friends correspond to a small circle and don't express the opinion of the masses, their fears elevate Lucio. Without realizing it, a boy whom everyone has tried to make seem "forgettable" since the preseason is starting many discussions and gaining sympathy. Data from Spotify, YouTube, TikTok, and more show a clear audience preference for Italy, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, and then Ukraine and France. The data speaks for itself.
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Since I cannot know how many stream/tiktok usage are from Italians, the only data I could compare is from spotify (cutting out of all the streaming from their own country).
Italy: 884,105 out of 28,190,055 is from outside italy, 3.13%
Estonia: 1614309 out of 2321832 is from outside estonia, 69.52%
Greece: 2241408 out of 4348169 is from outside Greece, 51.54%
Sweden: 6282339 out of 18,869,099 is from outside Sweden, 33.29%
Portugal: 1088458 out of 3240506 is from outside Portugal, 31.82%
Poland: 2001592 out of 2533829 is from outside Poland, 78.99%
Finland: 3151530 out of 7851721 is from outside Finland, 40.13%
Norway: 3728181 out of 5037290 is from outside Norway, 74.01%
Germany: 2462462 out of 6314433 is from outside Germany, 39%
Switzerland: 913232 out of 964967 is from outside Switzerland, 94.63%
UK: 1205152 out of 1291438 is from outside UK, 93.31%
Denmark: 1390850 out of 1500313 is from outside Denmark, 92.68%
Belgium: 1792219 out of 2264990 is from outside Belgium, 79.12%
Austria: 2075632 out of 2240161 is from outside Austria, 92.65%
Netherlands: 2259910 out of 7116324 is from outside Netherlands, 31.75%
 
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