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Italy ITALY 2025 - Lucio Corsi - Volevo essere un duro

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MartinF

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I hadn't even realised the music video for this was out in the world until about a week ago (I know it's linked back on page 56 here, I'm just a bit slow like that...).

That plus a bit of distance since the whole Olly/Sanremo drama has made me realise what a fine little song it is. Do slow burners ever do well at ESC though...?
 

njdevils94

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She's just there to promote her song/concert?
I'm not saying she's bluffing but if that statement from her was accurate than I guess so. I do think there are some sour grapes with this comment. She never mentioned this in her previous Sanremo participations. Again only speculating.
 

Rasmus0714

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I'm not saying she's bluffing but if that statement from her was accurate than I guess so. I do think there are some sour grapes with this comment. She never mentioned this in her previous Sanremo participations. Again only speculating.
Isn't she a Giorgia fan? It could be related to that as well.
 

Paco Roca

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It seems dated to my ears, but I have a feeling that will do much better than esc fans believe.
I think many are deliberately underestimating Lucio's song. Everyone knows that it is a dangerous contender. If this song, interpreted in this way, had been brought from Georgia we would be tearing our clothes in emotion.

What does "sounds dated" mean? What are the modern songs in the competition? Most of them sound like the ESC of the first decade of the 2000s with a great desire to attract attention with crazy shows and divas proud to captivate their slaves. Is the French ballad original? It is the third in a few years and I have not heard any criticism about the lack of originality of the French entries. We are faced with the usual sweet mush (personally I find it with a melody that is overshadowed by the theatricality) that is presented to us every year. With the addition that "Maman" has its roots in the chanson that is anything but modern. And here a yardstick opens: Lucio's message that talks about bullying and presents the genuine image of a fragile boy who tries to face the world with a Glam attitude and to be himself fades into the background. Everyone on the Eurovision channels shouts "Ah! Italy! You didn't put English subtitles! We don't understand anything...". With the presumption that everyone speaks English, that translations don't exist and that music is not a universal emotional language based on sound. "Maman" in French is understood 🤣 As if a language with fewer speakers than Spanish and English is magically understandable to everyone. In "Maman" everyone now sees a piece of their history or a profound message of how the cosmos was created.

I think the best works were brought by the ESC superpowers: Italy, Sweden and Ukraine. As for Italy, the genius lies in having fused the concept of ballad in an original Glam guise with compositional peaks typical of its own traditional songwriting. We are faced with a pearl and we will realize it in 10 years when it will be one of the few memorable songs of 2025.
 

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SpiritofKeiino

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So many people sleeping on this and even writing it off after it was confirmed as the entry. I think it's coming top 10 and maybe it could even be top 5 if the performance is done right and if it gets a decent running slot.
 

nudiecrudi

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Does harmonica really fit with the song?
Past sunday he was invited in a famous talk-show, Che tempo che fa with Fabio Fazio ( two times Sanremo artistic director and host). In that interview he didn't mentioned at all about this harmonica option. He only said that he is going to keep the song as it was in Sanremo, honest and simple, without fireworks and special effects because, as he pointed out, HONESTY ALWAYS PAYS. He also confirmed that Tommaso will be in stage with him. He also played a song from his latest album and played harmonica in that case.
I tried to find out in which part of the song he could insert the harmonica and the only one is near the end, where he doesn't sing but plays guitar.
 

MooseShoes

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So many people sleeping on this and even writing it off after it was confirmed as the entry. I think it's coming top 10 and maybe it could even be top 5 if the performance is done right and if it gets a decent running slot.
It seems so weird to describe this entry as a dark horse when it's representing a country that has only finished outside the Top 10 once in a decade, including 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th place finishes...

...but it truly is.
 

harey

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Yeah, imo it is totally worth a top10. Some people describe it as outdated but for me it has timeless vibes. And I compare it to the French song in the way both are not musically innovative but it helps to convey the pure sensitivity of the lyrics (in both case you can hear that it comes from their heart). I hope he will get a good result. 🤞🏻
 

Paco Roca

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I'm starting to think that Lucio Corsi wants to dress on the ESC stage not only the Glam Rock spirit but bring a dangerous sense of poetry and "cultured music", that is, a sense of musical composition also with Bob Dylan and Edoardo Bennato vibrations. Many fans will drool. They will see in him as in a surrealist painting hidden mystical meanings.
 

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Not a fan of this entry, but i think it would be hilarious if he actually played the harmonica on stage. I never understood why (for technical reasons) they don't allow wind instruments, that just require one microphone just like vocals, or electronic keyboards that can just be plugged in, but i guess the reasoning they want to be fair and just ban all audible instruments period. And that the EBU doesn't want the host countries to arbitrarily decide who gets to use a live instrument or not, so they just ban them all.

I think it's possible he'll get permission to use it though, especially since it's hosted in Switzerland, one of the countries that seem to be determined to take the ESC more towards musical quality than Björkman Bombast.

The reason people don't like this is because it's low-energy and unremarkable, like Portugal and Slovenia. People who look through this year's entries don't remember it after hearing it. I think those who support this entry do so because they're already familiar with the artist, or looked up the story behind it, but on its own it just doesn't stand out in any way.

I'm starting to think that Lucio Corsi wants to dress on the ESC stage not only the Glam Rock spirit but bring a dangerous sense of poetry and "cultured music", that is, a sense of musical composition also with Bob Dylan and Edoardo Bennato vibrations. Many fans will drool. They will see in him as in a surrealist painting hidden mystical meanings.

I would like that idea more if the music actually sounded like it, and not bland soft-pop dreck with no energy or emotion, and the most generic melody and chord progression possible.
 

nudiecrudi

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The reason people don't like this is because it's low-energy and unremarkable, like Portugal and Slovenia. People who look through this year's entries don't remember it after hearing it. I think those who support this entry do so because they're already familiar with the artist, or looked up the story behind it, but on its own it just doesn't stand out in any way.
Who said people don't like it?
You don't like it. You will not remember it after hearing it because you're looking for high energy and remarkable songs. For you this song doesn't stand out. But that is You and not people.
74,3% of the members that have voted in this forum have given to Lucio from 5 to 12 points. It is enough to say that most of the members here appreciate it. For the bookies Italy still could reach a top 10 result. There are plenty of examples that high energy and remarkable songs the esc bubble loves have failed miserably.
And just a question. I'm missing all those so-called high energy and remarkable songs you're mentioning. 5-6 that's all.
 

ag89

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Among all the noise we have this year, this really starts to feel like a nice cozy hug. It is not the best Italian entry ever (I mean, competition is rough because Italy is Italy and it keeps delivering), but I think this will be such a nice little song that might do well.
 

Rasmus0714

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Who said people don't like it?
You don't like it. You will not remember it after hearing it because you're looking for high energy and remarkable songs. For you this song doesn't stand out. But that is You and not people.
74,3% of the members that have voted in this forum have given to Lucio from 5 to 12 points. It is enough to say that most of the members here appreciate it. For the bookies Italy still could reach a top 10 result. There are plenty of examples that high energy and remarkable songs the esc bubble loves have failed miserably.
And just a question. I'm missing all those so-called high energy and remarkable songs you're mentioning. 5-6 that's all.
This forum has a really small sample size though, the leaderboard I saw has him with 23 out of 36 entries (23506 points), between australia (23785 points) and iceland (23022 points)
 
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