Live EUROVISION SONG CONTEST 2022 FINAL DISCUSSION

[Sean]

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[crashworld]

So it has. If anything, it's worth saving since stuff like this are much harder to find later

Yes. I have downloaded both SF1 and SF2 jury shows.

 

[MopManMoss]

Given Lauri’s vocals I really wouldn’t put Finland down as safe

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Given Lauri’s vocals I really wouldn’t put Finland down as safe

I don't exactly think Achilles vocals are great either, but I think the song and performance could be more appealing to voters overall than Finland. I feel like San Marino is a case where the vocals don't really detract too much from the overall package.

I could see the juries potentially sinking both of them though...although Finland will probably be more popular with the juries than San Marino.

 

[Zerocalcare]

So far I have seen the jury tests of Spain and San Marino... what energy! Spain has made a quantum leap in staging. Now I can say that he might as well take victory!

After the first semifinal many of you have bandaged your heads, cried and shouted at the conspiracy but watch the performances of the second semifinal... it is clear that it will be in this that the hot songs will be able to emerge. I'm sorry to say it but Austria and Albania (which also penalized itself with the choice of a bad staging) would have been musically brutally massacred by the other catchy songs of the second semifinal.

What else to say? Midnightsun watches the videos... Yes, watch them... You will not regret it... How much I love being a tempting devil!

 

[Zeus]

Given Lauri’s vocals I really wouldn’t put Finland down as safe

On the livestream he sounded pretty decent tho yesterday.

 

[Looren]

I wish for these tonight :

Who I think will make it : and last one will be either or one of / I think

 

[HayashiM]

On the livestream he sounded pretty decent tho yesterday.

I have to disagree, I find him to be rather struggling on the jury rehearsal clip Not as much as some others though.

 

[skateaway994]

I think (after watching the videos) that the shocking qualifier will be San Marino, the shocking NQ Malta, Cyprus and maybe even Estonia.

 

[MopManMoss]

Im not sure Malta can really be called a shock NQ, who is going to vote for Malta it is the most generic song i've heard at eurovision in a long time

 

[Stargazer]

This was the first year since 2010 that I wasn't able to watch a semi final live as it happened, so I had to catch up yesterday. I also hadn't had enough time to check out the majority of the songs beforehand, so I went into it rather blind (and will do so as well for semi 2 tonight).

This was my first impression ranking of Semi 1. I had added a GREAT category to my notepad beforehand, but found no song great enough to add to it unfortunately.

GOOD
Bulgaria
Portugal
Denmark
Armenia (good song, but wtf was that staging?!)
The Netherlands

OK
Moldova
Switzerland
Iceland
Greece

EH
Lithuania
Slovenia
Albania
Ukraine
Croatia

WORST
Norway
Latvia
Austria

 

[Augustas]

I think (after watching the videos) that the shocking qualifier will be San Marino, the shocking NQ Malta, Cyprus and maybe even Estonia.

Malta would be shocking qualifier I have 8 countries for tonight as qualifiers (), cant choose last two qualifiers between .

 

[mauve]

 

[crashworld]

OK. I have caved in and watch the jury show (only the 18 performances back to back).
So my thoughts on the performances (an extremely long post):

1. Finland
   The staging is really not working for me. Looks messy and clunky at parts, especially when the sloppy camera angles come in. Lauri's vocals are just not there. The NF staging was so effective, but not this time. I can see this not going through because I doubt the juries will rank it that highly. Needs massive televote support.
   
   
2. Israel
   Definitely one of the most polished performances you can get from the night. Camera angles and LED graphics are mostly good and effective, the ethnic dance-drop, the lightings are amazing. It could have been more dynamic if the camera cuts are sharper and tighter. MBD gave his all, there are some notes that he may not have hit as well as I thought, but I think they are not that noticeable. Once you watched the performance, you actually forget that the song is actually sub-par because everything else just elevate it. The running order definitely has ruined it. If it's later in the show and if the fandom doesn't hate the song so much, I would have said an easy qualifier.
   
   
3. Serbia
   The song is not for me. The performance is basically the same as the NF one just transferred to the ESC stage. I don't know if the English translated lyrics did anything to help anyone understand about the song that much. I love the part towards the end when the red laser lights just went batshit. Very effective. If I am taking into consideration of the fan hype, I feel this song is too big to fail at this point. As for juries, I really don't know how ti will fare because it's not a song for her to show-off her vocals and while it's an interesting piece of composition, does this really have jury appeal? I can see this doing a Portugal 2019 if one just simply doesn't understand what the song or performance is about. But this point, I think it's learning towards a qualification rather than a NQ.
   
   
4. Azerbaijan
   Nadir sounds amazing. Really can't fault him. Some of the camera cuts are pretty effective. The first 2 minutes of the song are basically not that interesting. But when it reached the crescendo then it hits you. But I feel the climax came too late. I really don't know how this will translate to televotes, but I am pretty sure the juries will love it.
   
   
5. Georgia
   This is one of the let-downs for me. The rehearsal clip makes you think that the entire performance is going to be lively and as though you are in a psychedelic dream. But all I got it's very static performance with a pretty lackluster vocals. The camera angles definitely let it down. It lost the fun the song is supposed to bring.
   
   
6. Malta
   Emma sounded good mostly if she is not moving. The staging is fine. Choreography seems a tad bit unnecessary and look forced. Love what she is wearing and the yellow glittery backdrop. But it's pretty uneventful.
   
   
7. San Marino
   I really don't know why the fans are hyping this. The performance looks messy as hell. Too many elements that don't look cohesive to me. I adore Achille's attitude, because he doesn't give a shit. But his vocals are not great, the song itself is average. I really cannot see this doing well with the juries. If you are one who likes batshit staging, you are in for a treat. But it's not for me.
   
   
8. Australia
   Surprise, surprise. I actually thought this is the best staging out of the 18 performances. I love the effective grey/white palette they are going for. The staircase platforms, I thought they fits in nicely somehow. And with the lightings, I thought it really elevate the song for me. The whole performance look grand. I am still not a fan of the song but Sheldon sings the heck out of it. And he didn't go for the dramatic reveal when he took off the mask (ie. the whole hand shivering act etc) and the entire performance doesn't look pretentious like the one we saw in NF. Kudos to Sheldon and the team for making these changes.
   
   
9. Cyprus
   Andromache looks stunning and I do like what they are going after. People complained that the entire performance looks static because she is just standing there and doing very simple choreography. I thought it was OK, but it got hurt by too many wide shots and camera cuts. And she sounded really flat at some parts of the song, I can see the juries voting it down.
   
   
10. Ireland
    The staging is one of the best Ireland has brought in recent years. It's very simple and they are smart in using the lightings. The good use of fireworks at certain point of the song does help. Brooke sounded her best, so kudos to her. And she looks at east when performing it, so it's a plus. But other than that, I really don't think the staging is that impressive to elevate the qualification rate.
    
    
11. North Macedonia
    Andrea really gave her all. The highlight of the entire performance is just her vocals and the angst she gives. But other than that, the staging is very simple. I like how it started dark then go bright towards the end. There is one part with the aerial shot and her with the floor LED graphics looks pretty good. But overall as a package, it's just decent.
    
    
12. Estonia
    Definitely the one that got hurt the most by the black sun. The staging looks empty but Stefan utlizes the entire stage by moving around throughout the performance so it adds a little more dynamism. Love the sepia effect in certain parts of the performance. He sounded mostly great bar the parts when he's walking from the b-stage to the main stage. But the performance still looks bare.
    
13. Romania
    WRS sounds pretty good. The overall package still reeks of early 2000 Eurovision performance. But the song is such a earworm and WRS looks more energetic here compared to the NF performance. However, the camera angles are not good in capturing the atmosphere I like in the NF because the dancers' energy is not effectively captured as compared to the NF performance. Definitely a more televote appeal.
    
    
14. Poland
    Definitely overstaged at this point. The concept is actually not bad with the dancers are inner demons. But some of the CGI effects are really unnecessary and make the performance look clunky. There are some parts that are effective (the ending part) and the aerial shot. But Ochman (sounds heavenly as usual) and the song are the main attraction here. So the staging shouldn't impact the qualification chances.
    
    
15. Montenegro
    I love her outfit with the LED light disk she wore. She sounded her best as compared to the weak pre-parties performances we got. It's actually a very simple staging. But not sure coming after Poland with a similar colour palette and ballad is a good idea. I don't like the idea of the Italian verse towards the end, felt a little clunky.
    
    
16. Belgium
    Jeremie sounded really good throughout the song until he fumbled one of the big notes at the end. Likely may have caused him some jury points. He connected well with the camera most of the times but you can still see some inexperience in his performance. The dancers add nothing to the staging. Definitely one of the weakest stagings for the night.
    
    
17. Sweden
    The performance is basically the same as Melfast, like Sweden does everytime. There are some really poor camera angles and at one point you can see the person turning the round projector screen. I feel the entire performance should just consist of close-up shots and at most body length. There shouldn't be any pan-out shots as the kinetic sun will make that round projector screen looks pathetic. Vocally as expected.
    
    
18. Czech Republic
    The strobe lights effect is amazing. Domenika sounded good except the low parts where she sounds flat. It's pretty noticeable she has support from the is pre-recorded vocal during the big long notes, but it works because it's blended in very nicely so it's not as noticeable as the one in Austria. My only complaint is I don't like almost the whole performance is just white lights because it looks overexposed at some parts. Would have loved if they have gone with the palette from the NF performance, but not a big issue. Glad it works out in the end.

In short, if I have to lock in my qualifiers based on the jury show, they will be:

 

[LakZaNokte]

Hope for another great show!

I took a nap in the afternoon so I should be ok.

 

[goncalovieira]

Another day working from 8am till 7pm.
Feeling dead but excited. It is Eurovision time!

 

[midnightsun]

I hope you can relax now and enjoy the show!

I‘m working from home and I‘ve been switching back and forth from work to this forum the past weeks, in a way I‘m so happy when this is over…

 

[crashworld]

OGAE Press Poll for Today

 

[goncalovieira]

Are you ready for the results?
They will start announcing with Montenegro, then North Macedonia, and Malta.

 

[MopManMoss]

What did the semi 1 ogae press poll have out again? Lithuania and Iceland right?

 

[GermanBango]

I am waaaaaay more relaxed tonight than I was two days ago. All my big favs in this Semi are pretty much safe so I can just sit back and relax.