Eurovision 2020 Online - The Rules

[Eurovision]

The Eurovision 2020 Online Dates


Semi-Final 1: Wednesday, 8 April 2020
Semi-Final 2: Friday, 10 April 2020
Final: Saturday, 25 April 2020


The voting in the Semi-Finals:
from 23 March to 5 April (2 weeks)
The voting for in the Final:
from 11 April to 19 April (9 days)​

In order to keep the Eurovision spirit alive and well, we intend to hold a full vote of our community here on the forum and enjoy what could have happened in May.

The Rules​

The Jury


APPLY HERE TO BE A JUROR

1. Every country's jury has 5 members. Anyone can join a jury before it is complete.

2. As a member of jury you can only take part from the country you are from. If your country has reached the 5 members max, you can still take part but you will be allocated to one of the countries listed in rule 3 (below).

3. If you are from a country outside of the participants of 2020 (USA, Brazil, Indonesia, Turkey etc) then you can take part from countries with very few or no members, these include:

• Iceland
• Belarus
• Norway
• Czech Republic
• Georgia
• Malta
• Latvia
• Israel

4. During the voting you rank each song in the semi from 1 to 16 (if you vote in the 1st Semi-final), from 1 to 17 (if you vote in the 2nd Semi-final) not including your own country or from 1 to 17-18 (if you vote as jury of Big5 or The Netherlands), and then from 1 to 25 in the final (if your country participates) or 1 to 26 if it does not participate in the final. You must send your votes to your head of Jury.


Head of Jury

1. Each country will have 1 Head of Jury who you will send your votes to.

2. As Head of Jury, you are responsible for combing all of the ranks to create 1 set of 12, 10, 8-1 votes from the jury and then sending these votes to the main host by the specified deadline. Only be a HoJ if you’re a fully active member of the forum with time. We don’t want to be chasing the HoJ up to send votes.

3. After all 5 members cast their votes to the HOJ, the average place of each country will be counted, the highest ranked country gets 12 points and so on by Eurovision system. These points as well as the spreadsheet showing the juries full breakdown must be sent to the Eurovision account.

4. All details of your juries voting must be kept private to your jury until after the final results, or you will be disqualified. However, jurors can share how they voted with other members of their own jury. For example if you’re in the British Jury, you can show the other members of the British jury, but not the German Jury.

The Televoting

1. Every forum member can vote in the televoting of any Semifinal and/or Final.

2. As a televoter you will have 20 'SMS' votes to allocate as you wish among the songs. You cannot vote for the country you are from. You must send your 'SMS' votes to the host account Eurovision

3. All the televoting 'SMS' will be counted all together and translated (by percentage) to equal to juries number of points.


It is important to note that we intend to have a jury vote from every country. While we are hopeful we can achieve this, it does mean that should we fail to receive a jury vote from any country, we will create an aggregated jury vote for them based on the jury votes of their pot members (or the other PQ countries in the case of the big 5 + host). In the same style the EBU would in Eurovision with a disqualified jury.


Note that we can't predict for now how many people participate, so we can extend some rules according to situation

 

[Leydan]

I could go out on stage with wooden sticks in hands and 5 naked people and beat their butts repeatedly for 3 minutes.

Make this Polands entry for 2021 pls.

 

[JamieBrown]

I don´t know yet how I´ll rate the songs.

Me neither, the scoring system I used for fun last year was based on the live acts, so this year I need to find few new categories to rank the entries. But I decided to discuss the matter with the jury I'll end up in. Hope I get to know it soon

 

[Ausesken]

We will be so much more professional than 'professionals' that our national broadcasters will call us the next year to actually be their juries.

 

[dogmeat]

We'll ask Margaret if she is available

For beating or getting beaten?

 

[Yazy]

So, I´m still trying to wrap my brain around the rules, but here is question: Will it be easy to keep track of forum users that are from one country but are being jury members for a different country?

If for example, a Swedish user ends up being a part of Norwegian jury, he will still rank Norway, despite being in Norwegian jury, right?

 

[crashworld]

So, I´m still trying to wrap my brain around the rules, but here is question: Will it be easy to keep track of forum users that are from one country but are being jury members for a different country?

If for example, a Swedish user ends up being a part of Norwegian jury, he will still rank Norway, despite being in Norwegian jury, right?

Nope. If the Swedish user becomes a Norwegian jury, he/she can only vote in the semi that Norway is in and he/she cannot vote for Norway in the both the semi/final as a jury. But as a televoter, he/she can vote for Sweden/Norway or any country in all semi/final.

 

[DanielLuis]

So, I´m still trying to wrap my brain around the rules, but here is question: Will it be easy to keep track of forum users that are from one country but are being jury members for a different country?

If for example, a Swedish user ends up being a part of Norwegian jury, he will still rank Norway, despite being in Norwegian jury, right?

I'm pretty sure that if a Swedish juror ends up in the Norwegian jury they would vote like a Norwegian juror would vote at Eurovision. That means they would have to rank Sweden and not Norway.

Another question: if a that happens, would the Swedish user use up their 20 televotes as part of Sweden's televoting or Norway's?

 

[crashworld]

I'm pretty sure that if a Swedish juror ends up in the Norwegian jury they would vote like a Norwegian juror would vote at Eurovision. That means they would have to rank Sweden and not Norway.

Another question: if a that happens, would the Swedish user use up their 20 televotes as part of Sweden's televoting or Norway's?

If based on the following rule:

2. As a televoter you will have 20 'SMS' votes to allocate as you wish among the songs. You cannot vote for the country that you are currently in. You must send your 'SMS' votes to the host account Eurovision

Then technically the Swedish forum member cannot televote for Sweden.

Edit: Answers received from subsequent responses.

 

[Eurovision]

If a Swedish member ends up as Norwegian juror, he has to vote as Norwegian juror so can't include Norway in the rank AND being Swedish member, has to skip Sweden from the rank as well and average placing for Sweden (only) would be counted from other 4 jurors ranks

 

[Soul]

Have only listened to a handful of songs so far and I really look forward to listen to them all in one sitting the jury-way.

 

[Eurovision]

Televoting is a separate thing which has nothing with the jury and all votes will be counted together. If you are from one of 41 participating counties, you can't SMS for your own country. If you are outside - no limits for you. In televoting doesn't matter if you participate as a juror at all and what jury you belong.

 

[Yazy]

If a Swedish member ends up as Norwegian juror, he has to vote as Norwegian juror so can't include Norway in the rank AND being Swedish member, has to skip Sweden from the rank as well and average placing for Sweden (only) would be counted from other 4 jurors ranks

Gotcha. This is the answer I was looking for.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Yazy]

Televoting is a separate thing which has nothing with the jury and all votes will be counted together. If you are from one of 41 participating counties, you can't SMS for your own country. If you are outside - no limits for you. In televoting doesn't matter if you participate as a juror at all and what jury you belong.

Is there a specific way that I have to present my televotes or I can just do it like this for example:

This is 20 SMS votes all together:

Malta x 8
Norway x 5
Portugal x 4
Switzerland x 3

 

[Eurovision]

Is there a specific way that I have to present my televotes or I can just do it like this for example:

This is 20 SMS votes all together:

Malta x 8
Norway x 5
Portugal x 4
Switzerland x 3

Yes, like this

 

[crashworld]

If a Swedish member ends up as Norwegian juror, he has to vote as Norwegian juror so can't include Norway in the rank AND being Swedish member, has to skip Sweden from the rank as well and average placing for Sweden (only) would be counted from other 4 jurors ranks

As a recommendation, I think it's best to update the original post under the "Jury" section with this example so everyone knows what to do. I actually thought that if you are a Swedish member but as a Norwegian juror, you still can rank Sweden as "technically" you are a representative of the Norwegian jury panel.

 

[Petar]

I see nothing wrong with people from Sweden voting for Sweden as a part of Norwegian jury. Gives us a bit of bloc voting feeling.

 

[Steffan]

Do all entries have live versions?
If so, when making the shows can we be provided with both live and studio?
If not, I assume it would be more fair to use studio versions for all songs, rather than mix n matching.

P.S. Super duper excited for this!

 

[mauve]

Do all entries have live versions?
If so, when making the shows can we be provided with both live and studio?
If not, I assume it would be more fair to use studio versions for all songs, rather than mix n matching.

P.S. Super duper excited for this!

Unfortunately not all entries have live versions (for instance Cyprus doesn't ... or Germany has one, but only an acoustic version). And I think some have only NF versions and no official ones.

 

[Petar]

Then it's maybe better to rate studio versions only.

 

[dezbee2008]

Thank you for doing this.

I was off for a few days, but I am sad and disappointed that the shows are off this year. However, that doesn't mean we can't have a little fun here