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Estonia ESTONIA 2025 - Tommy Cash - Espresso macchiato

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Lietuvis

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It sounds great saying people who do not support aggression should stop living their lives and not visit Crimea for any reason.
I never said that. I'm not sure why you're making stuff up. I even asked if there's a justification for it - and visiting family in Crimea could be solid justification - similar to the case of Oleksandr Usyk.
 

Bsimmons

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I never said that. I'm not sure why you're making stuff up. I even asked if there's a justification for it - and visiting family in Crimea could be solid justification - similar to the case of Oleksandr Usyk.
Chill. I didnt specifically meant you here. Quoting you was mostly to agree with not turning this thread to some political discussion. Some other people here are trying to build that narrative though, crying about him visiting Crimea (without knowing the reason behind it) and comfortably not mentioning what he has actually said about this meaningless war.
 

Rocket man

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Chill. I didnt specifically meant you here. Quoting you was mostly to agree with not turning this thread to some political discussion. Some other people here are trying to build that narrative though, crying about him visiting Crimea (without knowing the reason behind it) and comfortably not mentioning what he has actually said about this meaningless war.

It doesn't matter what he said, his actions have undermined what he has said. And as a reminder, russia's invasion of Ukraine started in 2014, not 2022.

If you're going to act like a clown, then at least try to be funny. Because if not, then you probably are just a clown.
 

henhu

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This "Tommy Cash visited Crimea in 2021" is already confirmed as fake news, it was posted by parody account in Twitter. This gossip newspaper in Ukraine can get into legal trouble.

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Ted Talks

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To me, I think in the 'United by Music' era of Eurovision, one country openly mocking and poking fun at a fellow country is just not on.

If a country wants to mock its own quirks and eccentricities, that is fine to me as they are 'in' on the joke - much like how the UK/Sweden have hosted in recent years. They've mocked themselves from a place of affection. A country's song could do that, but about themselves.

One country mocking another in the way that Tommy is doing is just outdated, crass and offensive. It's 2025 for goodness sake, relying on stereotypes of Italians to create a 'fun/quirky' song really is not what the modern contest is about to me.

Imagine the UK doing a song about France with the artist dressed in a stripy shirt with onions around their neck and holding baguettes. It wouldn't be right. It does feel like those defending Tommy are okay with it as it's not their country being mocked. Their tune might change if it was...
 

Bsimmons

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It doesn't matter what he said, his actions have undermined what he has said. And as a reminder, russia's invasion of Ukraine started in 2014, not 2022.

If you're going to act like a clown, then at least try to be funny. Because if not, then you probably are just a clown.
As a reminder, water is wet and the sun rises from the east. Quick question. EBU banned Russia only in 2022. Does that mean EBU supports annexation of Crimea and if so why you are following the Eurovision?
 

njdevils94

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He broke another rule today. :lol:

He featured with Joost in the music video titled United By Music that just came out this morning. According to the EBU guidelines and brand book it is prohibited in the rules to use the phrase or slogan "United by Music" in any sort of commercial entity without permission from the EBU themselves.

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henhu

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Yeah I wish that "being an avenger for Joost" was not his personality. The song already got attention without this.
 

Bsimmons

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Yeah I wish that "being an avenger for Joost" was not his personality. The song already got attention without this.
All part of a bigger plan. He also warned about this. I just hope he takes some break because otherwise it will be really exhausting for next 2 months. Will be difficult times for snowflakes for sure.
 

AlekS

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This "Tommy Cash visited Crimea in 2021" is already confirmed as fake news, it was posted by parody account in Twitter. This gossip newspaper in Ukraine can get into legal trouble.

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It was posted by Ukrainian broadcaster itself. As we already know :devilish:, they receive info directly from the border service.
 

Rocket man

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As a reminder, water is wet and the sun rises from the east. Quick question. EBU banned Russia only in 2022. Does that mean EBU supports annexation of Crimea and if so why you are following the Eurovision?

Do you not want to talk about the Estonian entry now?
 

henhu

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It was posted by Ukrainian broadcaster itself. As we already know :devilish:, they receive info directly from the border service.
They should post photo, dates and other proof it they received the info from the border service.
 
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toinou03

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OK. The strong point is that it's instantly memorable. Once you have listened to it, you have to sing Espresso Macchiato Macchiato all day.
I'm a little let down by what's on the stage. The staging is very clever. The singing is very bad. The intentions are to mock the contest and get a wider fame as Tommy Cash is famous in niches (he has had articles in French medias for going to the fashion week dressed like he's in bed, for instance), and his weird videos have been seen by a lot of people, but he's not that popular.

I don't know what to do with the song either. I somehow like and dislike it at the same time...
 

Lietuvis

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Why is he voluntarily stepping into shit? :unsure:
 

Judas

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Why is he voluntarily stepping into shit? :unsure:
To be fair a lot can change in a decade, including tastes and opinions.
 
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