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Estonia ESTONIA 2024 - 5miinust & Puuluup - (nendest) narkootikumidest ei tea me (küll) midagi
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eerik
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You are correct. The new version has more backing vocals, which does mimic the live performance more, but is unnecessary for a studio version.
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From the beginning I have kept an eye on the Estonian song. I was surprised that the musical product did not win me over and did not win the favor of the public. Audiences have gravitated towards more accessible crazy tracks like Croatia and Netherlands. Continuing to study Estonia, however, I recognize that it was able to bring a crazy song that has the unusual characteristics of the grower, of a song that over time enters the collective imagination, of the cult. The sound is there and engaging, there are epic elements (like the dancing, the stringed instruments, the Punk bully look) and the video is very reminiscent of those 90s products (I say this as a compliment). The final dance scene in the video is epic. From a sense of those films where the scene took place in an American ghetto or... I know I travel a lot with my mind, it also gives me the idea of the grotesque horror films of those years (I always say this in a positive sense). Personally the most sophisticated crazy song of 2024. If Estonia manages to bring the madness and the dark and rough features of the video to the stage it could be Moldova 2022.
Don't worry, this is in the final safely. If the performance is anything like the NF, it's safe. I thought the video was a little dark and messy, and didn't really bring the feeling of the NF performance, but who cares. I'm hoping for at least top 15. The bowed lyre needs more representation!
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A fan asked 5MIINUST to come to the Madrid pre-party. 5MIINUST's response:
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So they will actually do some pre-parties, was wondering about that! Back in the day, Estonian acts never used to show up! 
But in recent years, they've been much more active in this regard. Alika was all over the place last year! I guess they have more time/money to spend, or maybe their labels help out. Don't imagine ERR pays for it, but who knows! Not that it makes much difference in terms of votes, but might be a cool experience for the artists themselves. Get some contacts & promo going. Will be interesting to see if the crowd is lively! Not the easiest song to sing along to, but I guess they can do the HEY HEY parts. Maybe some more adventurous audience members will try the dance too!
In other news, there will probably be some choreo changes for Eurovision. In one interview they said there's been feedback about some parts being a bit confusing & there being a lot of info crammed into 3 minutes. But the dance stays! Here's hoping they can make the final version more polished & coherent while still keeping the fun energy.
I'd also consider changing the color scheme perhaps. The greenish yellow isn't the most visually appealing shade IMO. Gives me Partners In Crime flashbacks. But I guess it works if "drug haze" was the vibe they were going for.
Wonder what (if anything) they'll do with the LEDs. There wasn't much in the way of LED screens in EL, but maybe they could come up with some cool backdrops or floor graphics or something. Just keep the creepy eyeballs to a minimum perhaps!
But in recent years, they've been much more active in this regard. Alika was all over the place last year! I guess they have more time/money to spend, or maybe their labels help out. Don't imagine ERR pays for it, but who knows! Not that it makes much difference in terms of votes, but might be a cool experience for the artists themselves. Get some contacts & promo going. Will be interesting to see if the crowd is lively! Not the easiest song to sing along to, but I guess they can do the HEY HEY parts. Maybe some more adventurous audience members will try the dance too!In other news, there will probably be some choreo changes for Eurovision. In one interview they said there's been feedback about some parts being a bit confusing & there being a lot of info crammed into 3 minutes. But the dance stays!
Here's hoping they can make the final version more polished & coherent while still keeping the fun energy. I'd also consider changing the color scheme perhaps.
The greenish yellow isn't the most visually appealing shade IMO. Gives me Partners In Crime flashbacks. But I guess it works if "drug haze" was the vibe they were going for. Wonder what (if anything) they'll do with the LEDs. There wasn't much in the way of LED screens in EL, but maybe they could come up with some cool backdrops or floor graphics or something.
Just keep the creepy eyeballs to a minimum perhaps!
BernadetteCydonia
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I want a little bit of change in the wardrobe department - I don't think that plain black-suited image is all that outstanding. Not that they need to go absolute nuts with it, but changing something up about it would be nice.
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Uh, well.. I imagine they're actually singing, yes. With 6 people already on stage, there's no room for hidden backing vocalists. I suppose there's a chance they might be using pre-recorded backings during some parts, hard to tell.. but if they weren't singing at all, their live performance would sound perfect, which it definitely doesn't. There are several moments when the vocals get a little lost, mostly during the more hectic parts, here's hoping they can fix that by May. Considering the choreo they're doing the vocals are quite decent, but there's definitely room for improvement.
Regarding their outfits, I don't mind the current ones. But they could certainly try something different if they wanted too. I guess there's a balance you want to strike, between serious/cool/jokey, and backgrounds/LEDs/lighting to take into account. Don't want them getting lost on stage, which could happen with dark stage/dark outfits, but also don't want everything to get too colorful or messy. They need to be able to dance as well. What they have planned for ESC stage in regards to colors & backdrops might dictate the final outfits, guess we'll have to wait and see.
With 6 people already on stage, there's no room for hidden backing vocalists. I suppose there's a chance they might be using pre-recorded backings during some parts, hard to tell.. but if they weren't singing at all, their live performance would sound perfect, which it definitely doesn't. There are several moments when the vocals get a little lost, mostly during the more hectic parts, here's hoping they can fix that by May. Considering the choreo they're doing the vocals are quite decent, but there's definitely room for improvement.Regarding their outfits, I don't mind the current ones.
But they could certainly try something different if they wanted too. I guess there's a balance you want to strike, between serious/cool/jokey, and backgrounds/LEDs/lighting to take into account. Don't want them getting lost on stage, which could happen with dark stage/dark outfits, but also don't want everything to get too colorful or messy. They need to be able to dance as well. What they have planned for ESC stage in regards to colors & backdrops might dictate the final outfits, guess we'll have to wait and see. 
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Song is starting to grow on me. i am starting to like it more.
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The video is fun but I wonder how well it will work live. It's full of energy, yet at the same time kind of goes nowhere. The bald guy makes me think of Alexei Sayle in his younger days, he had a similar in-your-face vibe.
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LT United (Lithuania 2006) vibes and I'm here for itI live for the half-bald guy with the deep voice
Nothing like the same. Listening today the 24 entry just sounds like some kind of village folk song, but with nothing distinctive. LT United is a very catchy singalong song that might be sung at a party.
BernadetteCydonia
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LT United song was riding off of the repetition of the silly "we are the winners of Eurovision" line like they actually "meant" it (the black suits meant business in that way), and a bald dancing man. There's a lot more else going on with Estonia that would not ride off just that - the song's a lot more fun, and the costumes will likely be worked on to not just make them look like LT United pastiches (and really they'd be better if the costumes weren't the pastiches. You could at least make some sense out of LT United wearing *their* suits, however I did see 5MIINUST and Puuluup wear something else in their lives at least once before, so they better make me believe they will continue doing something about it).
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I'm pretty sure 99.99% of the general audience won't remember a song from 2006, other than the winner perhaps, so I doubt them having similar suits will really be an issue in this regard. Much more likely some might think "oh, another Käärijä copycat!", but nothing to really do about that I guess.
I do wonder what other kind of outfits they could wear. Not sure a very casual jeans/shirt kind of look would really work on stage. Going for something silly like in the music video might be more memorable, but could move things further into 'joke song' territory. Guess we'll have to wait and see what, if anything, they change in the end.
So, getting the running order tonight! Would be cool if we got to finish the show or something! Don't think we've ever gotten to close the semi! But if they're looking at the odds and want to give Netherlands the pimp slot, it's more likely they might stick us earlier to space us apart. Hope it will be a good position in any case!
Much more likely some might think "oh, another Käärijä copycat!", but nothing to really do about that I guess.I do wonder what other kind of outfits they could wear.
Not sure a very casual jeans/shirt kind of look would really work on stage. Going for something silly like in the music video might be more memorable, but could move things further into 'joke song' territory. Guess we'll have to wait and see what, if anything, they change in the end. So, getting the running order tonight! Would be cool if we got to finish the show or something!
Don't think we've ever gotten to close the semi! But if they're looking at the odds and want to give Netherlands the pimp slot, it's more likely they might stick us earlier to space us apart. Hope it will be a good position in any case! 
Oh no no no.... 
Quite bad running order position for us... Between two huge favorites. Italy isn't participating in SF, but still...
Well, it could have been worse and let's hope for the best!
The Netherlands was quite predictable closer, but I wished that position for us!
Quite bad running order position for us... Between two huge favorites. Italy isn't participating in SF, but still...Well, it could have been worse and let's hope for the best!
The Netherlands was quite predictable closer, but I wished that position for us!
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Eh well, at least we're pretty close to the end of the show and didn't get the earliest possible slot in second half. Also there's a pretty big possibility there will be a small break between us and Italy, for the hosts to introduce them. Seems unlikely they'd have the "guest performances" show up randomly without a small intro and reminder that they can't be voted for. Would have been nice to close the semi for once, but I guess they went with the predictable choice.
Wonder if we'll get the odds to qualify soon too. Another year of being a borderline qualifier? Well, better than being a certain non-qualifier at least! But it would be nice to feel safe about our qualification again! Less stressful that way. I guess Stefan had decent qualification odds in 2022, but then we also had the stage drama to add doubt and uncertainty. Other than him tho', 2018 was the last time we were higher in the odds. 2019, 2021, 2023, all borderline. Oh well, we shall have to wait and see. Still early days, odds will matter more once rehearsals start. Here's hoping we can exceed expectations and get those televoters voting! Would be sad to miss out when we finally send something a little different. Back to safe beige pop songs if that happens I guess!
Also there's a pretty big possibility there will be a small break between us and Italy, for the hosts to introduce them. Seems unlikely they'd have the "guest performances" show up randomly without a small intro and reminder that they can't be voted for. Would have been nice to close the semi for once, but I guess they went with the predictable choice.Wonder if we'll get the odds to qualify soon too. Another year of being a borderline qualifier?
Well, better than being a certain non-qualifier at least! But it would be nice to feel safe about our qualification again! Less stressful that way. I guess Stefan had decent qualification odds in 2022, but then we also had the stage drama to add doubt and uncertainty. Other than him tho', 2018 was the last time we were higher in the odds. 2019, 2021, 2023, all borderline. Oh well, we shall have to wait and see. Still early days, odds will matter more once rehearsals start. Here's hoping we can exceed expectations and get those televoters voting! Would be sad to miss out when we finally send something a little different. Back to safe beige pop songs if that happens I guess! Well, imho, Israel is DOA, according to the wider public opinion (I personally LOVE that song a lot tbh). The Juries will give some points but the public? I won't count on that.
Belgium WILL be a public favorite, that much I can predict Ok points from the Juries as well, I guess.
But yeah, my main concern is Italy shadowing our position. They don't compete, I understand. And Israel might become a toilet break for many, I also understand.
If to look the end part of the SF, Norway is much too different to be our competitor (they have a bit different voting audience, imho).
And SORRY for saying this, I don't count Netherlands our competitor AT ALL. The message of the song - ok, The BEAT - ok. The OUTRO - VERY OK! But the song overall? It classifies as a joke entry. For me, at least. Of course, no idea about the staging and live performance. That might change some things.
Belgium WILL be a public favorite, that much I can predict
Ok points from the Juries as well, I guess.But yeah, my main concern is Italy shadowing our position. They don't compete, I understand. And Israel might become a toilet break for many, I also understand.
If to look the end part of the SF, Norway is much too different to be our competitor (they have a bit different voting audience, imho).
And SORRY for saying this, I don't count Netherlands our competitor AT ALL. The message of the song - ok, The BEAT - ok. The OUTRO - VERY OK! But the song overall? It classifies as a joke entry. For me, at least. Of course, no idea about the staging and live performance. That might change some things.
BernadetteCydonia
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I'm only not mad at the way things are right now BECAUSE of the big 5/host performances separating my absolute favourite song of the season and the most loathed one, but I do feel bad for Italy to have to be performing before *that*.
Semifinal closers have proven to be a goldmine if there are some good ones that could justifyably end the show and still place great in the semi. Cyprus 2018 and Finland 2023 for example. So Netherlands was a given for this role.
And even if after all that y'all dare to call Estonia a NQ, I'm gonna have to assume you're voting-rule-comprehension-blind, simple as that
Semifinal closers have proven to be a goldmine if there are some good ones that could justifyably end the show and still place great in the semi. Cyprus 2018 and Finland 2023 for example. So Netherlands was a given for this role.
And even if after all that y'all dare to call Estonia a NQ, I'm gonna have to assume you're voting-rule-comprehension-blind, simple as that