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Denmark DENMARK 2023 - Reiley - Breaking My Heart

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I have Denmark as the 4th best song as of right now, among the 15 national winners. I like Latvia and Norway better (although Alessandra wasn't my number 1 in Norway) - and Italy just squeezes into my 3rd position, although I don't think it's a fantastic song.
 

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As I wrote already after the rehearsals, I thought that Reiley should rest his voice. He had two performances in the afternoon, and then there were two more in the main show. It's a very straining song to sing, so no wonder he had problems with it later on that evening. From what I've heard from people who listen to his music more than I do, there is no reason to general concern about that.

And regarding what has been said about autotune so many times now: It's NOT autotune. It's a backing sound. It's used very often in falsetto songs.
 

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so the backing sound owns the leadsinger and is the boss here?
hallelujah xcookie

I don't like backing vocals that are put directly on to the main vocal. And besides, I don't like (most) falsetto songs because they tend to sound less good on a live stage. It's a difficult technique.

But that doesn't mean that this is autotune.
 

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The more I listen to this song the more I dislike it. It reminds me of something that Germany would send. You know this type of perfect and soulless plastic pop. I switched to :0: points. I'm sorry to the danish fans here. I just don't think this song is a good choice for a competition. It's a cute album track. My favorite entry from Denmark reminds Rasmussen. Higher Ground is still a fresh bop. And while watching his performance I realized how much better the show itself looked in comparison to DMGP23. They should revamp the show imo.
 

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Here is the full afterparty performance, give it a listen. Allowing pre-recorded backing vocals was always a terrible decision.

I think he's seen people talking shit about his singing :'D
He uploaded a heavily edited acoustic cover on Instagram... You can hear the fragments of the pitch correction... 😬
 

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mmm I like Danish
 

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The song was written by Swedes.

Which isn’t? (That really doesn‘t mean anything. Half the songs we have each year are written, at least partly, by Swedes.)

But yeah, Denmark’s usually less successful than Norway or Sweden. All of them usually have the typical Euroschlager (means: pop songs with a semi contemporary dance beat) participating in their NFs. While Norway and Sweden sometimes have a good hand when it comes to this and send real bops, Denmark‘s are just middle of the road most often. I don’t know why that is because Denmark has some PRETTY awesome bands, but mostly not on Eurovision (sharing the same fate as Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, The Netherlands … basically all of middle Europe :-)).
 

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Don't know why he decided to lie about his age but Reiley is indeed 25, not 20 as was first thought.

Too bad he wasted all of his lucky genes on the look, nothing left for the vocals
 

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meanwhile the eurovision youtubechannel has that "song".
interesting detail: 2811 likes : 1918 dislikes - i have scrolled down but can not find one negative comment.xrollinglol
is that propaganda,too? xcookie


update:
3042 likes : 2122 dislikes
update 2:
3254 likes : 2266 dislikes
update 3: (23th february)
4240 likes : 2886 dislikes
and still no negative comment. xpolice
 
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Its good thing that when I grade the song, I always choose to grade the version that I find superior.

Because the studio cut is such a guilty pleasure for me, while the live is...well...not. :confused:

*Sigh*
Dear studio cut, here is your :8: points.

It really seems like in the future I will have to specify in the bracket which version of the song I have graded when I do my ESC rankings, because the margin between how much I would grade the studio vs live is quite significant with this one.
 

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Which isn’t? (That really doesn‘t mean anything. Half the songs we have each year are written, at least partly, by Swedes.)

But yeah, Denmark’s usually less successful than Norway or Sweden. All of them usually have the typical Euroschlager (means: pop songs with a semi contemporary dance beat) participating in their NFs. While Norway and Sweden sometimes have a good hand when it comes to this and send real bops, Denmark‘s are just middle of the road most often. I don’t know why that is because Denmark has some PRETTY awesome bands, but mostly not on Eurovision (sharing the same fate as Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, The Netherlands … basically all of middle Europe :-)).

Alright, so first you're saying that it doesn't matter which country the composers of the songs come from, and then you're saying that Denmark should do better because Denmark has many good bands?

Of course it matters how the countries recruit the composers for their Eurovision effort. It's just like football clubs - if you buy the best people for the job, you might win the championship. The downside is that it is expensive, and that it deprives the country's own "players" of their chance to find a way to the big stage. It may even damage the image of the show because the fans feel alienated.

I recognize that many don't care about where the performers are coming from. They just want "a great show" and support their team even if it consists of nothing but artists/athletes from abroad bought with money from Arabic sponsors. I feel different about it. I think it's good that the entity you have a relation to are producing stuff of their own. And in terms of Eurovision, I would prefer - within, say, the coming decade - one Danish Eurovision winner written and performed by Danes to two Danish Eurovision winners written by foreigners with no relation to Denmark and maybe sung by a singer who has barely lived in the country.
 

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Alright, so first you're saying that it doesn't matter which country the composers of the songs come from

Didn’t say that. Just stating the fact that many songs are written by Swedes, whether I like it or not (hint: not). It’s just that you basically - unfortunately - can’t avoid that.

It's just like football clubs - if you buy the best people for the job, you might win the championship.

In terms of ESC: Find the mistake. ;)
Modern Eurovision (from say 2010+) isn’t about the BEST composer anymore, it’s about who writes the most successful typical Eurovision song with a certain formula (often referred to "the Swedish formula"). The past few years, Sweden, however, didn’t send any typical Sweden songs anymore (and look at the results) but their songwriters take part in other countries and were more or less successful with it.

I don’t know if you know the German band Modern Talking. Their head, Dieter Bohlen, has a career of huge success, not because he‘s the best songwriter in the world but a very successful. Dieter Bohlen could be the entry in the encyclopaedia that describes "generic“. I haven’t listen to music that screams more generic than his songs. (Kinda the German Kirkorov, musically.)

So Sweden composers are like Dieter Bohlen. Only for Eurovision songs.

I prefer of course there would be less Dieter Bohlens involved in Eurovision song writing.
 

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Whether that pre-recorded vocal sound stays or goes, I have to be frank: I am not a fan of hearing it in a live version.

With studio cut I don´t mind because I see the entire artificial background as kind of a selling point hence I can even vibe to the entire overproduced electronic sound. But with live version I guess I´m just expecting something else.

I´m just gonna write few points that I would personally love to see in terms of which direction the entry should be heading.

Anyways:
  • new version made specifically for ESC (old one can still be used for TikTok publicity etc.)
  • five live backing vocals replacing the electronic backvocals sound on stage
  • less dance-like choreography and more personal and reserved performance with focus on the main singer
  • ditch the dancers and have some interesting props and visuals on stage instead (maybe a performance that is a mix of "Snap" and "Friend of a "friend")

NOTE: This is just what I would love, NOT what should be done. I´m not gonna pretend like I know better than the people that are actually on the job.
 

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The past few years, Sweden, however, didn’t send any typical Sweden songs anymore (and look at the results) but their songwriters take part in other countries and were more or less successful with it.

And I'm not a fan of that. I wouldn't mind a (to some extent) reduced quality of songs if we could get rid of the pan European song writing. Why should Azerbaidjan send a Swedish written song to Eurovision? It doesn't make sense really. Unless you completely ignore the songwriting part of Eurovision and only focus on the WYSIWYG. To me, that would correspond to allowing Swedish players on the Azerbaidjan national team.

I think it's interesting to follow Finland's development in recent years. Their success is mainly based on the country's own songwriting and production. And actually, Norway has mainly Norwegian songwriters as well. That's good - not only for the national musicians, but also for my interest. If Norway's and Finland's recent successes were only a matter of hiring some experienced Swedish composers, I would find it depressing. (And here I'm not talking about the style of music, because I don't think the Norwegian and Finnish way of thinking music is much different from the Swedish.)
 
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