CZECH REPUBLIC 2013 - not taking part

[A-lister]

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No offense but I hope we will never see that emo kid ever again on an ESC stage

 

[A-lister]

Maybe a non- return is not set in stone afterall? Chances are narrow, but maybe we shouldn't have the title "not taking part" until it is 100% sure?

Czech Republic: No decision about Eurovision 2013 made! | ESCDaily.com || The latest Eurovision 2012 news from across Europe

 

[NikkiBoy]

Maybe Czech Republic will show Europe after all says "They will not be back" and "They are not interested" that CZ-TV will be back to show Europe they still think about ESC?

 

[nofuxCZ]

Maybe a non- return is not set in stone afterall? Chances are narrow, but maybe we shouldn't have the title "not taking part" until it is 100% sure?

Czech Republic: No decision about Eurovision 2013 made! | ESCDaily.com || The latest Eurovision 2012 news from across Europe

I think this is just giving people a false hope. Especially after spokesperson of ČT said several times that they really are not considering return in 2013. But hey, there is still plenty of time to turn that 'no' into a 'yes', so we'll have to wait and see

I really hope that Czech republic will participated after some pause in ESC 2013. Unfortunately CZ-SK duet is not allowed
F.e. like this We will always love you ....

Oh God Although I liked Martin in Czecho-Slovak Idol, I really don't like his post-Idol music. It's so oldfashioned.

I'd love to see something more folk-ish or more traditional. Maybe something like this? I'm not so sure if Europe would like this, but I really do!

 

[NikkiBoy]

Let's see! :-)

 

[A-lister]

Well, it's fully confirmed now (no surprise) that they will NOT take part:

esctoday.com » Blog Archive » Czech Republic won’t be in Malmo!

I will still don't get Czech constant opposition to this contest... oh well... no surprises, although I was hoping for a return.

 

[Matt]

For some reason I was unexpectedly hopeful and optimistic about their 2013 participation so I'm very disappointed and suprised about it cause it shouldn't come as a shock to me.

 

[A-lister]

For some reason I was unexpectedly hopeful and optimistic about their 2013 participation so I'm very disappointed and suprised about it cause it shouldn't come as a shock to me.

I actually felt the same way tbh, so while I'm not surprised, I still feel let-down because they indicated some hope.

Czech will go down in history as the biggest ESC haters of them all

I STILL have a hard time understand what even took them so long to enter in the first place. There are some theories presented in here, but I honestly don't find any logic in any of them, to me it will always remain a mystery.

 

[evija87]

They have to get back, so we would get back and we will create our small voting block with Slovakia to make it 3 ;P

 

[VikingTiger]

Really not a big surprise that Czhec Republic wont be going to Malmø. Obviously the interest is very low in the country. And the extremely poor results havent helped. It's a shame that the broadcaster hasnt managed to rise the publics interest, though.

 

[nofuxCZ]

Yeah, no surprises there, although I was also secretly hoping that we would come back. Hopefully we will make that "great" return in 2014. I've also noticed there is some increased interest in the contest (among public and the media as well - even though it might be because this year the contest took place in Azerbaijan). Nevertheless, I see more and more people defending the show (but still - most people hate it, but at least there is some hope that the image of ESC can get better).
I still can't see any of our artists doing good at Eurovision though Our mainstream music is not really good and the very few good acts just don't have the appeal to non-Czech/Slovak audience imho (that's my impression I get from people on the internet and from the various online song contests that I take part in).

I just hope Poland comes back next year and Slovakia stays and both send killer entries to prove that central European countries can be successful as well

 

[AdelAdel]

I STILL have a hard time understand what even took them so long to enter in the first place. There are some theories presented in here, but I honestly don't find any logic in any of them, to me it will always remain a mystery.

What were those theories?

 

[A-lister]

What were those theories?

Just some excuses that 'Czechs are more interested in sports and therefor focused to take part in sport shows instead'... as if no Czechs are interested in music and other countries doesn't take part in sport shows? I mean just because you enter one field, doesn't mean you can't take part in more at the same time.

There is actual no logical explanations to why Czech Republic did such a late debut.

 

[nofuxCZ]

Just some excuses that 'Czechs are more interested in sports and therefor focused to take part in sport shows instead'... as if no Czechs are interested in music and other countries doesn't take part in sport shows? I mean just because you enter one field, doesn't mean you can't take part in more at the same time.

There is actual no logical explanations to why Czech Republic did such a late debut.

• Czech TV focused more on other EBU projects - especially on Jeux sans frontières. This show was extremly popular here and it still carries the cult status.
• Czechs in general don't have the nationalistic need and pride to present themselves and promote our country to the whole world - that's a difference to Slovakia for example - their nation always struggled (under the Hungarians and then under the Czechs - at least that's what some Slovaks say), after the split of Czechoslovakia they had the perfect opportunity to finally present themselves as the independent Slovakia for the first time ever in the history.
• We've always been more oriented on rock and folk. You don't see many rock entries in the Eurovision. In last 10 years, the hip hop music has experienced a huge boom and I'm not afraid to call it as #1 genre here at the moment (apparently I am not the only one who sees that rap is big here -folks at Europopped have noticed this too ). Again, how many rap songs take part in ESC every year? Imho that's also one of the reasons Eurovision is not popular among our audience - I guess it's hard for some people to sit through an 2 hour show full of music they don't enjoy...
• Bad approach of Czechs to music in general, and to Czech music especially. If you ask any people here, they will tell you that our music sucks and they barely listen to any Czech singers.
• Ewa Farna in interview for one Czech mag:
  Q: What's the difference in approach to culture between us and Poland?
  A: From my own experience I know that they take everything more seriously there. For example, the preparations for big awards mean that every performer has its own stylist and team of people who take care of their looks and stage presence. Everybody looks perfect on the stage. Polish culture and music especially is more western-oriented, they look up more to the world. It's also important that there are much higher budgets for music and culture than here in the CR.

(I'm not sure if Poland is a good example though)

These are some of the reasons that might have affected our late debut in Eurovision. I think I'm repeating myself because I've already written something very similar on the previous pages. Of course that's just my opinion, this question should be directed to Czech TV because only they know why we didn't join earlier.

 

[A-lister]

[*] Czech TV focused more on other EBU projects - especially on Jeux sans frontières. This show was extremly popular here and it still carries the cult status.

Most countries/broadcasters take part in different EBU projects at the same time, that doesn't hinder them to take part in ESC aswell. Also, I don't see how Czech differs here? There will always be some public for different events, because not all people share the same interests.

[*] Czechs in general don't have the nationalistic need and pride to present themselves and promote our country to the whole world - that's a difference to Slovakia for example - their nation always struggled (under the Hungarians and then under the Czechs - at least that's what some Slovaks say), after the split of Czechoslovakia they had the perfect opportunity to finally present themselves as the independent Slovakia for the first time ever in the history.

Sweden is probably the least nationalist country in Europe and struggled even less than Czech Republic, yet ESC has been huge here for ages.

[*] We've always been more oriented on rock and folk. You don't see many rock entries in the Eurovision. In last 10 years, the hip hop music has experienced a huge boom and I'm not afraid to call it as #1 genre here at the moment (apparently I am not the only one who sees that rap is big here -folks at Europopped have noticed this too ). Again, how many rap songs take part in ESC every year? Imho that's also one of the reasons Eurovision is not popular among our audience - I guess it's hard for some people to sit through an 2 hour show full of music they don't enjoy...

Rock is the most popular genre in many markets, I mean hello Finland for instance! In Armenia HipHop is a big deal, and? Loreen's winning song was a hit in Czech Republic, so to say people can't enjoy the music in Eurovision is probably based on prejudices about Eurovision as a contest, and the exact same mindset about ESC can be found in various ESC countries aswell. And again, Czech Republic is not a homogeneous country, there's a potential public for everything.

[*]Bad approach of Czechs to music in general, and to Czech music especially. If you ask any people here, they will tell you that our music sucks and they barely listen to any Czech singers.

I bet this is not only an issue in Czech Republic, and the international (mostly US-driven) music scene is the most common in most European countries.

[*] Ewa Farna in interview for one Czech mag:
Q: What's the difference in approach to culture between us and Poland?
A: From my own experience I know that they take everything more seriously there. For example, the preparations for big awards mean that every performer has its own stylist and team of people who take care of their looks and stage presence. Everybody looks perfect on the stage. Polish culture and music especially is more western-oriented, they look up more to the world. It's also important that there are much higher budgets for music and culture than here in the CR.

The approach to the culture/music industry differs from country to country, but I doubt poor small countries such as Moldova, Montenegro or Slovenia (to name some) could differ that much.

(I'm not sure if Poland is a good example though)

These are some of the reasons that might have affected our late debut in Eurovision. I think I'm repeating myself because I've already written something very similar on the previous pages. Of course that's just my opinion, this question should be directed to Czech TV because only they know why we didn't join earlier.

Well, of course this is a question that should be answered by Czech TV, and I think no one is really expecting you to have any answers on this since you're obviously not responsible for this, still interesting to see your point of view.

Thing is though, I don't really see any logical explanations in any of those things you mentioned, because the same can be said about other countries. There will always be some public interest for something like ESC, I don't think Czech differs here because you're not some alien sort of country with a whole different culture than the rest. Even tiny countries with less potential public take part in this or countries which have very little public support (Poland is one of those).

 

[AdelAdel]

Thing is though, I don't really see any logical explanations in any of those things you mentioned, because the same can be said about other countries. There will always be some public interest for something like ESC, I don't think Czech differs here because you're not some alien sort of country with a whole different culture than the rest. Even tiny countries with less potential public take part in this or countries which have very little public support (Poland is one of those).

From what I heard, Czech Republic is pretty different than the rest of ex-communist European states. When it comes to mentality, it is no different than most western countries, including the +80% non-religious people. No other eastern country is like that.

PS. A-lister, since when Poland is a "tiny" country? 3

 

[A-lister]

From what I heard, Czech Republic is pretty different than the rest of ex-communist European states. When it comes to mentality, it is no different than most western countries, including the +80% non-religious people. No other eastern country is like that.

PS. A-lister, since when Poland is a "tiny" country? 3

Well, Sweden is very similar to Czech Republic in regards to nationalism and religion, but we still take part? And with this logic, very few western countries should take part in this? I don't really see how this somehow could explain Czech's apathy towards ESC? It's like saying only conservative religious countries would want to take part in ESC?

If you read the sentence again I wrote: Even tiny countries with less potential public take part in this or countries which have very little public support (Poland is one of those) <- not the "or", and with "little public support" I refer to the lack of public interest for ESC, not the amount of general public.

 

[AdelAdel]

Well, Sweden is very similar to Czech Republic in regards to nationalism and religion, but we still take part? And with this logic, very few western countries should take part in this? I don't really see how this somehow could explain Czech's apathy towards ESC? It's like saying only conservative religious countries would want to take part in ESC?

I wasn't referring to ESC in my post, but to the fact that CR is different from other eastern countries - you wrote that you can't see any differences.

 

[A-lister]

I wasn't referring to ESC in my post, but to the fact that CR is different from other eastern countries - you wrote that you can't see any differences.

I meant generally from rest of Europe, of course there's differences between all countries, but I can't see such REVOLVING differences between Czech Republic from the rest explaining the apathy towards ESC. I know Czech differs from most of the other ex- communist countries though, but in this very context (ESC) I can't see how that really would matter that much.

 

[nofuxCZ]

Sweden is probably the least nationalist country in Europe and struggled even less than Czech Republic, yet ESC has been huge here for ages.

It's true our countries are very similar regarding nationalism and religion. The difference is that Sweden has a long and very successful Eurovision history. It's a tradition. The whole family watches Eurovision, small kids watch it because their parents like it and have watched it for many years. Or am I wrong? This "tradition" is missing here. ESC fan bases in Sweden and other western European countries have been built for decades. I think Eurovision would not be as huge if you joined in late 00's. Other countries which joined later (mostly eastern/south-eastern) also don't have this tradition, but they are pushed and motivated by their national pride.

We need to start this "tradition" here first and build the fanbase. But it's impossible because our broadcaster doesn't want to take part in this and the few hundreds or thousands of ESC fans here are not able to change public opinion, without the help of medias.

Loreen's winning song was a hit in Czech Republic, so to say people can't enjoy the music in Eurovision is probably based on prejudices about Eurovision as a contest, and the exact same mindset about ESC can be found in various ESC countries aswell. And again, Czech Republic is not a homogeneous country, there's a potential public for everything.

Euphoria is the most successful Eurovision song here ever. I wasn't trying to say that people can't enjoy any Eurovision song, but I think they don't enjoy most of the songs. Loreen's song has given me a hope for our return.