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Who do you THINK will win ESC 2018?

EvNickGR

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Estonia? France? I would love to see ESC in Nicosia, so Cyprus could do it too!
 

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I think history contradicts this statement xshrug, if anything I could see this top. 3 with the televoters, but juries will block them for simply being the boring party poopers they always were xshrug

I have to disagree with you about that. How many songs like 'Fuego' have done well with the public recently? :pt: 2017, :ru: 2016, :it: 2015, :at: 2014, :dk: 2013. All public winners but none are really 'bangers'. Even if we look at the top 3 with the public each year, the only songs that might fit that status are :md: 2017 and :se: 2015

I think public opinion on Eurovision has changed a lot in recent years. It's not like the 2000s where you could put a sexy man/woman on stage with an upbeat dance tube and almost guarantee top 3 (:ua: 2004, :gr: 2005, :gr: 2008, :am: 2008, :tr: 2009 etc.) The public just don't vote the same way anymore. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to you but I certainly wouldn't say recent history points towards Cyprus doing well.
 

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My thoughts on the top 10 bookmakers
:il: doesn't look like a winner performance but that wouldn't be the first time, song is great, personnality is here. High chances to win, depending of which songs are surrounded by the act in the finale and position
:no: Pleasant song but imho not enough of a "wow effect" to make people vote for him, not a winner performance too, it's just great but just there, Israël has a better song, Estonia has a better charisma, France has a better package.
:ee: I still think this could stay in the semi. For opera to succeed it has to be simple and Estonia did pull a specific staging that may lower her chances to win, the skirt/dress looked very odd to me the first time and i'm getting distracted, maybe too sophisticated for what whould have been a perfect opera-like simple performance. Still this could pull some strings and even the winner performance isn't there yet, I think the moment could be there during the finale, has far higher chances to win than Norway, very memorable.
:fr: as above, not a winner performance yet, but as Estonia, the moment could be there with the hands "waving" thing they're doing at the end and could come across the TV and make people vote for it. I would say the song is not as good as Toy, the performance not as sleek as Norway and not charismatic as Elena but they're the most "relatable" and "real" of the four above which could make them win based on average score. They're in the right middle if I can say that.
:cz: I don't think it has a chance to win, that's the less likely to me and his injury did not help him at all (but even without I can't see this winning, can't explain why it's just my feeling)

:cy: :bg: :se: :md: :it:
I think, Cyprus and Sweden here have the best shots, songs alike Fuego ou DYO already won in the past, both performances are really good my only question is : Are they gonna be strong enough to beat the 4(5) others acts above ? Not so sure.
Moldova won't win 100%, not even sure this is gonna qualify based on the song alone and don't know if the hilarous staging will save this. There is something about Italy, as Czech Republic, I can't figure out why but I can't see this winning, well that could still happen ofc (for both of them) just the chances are thin. Song is cool, both performers are charismatic but Francesco had a better package and reached 6th (even with the finale staging). Last but not least Bulgaria is another performance that could stay in the semi for me, there is just something completely disconnected about them and other countries beat them in so many areas : Estonia is more powerful, France has a better alchemy and a more real feeling, Norway is just more prepared, Czech Republic has more charisma, Israel Cyprus and Sweden are more enjoyable. The song is right, performers can sing their asses off but there is nothing happening.

I'd say 7 to 8 acts out of those 10 can win. I won't rule out some countries that are not appearing in the bookies 10 such as Austria, Germany, Portugal and Hungary.
 

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Yeah for now, the ones I can see winning based on the rehearsal footage are :cz:, :se:, :ee: or :fr:. I think Elena connected much better with the camera in the rehearsal footage, while I can see Benjamin and Mikolas both could be compromise winners if the televoters and the juries has different winners. MM maybe could prove popular in the western countries, but giving how controversial the subject of their song actually is, especially in the east, their victory chances will really depend on how well they perform during night.
 

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I have to disagree with you about that. How many songs like 'Fuego' have done well with the public recently? :pt: 2017, :ru: 2016, :it: 2015, :at: 2014, :dk: 2013. All public winners but none are really 'bangers'. Even if we look at the top 3 with the public each year, the only songs that might fit that status are :md: 2017 and :se: 2015

I think public opinion on Eurovision has changed a lot in recent years. It's not like the 2000s where you could put a sexy man/woman on stage with an upbeat dance tube and almost guarantee top 3 (:ua: 2004, :gr: 2005, :gr: 2008, :am: 2008, :tr: 2009 etc.) The public just don't vote the same way anymore. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to you but I certainly wouldn't say recent history points towards Cyprus doing well.

I think you look at it from the wrong perspective, as you just pointed out the public did indeed support such entries in the past, but what happened after 2009? The juries were brought in, and we saw a sharp decline in such entries which left the public with no such alternatives any longer, hence the "no vote", but I think history shows that Europe actually enjoy some good booty shaking bangers (if there are any such options and if they are good enough), but with the juries downgrading such entries every year, we rarely see those anymore.

We'll have to wait until we see the split vote, but something tells me the public will like this, maybe not a top. 3 but still good enough, while the juries will (like they tend to) downgrade it, which is why I don't see this as a winner candidate (unfortunately).
 

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I'd actually like :cz: winning the most at the moment, being part of the Eurovision family for so short amount of time, I think it'll definitely boost the image of the contest in Czechia. Plus Prague is an amazing city. Side note, I absolutely cannot stand "Lie to Me" :?.
 

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I'd actually like :cz: winning the most at the moment, being part of the Eurovision family for so short amount of time, I think it'll definitely boost the image of the contest in Czechia. Plus Prague is an amazing city. Side note, I absolutely cannot stand "Lie to Me" :?.

Wait, so you want :cz: to win but can't stand their entry? Makes absolutely no sense to me xshrug , and here I thought it was a song contest, not a "country contest"... I don't think a country should win just because they didn't so far, they have to earn it like everyone else. Czechia might have sent their best entry to date (not a difficult task if you look at their previous ones), but that alone shouldn't be a reason for them to win, it's still by far no the best entry of the year, a generic and flat homemade version of Jason Derulo's "Talk Dirty"? That's all? If they come back and actually slay and have an entry that is worthy top. 10 (at minimum), then they might deserve it, this is not the year however.
 

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Wait, so you want :cz: to win but can't stand their entry? Makes absolutely no sense to me xshrug , and here I thought it was a song contest, not a "country contest"... I don't think a country should win just because they didn't so far, they have to earn it like everyone else. Czechia might have sent their best entry to date (not a difficult task if you look at their previous ones), but that alone shouldn't be a reason for them to win, it's still by far no the best entry of the year, a generic and flat homemade version of Jason Derulo's "Talk Dirty"? That's all? If they come back and actually slay and have an entry that is worthy top. 10 (at minimum), then they might deserve it, this is not the year however.

Did you forget that we technically won with a carbon copy of David Guetta's "Lovers On the Sun" despite coming 3rd with the televote? I don't believe for a second that Czech Republic is gonna win, but this looks really hypocritical :lol:
 

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Did you forget that we technically won with a carbon copy of David Guetta's "Lovers On the Sun" despite coming 3rd with the televote? I don't believe for a second that Czech Republic is gonna win, but this looks really hypocritical :lol:

I don't think it's gonna win, but my point wasn't if someone predicts it to win or even wants it to win, that's their opinions, but to say you dislike the entry yet want it to win because of the country xshrug
 

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I don't think it's gonna win, but my point wasn't if someone predicts it to win or even wants it to win, that's their opinions, but to say you dislike the entry yet want it to win because of the country xshrug

I dislike very few entries and still wouldn't be mad if either of them won. It's not something paradoxal. If they have made an effort that can threaten other contenders, then that might be just enough for you to want the country to win. I wouldn't mind a country winning if they hadn't hosted either.
 

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I dislike very few entries and still wouldn't be mad if either of them won. It's not something paradoxal. If they have made an effort that can threaten other contenders, then that might be just enough for you to want the country to win. I wouldn't mind a country winning if they hadn't hosted either.

So you'd like an entry to win that you totally dislike? Now that doesn't make sense to me. Now [MENTION=14117]0scar[/MENTION] didn't say that he found the entry so-so but is ok with it winning for other reasons, he said that he "absolutely cannot stand the entry". Now, if you'd predict an entry to win that you cannot stand is one thing, but to support an entry you cannot stand that's something else, truly paradoxical and contrary to the purpose of the contest no?
 

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I might not have expressed myself well enough I guess. I have sympathy for the Czech, so I would enjoy seeing them winning. The scenario where a pretty 'new to Eurovision', 'not experienced' contender wins appeals to me. Yes, I do not like "Lie to Me" so ofcourse I'd be supporting other countries to win, but I wouldn't be mad about :cz: winning either.

It's kinda hard to explain I guess, I do not get a 100% myself either haha
 

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After Eesti Laul, I said that :ee: was the only one out of all the entries that gave me the feeling of a winner. I still feel like that to some degree. Then again, I'm never good at predicting winners, so it probably doesn't mean much. This year is incredibly open.
 

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I might not have expressed myself well enough I guess. I have sympathy for the Czech, so I would enjoy seeing them winning. The scenario where a pretty 'new to Eurovision', 'not experienced' contender wins appeals to me. Yes, I do not like "Lie to Me" so ofcourse I'd be supporting other countries to win, but I wouldn't be mad about :cz: winning either.

It's kinda hard to explain I guess, I do not get a 100% myself either haha

Ok, well, each to their own... I could never support an entry which I dislike myself based on sympathy, then we'd have awful winners almost every year :lol:

At least in my logic a country should only win if they deserve so, there are cases with countries that tried for decades without a win (Portugal for instance), and some of those tries they were truly underrated which could create a sense of sympathy towards them, as for Czechia they are still pretty fresh and frankly they never tried hard enough so not sure why they suddenly would deserve to win when they send something so-so rather than something awful, but maybe I don't get your point correctly :lol:
 

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Gonna give this to :it: for now... xheat It's such an open field this year and with their surprising staging the could really make it!
 

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Ok, well, each to their own... I could never support an entry which I dislike myself based on sympathy, then we'd have awful winners almost every year :lol:

At least in my logic a country should only win if they deserve so, there are cases with countries that tried for decades without a win (Portugal for instance), and some of those tries they were truly underrated which could create a sense of sympathy towards them, as for Czechia they are still pretty fresh and frankly they never tried hard enough so not sure why they suddenly would deserve to win when they send something so-so rather than something awful, but maybe I don't get your point correctly :lol:

That's your opinion not all of us think Czechs entry is so so some of us really like it. It's the first Czech entry that I've liked at eurovision.
 
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