UNITED KINGDOM 2010 - Josh Dubovie - That Sounds Good to Me

[MyHeartIsYours]

No it should be X Factor style

 

[Metaller]

By the way, I wonder what would've happened if Scooter had represented Germany (I think they tried in 2004 or so).

Yeah, they were second to Max Mutzke in the NF back then.

I think they might have placed around the same as Max, considering they had (still have?) quite some fans around different countries in Europe. However, it is also possible that it would have ended in (another) disaster.

At least, although not really my taste, it would have been something really different in the ESC (I don't think there was such a hard techno (?) band at the ESC yet, although I might be wrong, I'm not the best ESC historician).

But I was quite happy with Max and his position in the top 10.

 

[AdrianW]

Yes, this is the first year that both media and some brits are showing some realisation that we don't really hate you guys, just the awful songs you chose to torture us with...

That's heartwarming, but please satisfy my curiosity: what's the appeal of coming here to discuss the worst entry? If I wasn't British, I'd be elsewhere discussing some of the better ones!

And to be fair, the UK have provided at least 2 good songs in the last 8 years, and even the worst ones are more boring than tortuous!

 

[evilperson]

No surprised, everything I expected to happen with the UK this year happened unfortunately.

 

[Margerita86]

Yes, this is the first year that both media and some brits are showing some realisation that we don't really hate you guys, just the awful songs you chose to torture us with...

That's heartwarming, but please satisfy my curiosity: what's the appeal of coming here to discuss the worst entry? If I wasn't British, I'd be elsewhere discussing some of the better ones!

And to be fair, the UK have provided at least 2 good songs in the last 8 years, and even the worst ones are more boring than tortuous!

Because most of want to discuss what went wrong for you guys and how to fix it. We are having the same discussion in the Swedish thread where some of really want to look over our selection process.

 

[Deltage]

By the way, I wonder what would've happened if Scooter had represented Germany (I think they tried in 2004 or so).

Yeah, they were second to Max Mutzke in the NF back then.

I think they might have placed around the same as Max, considering they had (still have?) quite some fans around different countries in Europe. However, it is also possible that it would have ended in (another) disaster.

At least, although not really my taste, it would have been something really different in the ESC (I don't think there was such a hard techno (?) band at the ESC yet, although I might be wrong, I'm not the best ESC historician).

But I was quite happy with Max and his position in the top 10.

I'm pretty sure there hasn't been one, as I've mostly cared about only those ESC songs that are similar to my favorite music, rather than listen to all the songs carefully, and since I listen to electronic music I think I would have noticed it. Unless there was something before 1996 I started to watch ESC but I doubt it since ESC is really slow on picking up on new music genres and styles (even rock music has just recently started to make an impact). Although Scooter isn't exactly the kind of electronic music I like.

 

[Metaller]

I'm pretty sure there hasn't been one, as I've mostly cared about only those ESC songs that are similar to my favorite music, rather than listen to all the songs carefully, and since I listen to electronic music I think I would have noticed it. Unless there was something before 1996 I started to watch ESC but I doubt it since ESC is really slow on picking up on new music genres and styles (even rock music has just recently started to make an impact). Although Scooter isn't exactly the kind of electronic music I like.

Besides my passion for Metal, I quite like myself a bit of Dark Wave, Ambient or Minimal electro. I would for sure like to see such an act at the ESC. But I think that most artists in those genres would not be very interested to participate, second they would very likely not qualify in national finals and third, if by some miracle, they make it to ESC they very likely would stay in the semis. :?

 

[bashers]

Lena had a platinum single with Satellite two months before the contest...therefore this is a pretty good bases for success afterwards. Lena (so a VT told us in the UK on the big night) explained that she has been a popstar for 3 years....

We only work with what weve been given so Im sorry if im incorrect. Still, a platinum single obviously helps with confidence! Look at Greece's entrant and Serbia's! Those guys had over 15 albums between them...so...

I am SO glad that most of us in the UK believe it was the song NOT Josh that did wrong. And this is the BBC's fault alone. It was not the general public because we didnt choose the song, just the artist. We certainly picked the best guy for the job, just not the best songwriter which we had no control over, unfortunately!

 

[Margerita86]

While it might be possible that Lena has been in the music industry for about 3 years, she was as far as I've heard of totally unknown to the public.

Regarding Greece and Serbia, Milan has always been very confident. But it must be the Greek guy, Giorgios who has had 14 albums then because Milan has only one so far.

 

[Deltage]

I'm guessing she has been singing or writing songs or something, but hasn't done any or much professional work ("professional" in the sense of having actually released material or even hits, not that unknown artists can't also be professional).

 

[Margerita86]

I'm guessing she has been singing or writing songs or something, but hasn't done any or much professional work ("professional" in the sense of having actually released material or even hits, not that unknown artists can't also be professional).

Yes, that was what I meant she could have been involved in the industry for that long, but she sure wasn't know to the public before she took part of Germany's selecetion. There are many great artist out there that are unknown even in their own country.

 

[uk....winner]

I see Lorraine Kelly has said that UK wouldn't win no matter who they had singing *yawn*.

Does anybody know if Morrissey is still keen on ESC?

 

[Margerita86]

I see Lorraine Kelly has said that UK wouldn't win no matter who they had singing *yawn*.

Does anybody know if Morrissey is still keen on ESC?

I hope he is! It would be such an interesting choice!

 

[AdrianW]

I see Lorraine Kelly has said that UK wouldn't win no matter who they had singing *yawn*.

Does anybody know if Morrissey is still keen on ESC?

I hope he is! It would be such an interesting choice!

Although I wouldn't claim to be a big fan of his, I'd be all for him taking part as I expect he's popular in many European countries and I'm sure he could come up with a quality song. However, I'd still think that any contribution from him should go through a selection process, as the lack of one allows disasters like this year's song to get through.

 

[uk....winner]

Does everyone think it'll be the usual march preselection?

 

[Samb]

Well there is not 'usual' preselection for the contest as far as structure, they usually mix it up with dieren variations on the theme of narrow and closed selection processes, followed by a tokenistic televote. No way does it ever reflect any variety of music. As for the date of March, I would support earlier in the year in order for more preparations to take place.

I couldn't care if Morrissey was interested, tbh - and I say that as a massive Smiths fan. If so, he would probably be a lock for being selected - not by the public, but by BBC Executives. The public should decide who we send, and what song to send as well, rather than us picking one from half a dozen to it around a pre-written song that we had no choice in accepting or rejecting.

 

[uk....winner]

I'm sure that there used to be a member on here who personally knew someone high up at the BBC with regards to Eurovision. I'm sure the BBC workers name was Dominic... Anyway, let's hope that he's having a crafty look on here

 

[Matt]

London, United Kingdom -

After another disappointing result for the United Kingdom in this years Eurovision Song Contest, the British press reflected today on a third last place in the last eight years of competing in Europe's Favourite TV Show.

Prior to the competition, composers Pete Waterman and Mike Stock admitted that they thought it was highly unlikely that the United Kingdom could win the contest, however Josh Dubovie remained professional and upbeat throughout his time in Oslo and in almost every quarter won praise for his attitude and the way he conducted himself throughout his time in Norway.
We cannot argue with the voting

BBC Radio 2 commentator, Ken Bruce paid tribute to Josh by saying "Josh is a terrific guy, and a great performer, but you cannot argue with the voting. In years gone by you could have done, but not now as each country has 50% of it's votes decided by a professional jury, and Germany managed to win after many years of disappointing results."

The Daily Mail newspaper featured a large article which mainly focused on the fact that the United Kingdom had finished last twice in the last three years, and three times in the past eight years, and summarised by saying "The public and the experts of Europe were united, we were rubbish." The article was more critical about the song itself rather than singer Josh, citing that the song That Sounds Good To Me just wasn't good enough for the competition.

The Daily Express made an interesting comparison to the 1974 Eurovision Song Contest, saying that although Germany may have finished in last place in Europe's Favourite TV Show that year, West Germany did go on to win the Football World Cup that summer, and maybe after the United Kingdom's last place in this years contest, England could go on to score a victory in South Africa in the World Cup!.

Digital Spy highlighted the early viewing figures from the weekend indicated that BBC viewing figures were down on previous years, and it could have been one of the lowest and most disappointing sets of viewing figures in recent times, although the BBC has not confirmed this yet.

Last year in Moscow, Jade Ewen restored some pride for the United Kingdom by finishing in fifth place with the
Andrew Lloyd Webber and Diane Warren composition It's My Time. After returning to last place in Oslo, there is a lot of speculation in the United Kingdom as to what the approach of broadcaster the BBC will be for 2011.

 

[AlexG]

If the BBC really WERE serious about winning it, I think they would have gone through the same format as last year, with about 4 weeks of show, but this year it was just the one again. I think it's because the UK wanted to put on a big show for the Russians in order not to lose face there, whereas in Norway, they didn't really have an urgent need to display any bravado, so back to usual.

Next year in Germany will be interesting - does the BBC want to make a good impression there like in Moscow, or a half-hearted effort like this year?

Personally, I'd like to see a 6-to-10-episode "Fame Academy"-style show where singers and songwriters get together and try to come up with a perfect song in a week, with the least voted-for eliminated, and a new song dreamed up for the week after. The 2 winning acts perform the three best songs they wrote (so six in total) with the winning song selected by televote and jury.

It won't happen though, because the BBC is too busy in the winter with Strictly Come Dancing and Masterchef SOOC

 

[Sim]

If the BBC really WERE serious about winning it, I think they would have gone through the same format as last year, with about 4 weeks of show, but this year it was just the one again. I think it's because the UK wanted to put on a big show for the Russians in order not to lose face there, whereas in Norway, they didn't really have an urgent need to display any bravado, so back to usual.

Next year in Germany will be interesting - does the BBC want to make a good impression there like in Moscow, or a half-hearted effort like this year?

Personally, I'd like to see a 6-to-10-episode "Fame Academy"-style show where singers and songwriters get together and try to come up with a perfect song in a week, with the least voted-for eliminated, and a new song dreamed up for the week after. The 2 winning acts perform the three best songs they wrote (so six in total) with the winning song selected by televote and jury.

It won't happen though, because the BBC is too busy in the winter with Strictly Come Dancing and Masterchef SOOC

I like Masterchef