Re: Paint the planet
I showed the sample sentences only between Hungarian and Turkish because I strongly believe there is a tight connection between them, and the main idea was to show the suffixes in the sentences but it's my bad, I forgot to do it.
I agree with your reply in most parts.
I know, it's almost impossible to believe the Japanese, Finnish and Turks are related, considering their looks, but their predecessors might be the same or related, and I mean wayyy back. I believe that Hungarians and Bulgarians descend from Central Asian Turks(as for the Bulgarians, I'm not the only one to think so), but they assimilated so much that many of them have blonde hair and blue eyes today, and they have no Turkic blood (nor do the Anatolian Turks, to be honest ). Therefore, I have no idea what the ancestors of the Finno-Ugric and Altaic people looked like, but I know and believe that the ancestors of these nations had many things in common.
Linguists are 100% sure that Indo-European languages are related but I see mannnny differences between their grammar rules, though this doesn't change the fact that they were much more similiar in the past.
I see much more similarities between Finno-Ugric languages and Turkish than between Albanian and Indian, for instance.
Hence, I don't think we need volumes of encyclopedia to confirm these languages are(or maybe were) related.
I don't think they would adapt words like "I, You, We, He/She, This, There etc." what so ever, unlike the Finno-Ugric languages.
I'm not well-informed enough to give you a systematic account, maybe in the future when I grow up.
The only proof I can show you is that the Japanese struggle to learn English, their government invests ALOT in English education, however, in Turkish learning courses, the Japanese and Korean students are the most successful. I once saw a random Korean guy on TV in a competition who became a native speaker in 6 months, I'm still not a native English speaker though I've been learning it for 8 years. Not only this guy but I see many(really many ) Japanese people who learn to speak Turkish like their mother tongue in a very short amount of time.
Additionally, I personally find Finnish so easy, I was so surprised when I heard European people say Finnish is one of the hardest languages. I learned to make sentences in Finnish using Google Translate. I couldn't find a book anywhere. But I'm better than an European friend of mine who's been learning it for 2 years.
And I think a Hungarian (Estonian or Finn etc.) is much luckier while learning Turkish or Mongolian or any other Altaic language.
P.s. I know this is not a systematic proof AT ALL, but I'm too young to be a linguist and give you a scientific report.
Nope, unfortunately not. :/ I'm just a random guy from Turkey who's interested in linguistics.
Hopefully in the future I'll be. ^^
As for the sample sentences, I wouldn't rely heavily on those to prove relationships, sure commonalities exist, but that would be a very weak set of evidence without more substantial rule based relationships
I showed the sample sentences only between Hungarian and Turkish because I strongly believe there is a tight connection between them, and the main idea was to show the suffixes in the sentences but it's my bad, I forgot to do it.
I agree with your reply in most parts.
I know, it's almost impossible to believe the Japanese, Finnish and Turks are related, considering their looks, but their predecessors might be the same or related, and I mean wayyy back. I believe that Hungarians and Bulgarians descend from Central Asian Turks(as for the Bulgarians, I'm not the only one to think so), but they assimilated so much that many of them have blonde hair and blue eyes today, and they have no Turkic blood (nor do the Anatolian Turks, to be honest ). Therefore, I have no idea what the ancestors of the Finno-Ugric and Altaic people looked like, but I know and believe that the ancestors of these nations had many things in common.
Linguists are 100% sure that Indo-European languages are related but I see mannnny differences between their grammar rules, though this doesn't change the fact that they were much more similiar in the past.
I see much more similarities between Finno-Ugric languages and Turkish than between Albanian and Indian, for instance.
Hence, I don't think we need volumes of encyclopedia to confirm these languages are(or maybe were) related.
No doubt for that. Ottomans ruled over the Balkans for centuries and even today there are many Turkish words in Serbian, Albanian, Greek etc. but these are not high frequency words AT ALL.I completely agree with the part about how they may have been similar waaaay back. I mean, the area occupied by Finno-Ugric speakers and Turkic-Altaic speakers have an overlap. So, I wouldn't doubt that there were contact between these two language groups before, and the examples you showed shows relics of this past contact.
I don't think they would adapt words like "I, You, We, He/She, This, There etc." what so ever, unlike the Finno-Ugric languages.
For me to accept those evidence towards a formation of language family, there has to be a systematic account to show the relationship and the drift between these languages. Without that, it would be hard to convince linguists to accept them as related. That's mostly why the macro family encompassing Turkic, Altaic, Korean and Japonic languages were dismissed.
I'm not well-informed enough to give you a systematic account, maybe in the future when I grow up.
The only proof I can show you is that the Japanese struggle to learn English, their government invests ALOT in English education, however, in Turkish learning courses, the Japanese and Korean students are the most successful. I once saw a random Korean guy on TV in a competition who became a native speaker in 6 months, I'm still not a native English speaker though I've been learning it for 8 years. Not only this guy but I see many(really many ) Japanese people who learn to speak Turkish like their mother tongue in a very short amount of time.
Additionally, I personally find Finnish so easy, I was so surprised when I heard European people say Finnish is one of the hardest languages. I learned to make sentences in Finnish using Google Translate. I couldn't find a book anywhere. But I'm better than an European friend of mine who's been learning it for 2 years.
And I think a Hungarian (Estonian or Finn etc.) is much luckier while learning Turkish or Mongolian or any other Altaic language.
P.s. I know this is not a systematic proof AT ALL, but I'm too young to be a linguist and give you a scientific report.
Are you a linguist by any chance?
Nope, unfortunately not. :/ I'm just a random guy from Turkey who's interested in linguistics.
Hopefully in the future I'll be. ^^