The Overrated and Underrated of 2018

[0scar]

Overrated:
Underrated:

 

[Kruto]

underrated

overrated:

 

[Preuss]

I think Sweden deserved a better outcome with the televoters last year so I'll add him in the "underrated" category, although I see quite many people here thinks otherwise
May I ask if your opinions are solely on the jury score he got, or televote as well?

Edit: or just the placing he got overall?

 

[Sammy]

Overrated :
Underrated:

 

[aef]

Overrated:
Underrated:

 

[SaladBreak]

Overrated:
Underrated:

 

[94ayd]

Overrated:
Underrated:

Agree with everything apart from & .

 

[DenizESC]

I love how Sweden is listed by so many as 'overrated' 2

 

[mauve]

I love how Sweden is listed by so many as 'overrated' 2

Well … COMPLETELY overrated by the TELEVOTERS, what did you think?

 

[Realest]

Can someone from the swedophobes here bring some facts why was apparently overrated? Nohate of course, Im just curious.

 

[Preuss]

For the same reasons why you find other entries overrated

 

[Realest]

For the same reasons why you find other entries overrated

And those are?

 

[Preuss]

The whole bunch of entries you posted earlier in this thread lol

 

[Realest]

I meant the reasons, not the entries

 

[Preuss]

Like you said; it’s an opinion thread - their opinions about Sweden differs from yours (and mine to be fair)
Sure I believe some people exagerrate it a bit but Benjamin’s never been popular within these forums

 

[Realest]

Yes, I know its their opinion, but thats why Im curious. I wanna find out why Countries like Sweden who love Eurovision and try their best to improve Eurovisions quality,are among the most hated Countries by the Fandom, while Countries like f.e. Macedonia who hate Eurovision from the Bottom of their Heart and try their Best to reduce Eurovisions Quality are so popular.

 

[aef]

Yes, I know its their opinion, but thats why Im curious. I wanna find out why Countries like Sweden who love Eurovision and try their best to improve Eurovisions quality,are among the most hated Countries by the Fandom, while Countries like f.e. Macedonia who hate Eurovision from the Bottom of their Heart and try their Best to reduce Eurovisions Quality are so popular.

I'm sorry but this posting is nonsense in my opinion. First, I dare to say that nobody here hates as a country - neither concerning Eurovision nor in real life. Sometimes is personal taste, sometimes it's the Swedish kind of over-produced music that some people dislike. In my case I truly hate last years entry because of the cockiness of both Benjamin and the song itself, the Michael Jackson-esque concept (I really REALLY hate MJ), the staging, the music video, Benjamins Voice,... Enough reasons?

And doesn't hate Eurovision, what a silly, useless comment. I'd say that the delegation tried quite hard in the past two years songwise but then (like always) completely failed when it came to staging...

 

[Realest]

I'm sorry but this posting is nonsense in my opinion. First, I dare to say that nobody here hates as a country - neither concerning Eurovision nor in real life. Sometimes is personal taste, sometimes it's the Swedish kind of over-produced music that some people dislike. In my case I truly hate last years entry because of the cockiness of both Benjamin and the song itself, the Michael Jackson-esque concept (I really REALLY hate MJ), the staging, the music video, Benjamins Voice,... Enough reasons?

And doesn't hate Eurovision, what a silly, useless comment. I'd say that the delegation tried quite hard in the past two years songwise but then (like always) completely failed when it came to staging...

Sweden sent 3 years in a row successful Entries who ended up in the Top10 plus survived outside Eurovision and invented new performance concepts which never existed before and still got more 0s than 12s three years in a row in the poll and you really want to tell me that noone hates sweden? Do you really think Benjamin would receive the same hate if he represented another country? This is totally senseless. Also Im pretty sure the majority loves MJ and still gave him 0.
Meanwhile Macedonia sent successless songs which dont survive outside ESC with bad singers and/or performances like 2013,2014,2015, 2017 and 2018 which arent nearly on the level of an international Competitionand still slay al those polls. This is ridiculous imo and the reason why I was asking why Sweden is so strongly hated (yes, it is a hate).

 

[Preuss]

First of all; let me say that every performance is unique in their own way Like I’m pretty sure that we’ve never seen anyone using mannequin dolls on stage like Romania this year! Even though Blance might indirectly have been the first To be fair, I haven’t heard any of Sweden’s last songs on the radio or anywhere really lol. And this argument that «songs survive outside Eurovision» sounds rather arrogant to me - maybe they do in your world

I believe that Frans, Robin or Benjamin wouldn’t get that much «hate» if they represented another country - I think more people would’ve been utterly positive if they represented a country which hasn’t the same track-record as Sweden in the competition. It’s the same about you and Australia as you’ve confessed multiple times that you dislike their entries because of the country. Sure some ESC fans think the same way about Sweden. Not saying that a majority does hate on Sweden because it’s Sweden, but it definitely exists. Like, I haven’t seen many people raving about the fact that Azerbaijan hires Swedes lately as their results have dropped

I mean, if you show the performances and songs of Sweden and for example Macedonia to non ESC-fans, more people would’ve preferred Sweden I believe. So you have some good points in your post but then you’re hating on Macedonian entries as well so I find it hard to find any credibility in you

 

[mauve]

aef pretty much summed it up wonderfully. That you, realest, think that people here hate the country Sweden in ESC is pure nonsense. I hate no country, but just couldn't stand Benjamin's song. This year, for example, I am keeping my fingers crossed for Bergendahl (and hope she has a great song). And just because Benjamin is successful, doesn't mean that his song is good or not. Everyone has his/her taste and we are surely allowed to express our opinions. Sometimes I have the feeling that you are not only addicted to Benjamin, but also allow no other opinions than yours what Benjamin is concerned.

P.S. As for Macedonia, I didn't like the song 2018, but loved the staging. They put a lot of effort in it, so don't tell us they hate Eurovision.