SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. RESULTS NOW (FROM P 27)

[SpZ]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

Anywayzzz time for some questions.

1. Simon: Did you do any move at all int the game. From what I can see your strategic game was totally 0 and backfired every time. No strategy - nothing at all. So why did you do anything at all to win the game. (being popular and spending time on games does not count)

2. Conor: Name all of the instances I did not agree with you or the general alliance decision.

3. Martin: Yeah I'm ignoring you as you are not even claiming to win.

And a question to both Simon and Conor to see how much you really paid attention: Why did i suck in the games?

 

[Simon87]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

1. The answer is simple - i only whanted to show that people can do much more than other expected. When this game started i didnt give my maximum beacuse it was the time when we still were a team and i didnt find myself vulnerable. As for strategy, everyone can see that when we came in to "dangerous" zone, everything that was part of my strategy became a good weapon against the other team. I only played this game first of all to feel team work, then to see how far people ambitions can go, and of course i am a fan of Survivor.

2. I couldnt say that you didnt care about this game. It must be a part of your strategy or something. I am sure that if you whanted you would done much better in challenges we had. As for sincerity between us, i think i proved that and also i dont expect from you to vote for a member of opposite team in this case for me. That could be surprise, but if i learned something from this game is that everything is possible.

Tnx for your questions!

 

[My Star]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

How come there are no questions/speechs, etc. Well, I don't really have to ask anything. All I have to say is no one but Natalia deserves to win. Chad & Eve, you never won anything, no idea how you got so far but you sure don't deserve it. It's mostly thanks to good luck because we had some tumors in our tribe and they backstabbed us all. In the end, the best player came through. I mean, how can a person who won all individual immunity challenges not win?! And as a tribe, we prevailed in most of the games. I don't see what you two brought to the table at all... Natalia proved she could be loyal and trusted, so there's no doubt in my mind who I'm voting for. If either of you win, there must be something really twisted with this game. That's all I have to say on this matter.

(HOPE YOU ENJOYED 3)

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this, as it's quite frankly ridiculous. 1. I won individual immunity, during the history of Acadia challenge - so I DID win something. 2. Natalia didn't win all the challenges, I won some and so did Orian (not sure of game characters name). Also, you refer to Orian as a backstabber - but I refer to him as being a smart player - the reason he flipped on your tribe was because he wanted to get himself further in the game. If me, Brett and Eve were the first gone post merge then you guys would've undoubtedly voted him out next due to how close your core alliance was.

Also, the question of loyalty - I WAS loyal to my main alliance. I had an alliance of 4 with whom I wanted to go to the end - Martin, Heiki and Sean - and not once did I turn on them unless I had no other option of who to vote for. I was perhaps one of the most loyal members in this game.

And to say I don't deserve to be here is highly fallacious. I was playing this game strategically - I wanted to pave a way for me to get to the final, and look where I'm sitting here today. I came up with moves to split votes when we were in the minority, and quickly alligned with Orian and Gok post merge, as they were in a clear minority and were perfect to team up with. Also, I made some gutsy moves - I found the idol and used it effectively to save Orian, and to put my alliance in the majority.

Anyway, I know that I don't have your vote, but I just want to say that I genuinely feel I deserve to be here today - and hope that I can pick up some more votes.

 

[My Star]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

@Heiki

Oh, that's a tough one. First one that comes to mind is the obvious final 4 vote where we voted you out there. The second one would be the voting out of Janko/Bacchus instead of Simon when Orian played the idol - which in hindsight would've been a good decision. Otherwise, we pretty much were agreed on what to do.

You sucked in games due to a high University workload.

 

[MrJadeEwen]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

How come there are no questions/speechs, etc. Well, I don't really have to ask anything. All I have to say is no one but Natalia deserves to win. Chad & Eve, you never won anything, no idea how you got so far but you sure don't deserve it. It's mostly thanks to good luck because we had some tumors in our tribe and they backstabbed us all. In the end, the best player came through. I mean, how can a person who won all individual immunity challenges not win?! And as a tribe, we prevailed in most of the games. I don't see what you two brought to the table at all... Natalia proved she could be loyal and trusted, so there's no doubt in my mind who I'm voting for. If either of you win, there must be something really twisted with this game. That's all I have to say on this matter.

(HOPE YOU ENJOYED 3)

... In response to this all i say is, I played the game as I wanted to play it. I tried my hardest at the trials even if i did not win. I had two alliances going ahead, One with Conor/Heiki/Sean and another with Simon. I played well throughout and even though i do not wish to win, I think you're bias and if you wanted Simon to win, you'd congratulate him instead of slating others. I feel if Simon does not win, you are solely to blame for it through this ridiculous post. Grow Some Balls!


@Heiki fairplay

Eve Muirhead

 

[SpZ]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

Now that you both tried to answer why i sucked in games, I can say what the reason was. The reason was that I had (still don't have) any internet connection at my dormitory => I didn't have much possibility to us eht enet to paly the games. (somewhat the same for strategy).

So Simon you are saying that you made absolutely now strategic moves at all and played the game more or less quite dumb?

 

[Simon87]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

I dont understand your question

 

[Sean]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

I dont understand your question

So Simon you are saying that you made absolutely no strategic moves at all and played the game more or less quite dumb?

 

[Simon87]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

I answered that in first question

As for strategy, everyone can see that when we came in to "dangerous" zone, everything that was part of my strategy became a good weapon against the other team.
If i played this game dumb i wouldnt be here were I am now

 

[Canuck]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

I'll let you guys continue discussion as I think this is great for you guys to talk about strategy....


The jury can start sending me their votes after 23.59 CET tonight and they have until Friday 23.59 CET.

 

[My Star]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

Now that you both tried to answer why i sucked in games, I can say what the reason was. The reason was that I had (still don't have) any internet connection at my dormitory => I didn't have much possibility to us eht enet to paly the games. (somewhat the same for strategy).

I did not realise that o_o. That would also explain a lot about your presence on msn.

Anyway, to elaborate on one of the main strategical moves I made towards the end which may seem ambiguous to some:

At the Final 5, me and Heiki decided together we needed to get the opposition to target someone other than Heiki, as Heiki had a 1 vote penalty, and 2+1 = 3 which would've caused a tie break situation. So we decided that Heiki should tell Simon he was voting for me, to pin the votes on me - this worked perfectly and preserved both mine and Heiki's position in the game. It was a classic vote diversion and it worked superbly.

Then there was the final 7 - the tribal council where Orian went home - I can admit that this vote was probably the toughest I made in the entire game. It was a choice between loyalty to a core alliance, and a pretty much guaranteed final 3 position. I ended up choosing the former, mainly because I felt it'd cause the least hassle in the long run, and overall the least controversy - which pretty much secured my position where I am today. Taking out Orian was a tough decision - and it's a shame for him, as I feel that he was possibly one of the best players who played this game, and was constantly thinking about how to further himself from day one. However, I am happy about my decision and feel it was the right one in the end - for as it turned out, had I voted with Orian I'd have been on the wrong side of a 4-2 minority anyway at the final 6, for Orian would've gone home anyway.

 

[94ayd]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

By seeing your answers, especially Eve, I'd say you've never watched Survivor. You're not here to make friends, at least I'm not. Even if Natalia didn't win 100% of the challenges, she still kicked your ass way more times than you did. And it's funny you made an alliance with her (,Eve), as she has like 4 votes already. You might have been getting my vote right now but whatever. And I didn't want to get rid of orian, actaully. I'd have eliminated Gok first, even Simon I might have got rid of. Don't think orian made a smart move, so I'm happy he was eliminated. I want to get this over with and I hope in the end, people see who was the only active player in this game from beginning til end.

 

[My Star]

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By seeing your answers, especially Eve, I'd say you've never watched Survivor. You're not here to make friends, at least I'm not. Even if Natalia didn't win 100% of the challenges, she still kicked your ass way more times than you did. And it's funny you made an alliance with her (,Eve), as she has like 4 votes already. You might have been getting my vote right now but whatever. And I didn't want to get rid of orian, actaully. I'd have eliminated Gok first, even Simon I might have got rid of. Don't think orian made a smart move, so I'm happy he was eliminated. I want to get this over with and I hope in the end, people see who was the only active player in this game from beginning til end.

I was incredibly active in this game the whole time. I participated in all the challenges and even won an immunity - BUT SURVIVOR IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE CHALLENGES. As for your accusation that I've never watched survivor - I was constantly making decisions about strategy, and I was basing my game around watching survivor - I've watched 17 out of 21 seasons of the American version of the show - I know that there's more than one element to the game. You should know this too - after all - Sandra Diaz Twine won the game twice without winning a single individual challenge - would you call her a bad player? In fact it's much the opposite - she's quite frankly one of the finest players ever to play the game.

The best comparison I can make between me and a Survivor player is Todd from China. Just like Todd, I may not have been THE BEST at challenges, but I still gave it my all and constantly came within the top 2. However, my game was based around strategy, and making it to the end - and keeping with me a solid alliance. I did this to the best of my ability.

And yes, Orian did make a smart move - realistically would any of you guys have taken him to the end? If his plan had've worked I'm sure he'd be sitting here today - and if it wasn't for elements of luck going against him I'm sure he would be. Anyway, I should get some credit for convincing him to flip with us - it was a strategic move I had to make to secure my position in the game. What was I supposed to do, just go down without a fight? I had to work VERY HARD to be here today - I had to turn a 7-3 minority at the merge around, and did so through playing the outwit side of the game.

 

[94ayd]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

Why I said this is because your reactions to such harsh speeches were not on the needed level (,especially Eve's ). And why the hell did you not propose to me? We were in one alliance the previous edition, it may have worked again. You may have been getting my vote now but it's too late for that.

 

[Simon87]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

I worked very hard too with challenges because i am not stupid, i knew that if i dont win opposite team would kicked me out from the game
I am proud that i meet everything that i promised to people in this game, from start to the end

 

[SpZ]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

I worked very hard too with challenges because i am not stupid, i knew that if i dont win opposite team would kicked me out from the game
I am proud that i meet everything that i promised to people in this game, from start to the end

Pointing out that challenges are just a way to try to fix weak game and provide short term solutions. It is hardly a viable solution and if I'd have had net i would have most likely won at least some of those challenges instead of you (I'm quite good at flash games).
So did you have any long term plans or things in case you wouldn't have won the immunity?

And to conor: You know there were a lot more of places where i was not too happy about the situation (but as I didn't have net, my best bet would be to play it low). Anywayz if i would have not missed the challenge deadline at 6 (you know there are a lot of planning involved here to do everything on time), it would be quite likely that i'd have voted against you. There is 1 thing which you made bad strategically. 1) I assume that you must have not really underestimate you and know that I was aware of things happening in the game (or at least be cautious enough to suspect them) 2) The alliance we had was not equally beneficial to both of us - I was quite aware from the mid game that if we 2 both would make it into the final 3, you would get more votes than me. 1+2==> 3 I had absolutely no wish to go to end with you and at some point was thinking about how to get rid of you. Now you may ask why I didn't really do anything. That was mostly due to me having too little time and internet connection, I mean i didnt have the time to work on all the people in the game I would have wanted to and I would be not so dumb as to get rid of my alliance without having a plan. Just pointing out that if I would have had more time to spend on this, I would have attacked you. Now seeing that you didn't even notice that I had lost my net connection (and you should have noticed it as we interacted quite a bit) - how do you comment you not noticing that I might go against you (or if you did notice it, what were your plans against it) (final 4 does not count).

 

[Simon87]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

Pointing out that challenges are just a way to try to fix weak game and provide short term solutions. It is hardly a viable solution and if I'd have had net i would have most likely won at least some of those challenges instead of you (I'm quite good at flash games).
So did you have any long term plans or things in case you wouldn't have won the immunity?

Well in this point of view I couldnt tell how would you done challenges.

As for other thing, yes I had reserve plans of course. First of all, Martin and I had a deal (couldnt call it alliance), that we will not vote out each other. So thats the first relief. I think that my biggest success was that I didnt emphasized from the group, and that helped me a lot. Also I became close with Gok and helped him to realise that we are stronger together. He saw that i was the only one that didnt voted for him before he was kicked out. I suspected that Conor and you have a alliance a long time ago, when we spoked on msn, but yeah it was my to try

 

[My Star]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

1) I assume that you must have not really underestimate you and know that I was aware of things happening in the game (or at least be cautious enough to suspect them) 2) The alliance we had was not equally beneficial to both of us - I was quite aware from the mid game that if we 2 both would make it into the final 3, you would get more votes than me. 1+2==> 3 I had absolutely no wish to go to end with you and at some point was thinking about how to get rid of you. Now you may ask why I didn't really do anything. That was mostly due to me having too little time and internet connection, I mean i didnt have the time to work on all the people in the game I would have wanted to and I would be not so dumb as to get rid of my alliance without having a plan. Just pointing out that if I would have had more time to spend on this, I would have attacked you. Now seeing that you didn't even notice that I had lost my net connection (and you should have noticed it as we interacted quite a bit) - how do you comment you not noticing that I might go against you (or if you did notice it, what were your plans against it) (final 4 does not count).

This comes as a surprise to me - and it does underline my main flaw - that of overtrustfulness. And, well I agree that I completely dodged a bullet, and genuinely I was surprised that you were plotting against me. One of the reasons I wanted to go to the end with you was that I felt I had more guaranteed votes than you, yes - I'll be frank about that one. I was aware that you were aware of things happening in the game, but I was trying to keep things under control, and hoped that you'd be left with only one option to reach the final - alongside me and Martin - and your lack of activity made me feel you were secure in our alliance.

I never realised your internet loss was due to that - I recognised a lack of activity, but assumed it was due to exams/university work, so didn't want to pry any further into it. How would I have countered it? Well, it would've been a complete blindside - I'd be on the jury, and in all likelyhood you'd be sitting here today.instead of me - I admit that that part of my game was lacking and it was a serious lack of foresignt on my part.

If it had've leaked that you were attacking me, then I would've undoubtedly attacked back - after all, what use is an ally if they're going to vote you out? That's why I kept numerous routeways open - if you had've turned on me I still had links with Gok, and an unbreakable alliance with Martin. If you had've turned on me earlier, I could've easily gone with the others to get you out - I had dialogue with numerous people in this game. However, I doubt you would've leaked any of this due to your gameplaying ability. I admit I would've most likely have been screwed if you had've managed to do this, and that's where the element of luck of Survivor comes into it. Part of me didn't suspect you due to your lack of activity, and so I sort of assumed you weren't doing any external dealings.

 

[dogmeat]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

First of all, thanks for the game! I was sure this kind of shows should be taking place at some nice tropical island, though, not among these frosty cliffs. All my rum was freezing and i had to lick it instead of drinking. I was kind of relieved to be finally going back home. Anyway, the game was fun.

What goes for my role in the game: maybe i'd have made it to the final sticking to my tribe, not leaning out and hoping for others' good will. Maybe... However likely or unlikely it was, fighting my way through seemed thousands times more fun than idle relying on others. This was what spirits of the founding fathers of Rumia told me... no, wait, Rumia was founded by bandits and pirates, nevermind... Anyway, i think those who decided not to make a single strategic move, lost a lot of what the game was offering. My situation as the one standing inbetween two sides was probably most complicated out of all players. Of course, i was making mistakes. For example, this bluff of forgetting to vote was way too readable. I also failed when i replaced Maddie with Simon's servant and trusted him utterly. But overall i'm glad i played earned from the game as much fun as i could (we only could have used a little more roleplay).

Time for questions:
Conor: At the TC where i was voted out we had an agreement. Later, when i was already preparing to leave New Acadia, you told me you had no other choice since Martin had already voted against me when you approached him. What if he hadn't? Would you have kept to our agreement?

Simon: Questions about those two allies you declared. How could you imagine that fairy alliance with Martin would work? He was at a safe pposition in the winning alliance, while you were leader of the defeated side.
When did you approach Gok and what did you offer him? Gok was loyal to me since the merge and he'd have been in the final 3 if my plan had worked

Martin: what was your role in your core alliance? Were you a leader or a follower?

 

[My Star]

Re: SURVIVOR: NEW ACADIA. FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL (ATTN JURY & PLAYERS!!!)

Time for questions:
Conor: At the TC where i was voted out we had an agreement. Later, when i was already preparing to leave New Acadia, you told me you had no other choice since Martin had already voted against me when you approached him. What if he hadn't? Would you have kept to our agreement?

At that point I was incredibly wary of everyone around me - I was suspicious of Heiki, but it was diluted by the fact he wasn't online much so I felt I could trust him. That meant I'd have had to talk to Martin about what he thought was best, as whatever he said would have had to have gone, as I was relying on his vote to further myself. If Martin had've said yes to keeping you around I'd have went with that - no question about it. I needed to keep my core alliance mate happy and I just did what would keep him happy. After all, I had a long term plan, and knew that in a final 4 situation he'd never vote against me, thus reducing the possibility of going out then, and so making my journey one step shorter.

In short, I would have gone with you if it was entirely up to me (but I'm not sure if I'd have gotten the approval of Martin anyway - he was a strong believer in our alliance and would've been skeptical of this, mainly as the numbers obviously didnt add up from his perspective) - and I thought my path to the final was clear, and I think I would've had an incredible chance of winning a final 3 against you and Gok. However, I can't help but feel you saw this too, and may have taken me out further down the line at some point somehow. For example, there was no way I was making the final 3 if Simon went on his immunity run, and it was a choice between me, you and Gok for the other two slots.