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well, they're hardly boasting about it. they literally just stated the facts - which countries did the submitted entries come from.
i agree with brandt and loreen. as long as they don't support russia's actions i see no problem. + it's not their fault they're coming from fascist states.
little big, manizha, val, ala (1997) are all examples of it.
I agree with you in theory, but with what currently going on, it is political to have representatives from those countries. It doesn't mean that all Russian artists support the regime, of course not (although the majority of the top names in Russia do, but that's a different discussion). It's just that right now all pressure that can be put needs to be put, these countries should have zero platforms of international representation as long as they engage in genocidal warfare.
agree with brandt and loreen.
i agree with you to a degree...
but at the same time, they would represent san marino, not russia/belarus... so I don't see it as a problem tbh. but everybody has their own opinion... it's a complex problem.
I fundamentally disagree - but that's fine. If cancelling Russia and its allies means Ukraine can live in peace right now, I'm all for it.well, they're hardly boasting about it. they literally just stated the facts - which countries did the submitted entries come from.
Celebrating? just by stating someone's origin?The issue is they are celebrating that fact.
What’s ridiculously too much is Russian aggression in Ukraine but there we goCelebrating? just by stating someone's origin?
man, i know people go extra radical on the internet regarding politics but sometimes it is ridiculously just too much tbh
So according to you, Russian artists should be allowed in the contest only if they sing to protest the war, or be very vocal about their opinion on the warfare, while singers of other background don't have such obligation, they can sing freely about whatever theme or have whatever opinion as nobody will ask them anyway.It is indeed complex, but I see it as a way to work around sanctions. If any of these artists would be chosen, surely it will be mentioned in the contest that they are Russian or Belarusian, and voila you have the representation right there.
If it were artists that are officially against the invasion, and would use Eurovision as a platform to be a voice for the minority of Russians that are, then I think it's potentially good, but I don't really think that's going to happen. But acts like Val or Naviband that are living in exile, then sure. But from my understanding these aren't even acts in exile?
It's pretty easy to find out if they have some track record or not at least since artists are public people and we live in a digital age. Like take Polina Zagarina for instance, someone like her should obviously be banned since she openly supports the invasion, while artists like Belarusian Naviband or Russian Oxxxymiron are in exile and vocal against it.So according to you, Russian artists should be allowed in the contest only if they sing to protest the war, or be very vocal about their opinion on the warfare, while singers of other background don't have such obligation, they can sing freely about whatever theme or have whatever opinion as nobody will ask them anyway.
Again, if someone publicly stated or acted in support for ruZZia, it is very easy to find out. Of course, what someone states privately we won't know and that's that.How do you know the Italian singer is not supporting the Putin regime? Are we going to ask all singers one by one to confirm they stand in solidarity with Ukraine?
Based on the latest submissions information from the broadcaster of the 402 submissions, over 80% of the applications are from Italy with 334 artists having applied, 16 are from Spain, 8 from Germany and 5 from Norway. In contrast just 3 singers from San Marino have applied to date.
-Christopher, a guy who didn't pass the auditions but became ""famous"" for his cover of "loco loco"
Imagine if Domi are We Are Domi undercover
No, they reply on twitter.