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ROMANIA 2012 - Mandinga - Zaleilah

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    125 34.3%
  • 10

    46 12.6%
  • 08

    35 9.6%
  • 07

    29 8.0%
  • 06

    19 5.2%
  • 05

    30 8.2%
  • 04

    15 4.1%
  • 03

    10 2.7%
  • 02

    15 4.1%
  • 01

    11 3.0%
  • 00

    29 8.0%

  • Total voters
    364

atope90

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For me the best part of the original song was the FINAL INSTRUMENTAL PART... and I saw that in the new version they have killed this part so... 2 points from me...
 

alca

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For me the best part of the original song was the FINAL INSTRUMENTAL PART... and I saw that in the new version they have killed this part so... 2 points from me...

Can you give us a link?
 

A-lister

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I don't understand why this song is so damn underrated? It's one of few really spot on contemporary songs with real hit potential. This is a summer-hit in the making. For ESC's relevance in today's music and commercial success, I hope this will be one of those competing for the top spot.
 

Bojan

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for me this is in the top 3 upbeat songs this year!
it's should get a top 10 spot easily, and I won't be surprised if it goes as high as top 3 overall.
 

aletem

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The studio version is nice actually. Live not so much, because she kills the song. :/
 

A-lister

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I wouldn't be surprised it if wins :D. If it doesn't it will STILL be a summer hit, for sure :D

Well, we'll see. But this is seriously one of ESC's dilemmas, the juries really need to get their act together finally. It's actually a failure for ESC imo if a song that has clear hit-potential and yet fails in ESC, that sort of proves the out of touch with reality this contest sort of still is in.

I'm not saying it should become a contest just to produce a bunch of pop-hits, but still it needs to keep a balance so that it can be seen as relevant. ESC was always seen as backwards and out of touch with actual music trends. If a song like this would fail to qualify for final or not end up high (thanx to juries) (especially when it's quite alone of its kind with the 'summer-hit potential'), then there's a problem for this contest imo.
 

Jukica

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I wouldn't be surprised it if wins :D. If it doesn't it will STILL be a summer hit, for sure :D

I agree, this will be a big hit in some countries :D
 

QwaarJet

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Well, we'll see. But this is seriously one of ESC's dilemmas, the juries really need to get their act together finally. It's actually a failure for ESC imo if a song that has clear hit-potential and yet fails in ESC, that sort of proves the out of touch with reality this contest sort of still is in.

I'm not saying it should become a contest just to produce a bunch of pop-hits, but still it needs to keep a balance so that it can be seen as relevant. ESC was always seen as backwards and out of touch with actual music trends. If a song like this would fail to qualify for final or not end up high (thanx to juries) (especially when it's quite alone of its kind with the 'summer-hit potential'), then there's a problem for this contest imo.

There is no reason for it to keep up with current trends. Just because something sells well and is modern, doesn't make it good. This is an entry that I don't understand. It's in my bottom 5 and is utterly terrible. The juries do a good job of filtering out the crap. Hopefully they will do the same with this one.
 

A-lister

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There is no reason for it to keep up with current trends. Just because something sells well and is modern, doesn't make it good. This is an entry that I don't understand. It's in my bottom 5 and is utterly terrible. The juries do a good job of filtering out the crap. Hopefully they will do the same with this one.

I think ESC needs to stay relevant not to be a laughing stock, but if you read my comment closely, I don't want it to be just that, but I do find it laughable when songs with actual potential to become for instance summer-hits (don't forget that ESC is shown in the beginning of summer almost), and then get totally overlooked. That shows a contest with no touch of reality and which doesn't really live up to its potential of being a force to be reckon with in today's music scene.

Whether this is crap or not it's subjective, but it has summer-hit written all over it.

And yeah, so voting for dated laughing stocks as "C'est ma vie" proves the juries competent job? Plzzz :lol:
 

A-lister

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For me the best part of the original song was the FINAL INSTRUMENTAL PART... and I saw that in the new version they have killed this part so... 2 points from me...

Oh I just heard it!!! WHY oh WHY!?!?

Can someone contact them or Costi and tell them to use the previous, the so called "final version" is much worse... I agree, they took alot away from this song by deleting the final instrumental part.

I hope they re-consider, that this is not the actual ESC version.
 

A-lister

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^ Give me links people!

Oh, I just realized that the "final version" is the same as in the video :lol:

I got used to the previous version, which has a final instrumental part which is not in the "final version" (which is in the video above).
 

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I think ESC needs to stay relevant not to be a laughing stock, but if you read my comment closely, I don't want it to be just that, but I do find it laughable when songs with actual potential to become for instance summer-hits (don't forget that ESC is shown in the beginning of summer almost), and then get totally overlooked. That shows a contest with no touch of reality and which doesn't really live up to its potential of being a force to be reckon with in today's music scene.

Whether this is crap or not it's subjective, but it has summer-hit written all over it.

And yeah, so voting for dated laughing stocks as "C'est ma vie" proves the juries competent job? Plzzz :lol:
Not everyone is into music trends though. I personally hate trends of any kind. Not everyone enjoys the current mainstream music scene or want Eurovision to reflect that. For me it would be a bit of a sell out (and a laughing stock) if juries or televoters put through entries just for the sake of having some so called hit potential in the final. Good songs are good songs no matter how dated or trendy they are.

But that's just me. :)
 

ethn

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cant beleive that some people could name this crap!could accept the popular expression in this forum 'not my cup of tea' , but this being a crap....? maybe I have a totally different idea of what 'crap song' is...

iac, as far as I am concerned,this is as A-lister said, a song with summer-hit potential, energetic and up-tempo,works fine with me for what it is meant to be. somewhere btwn 7/8 pts
 

ethn

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...and as u were discussing abt hits and juries, could someone remind me cause i dont remember how well had JESSY MATADOR - ALLEZ OLLA OLÉ done with jury votes, which was (for me personally and for greeks that summer) the ULTIMATE dance song...?
 

A-lister

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Not everyone is into music trends though. I personally hate trends of any kind. Not everyone enjoys the current mainstream music scene or want Eurovision to reflect that. For me it would be a bit of a sell out (and a laughing stock) if juries or televoters put through entries just for the sake of having some so called hit potential in the final. Good songs are good songs no matter how dated or trendy they are.

But that's just me. :)

You didn't get my point, I don't think juries should vote for stuff just because it's got hit potential, but it's really silly when they don't support such songs but vote for songs that aren't not just "off-trend", but totally out of this world dated and with zero potential of having any impact anywhere other than house for grandmas ... :lol:

And I do think, as I pointed out, that it is important for the contest to find a balance. To be a relevant force in music, I think they should atleast acknowledge the songs that might have a life afterwards. I'm not saying the juries should always award those songs 12p, but atleast not the opposite either.
 
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