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GRAND FINAL LIVE

DAY 1 - 16 LIVE STREAMS​

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soulm8 said:
We are judging what people who has this access are saying. Of course they can be wrong.
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Okay, so it's just repeating commentary and opinions from the YouTube live, cool thanks. I just like to know whether people have been able to watch and form their own opinions or whether it's the hype train gathering steam again!
 
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theditz83 said:
Okay, so it's just repeating commentary and opinions from the YouTube live, cool thanks. I just like to know whether people have been able to watch and form their own opinions or whether it's the hype train gathering steam again!
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İ watched wiwi stream where u can clearly hear the sound and how they sing and so
 
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when are we getting the FINAL press poll?
 
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crashworld said:
Apparently, the breaks in the show are between Serbia and UK and then Finland and Bulgaria.
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I knew it! They need the break to install the trumpets and rock.
 
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theditz83 said:
Okay, so it's just repeating commentary and opinions from the YouTube live, cool thanks. I just like to know whether people have been able to watch and form their own opinions or whether it's the hype train gathering steam again!
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Most people won't "hear better" or the difference with better quality and bitrates going above Youtube's standard, dozens of studies have shown. They can't be sure that the juries heard what they heard. So for this, the YT stream is actually a decent source.
 
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soulm8 said:
I seriously think we should get a random order. But can we talk about fairness when we have countries who are in the final because of money!?
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This won't be Kirkorov's sugary sweet last dance! xheat
 
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NeoTen said:
Most people won't "hear better" or the difference with better quality and bitrates going above Youtube's standard, dozens of studies have shown. They can't be sure that the juries heard what they heard. So for this, the YT stream is actually a decent source.
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I don't think you can argue that an echoey feed from the press room in Rotterdam gives the same listening experience as an official show broadcast, but maybe you have a different feed than what I have watched previously. From my experience the ESCUNITED YouTube lives weren't reliable for judging the performances, and that's not a slight on the service that the team have provided since the primary function of then is to provide insights, opinions and commentary rather than a direct feed to watch the jury shows and rehearsals.

Anyway, I understand now what you are all watching now and I know that I'm not missing any magical links to the direct camera feeds of the jury shows/rehearsals so all is good. I'm holding off until the live GF show tomorrow night!

And in just 24 hours from now, we'll be in the thick of the voting!! xheat
 
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It is so difficult to predict our points this year for the final..
I’m gonna try..

Televoting:

1 point Azerbaijan/Lithuania
2 points San Marino
3 points Finland
4 points Greece
5 points Cyprus
6 points Bulgaria
7 points Italy
8 points France
10 points Russia
12 points Ukraine

Jury:

1 point Italy/Belgium
2 points Iceland
3 points Bulgaria
4 points Russia
5 points Sweden
6 points Malta
7 points Ukraine
8 points France
10 points Portugal
12 points Switzerland
 
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Here are all the 26 finalists, in the order they will perform tomorrow night:
Cyprus, Albania, Israel, Belgium, Russia, Malta, Portugal, Serbia, United Kingdom, Greece, Switzerland, Iceland, Spain, Moldova, Germany, Finland, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Ukraine, France, Azerbaijan, Norway, The Netherlands, Italy, Sweden, San Marino.

Now for the ‭13‬ countries which failed to reach the final, but which will still vote tomorrow night:‬‬‬‬‬‬‬‬
Australia, Austria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Ireland, Latvia, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Slovenia.

Now let's look at some country groups:

Baltic States (Ex-USSR)
IN: Lithuania. OUT: Estonia, Latvia.

Nordic area
IN: Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden. OUT: Denmark.

Benelux
IN: Belgium, The Netherlands. (Luxembourg didn't enter yet again)

Central Europe
IN: Germany, Switzerland. OUT: Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Slovenia. (Hungary and Slovakia didn't enter this year).

Greece and Cyprus
IN: Cyprus, Greece.

Romania and Moldova
IN: Moldova. OUT: Romania.

Former Yugoslavia
IN: Serbia. OUT: Croatia, North Macedonia, Slovenia. (Bosnia & Herzegovina and Montenegro didn't enter this year).

Founding Seven
By this I mean the seven countries which appeared in the very first Eurovision Song Contest in Lugano in 1956:
IN: Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, The Netherlands. (Luxembourg didn't enter yet again)

More detail about these groups is in the following report:
Eurovision Song Contest 2021 Analysis
 
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Preuss said:
Will the televote be presented in the same way as last year?
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I guess? My biggest concern though is that the juries only give their 12s now, I can to some extent understand why EBU scrapped that 39 countries' spokespersons would verbally give 1-12, but why did they have to scrap the 8-12? There is little suspense now xshrug
 
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Iker said:
At least we're fortunate he's good looking. But I am fed up too.
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Yeah, he wasn't even the public #1 yet we are constantly fed the illusion that he was the most popular ESC winner of the last decades xshrug

But yes, the guy is good looking, and while I never really liked that entry I still think the juries did one thing right and save us from that kitschy Popera that would have won... also Måns' entry did manage to cross-over a bit after the contest, which is rare for ESC winners (or ESC entries in general) let's be real, but still I am tired of him always being there and again it just proves that the contest is under Swedish control xshrug
 
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