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Portugal PORTUGAL 2014 - Susy - Quero Ser Tua (Como A Lua É Do Luar)

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    39 17.2%
  • 10

    10 4.4%
  • 8

    13 5.7%
  • 7

    24 10.6%
  • 6

    18 7.9%
  • 5

    21 9.3%
  • 4

    13 5.7%
  • 3

    12 5.3%
  • 2

    17 7.5%
  • 1

    10 4.4%
  • 0

    50 22.0%

  • Total voters
    227

i anixi

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Whats the scandal? Man with horrendously boring song loses to a slightly better one?xwhat

Not really RainyWoods. That actually belongs into subjective judgment category. The scandal is about RTP running a song contest open for whoever had the biggest bank account thus turning immorality into legal and acceptable behaviour xshrug
 

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[MENTION=9441]RainyWoods[/MENTION]

No man, but Catarna Peraira with "Mea culpa"

I hope this shite will end very soon, it's not entertaining scandal at all, it's actually boring and annoying one.. :?

Ok i'll rephrase it then..

Woman with close to horrendously boring song loses to a slightly better one xwhat
 

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Not really RainyWoods. That actually belongs into subjective judgment category. The scandal is about RTP running a song contest open for whoever had the biggest bank account thus turning immorality into legal and acceptable behaviour xshrug

Oh ok. Have these things been confirmed? Cheating in any NF is unacceptable behaviour and should be looked into.

I'm glad that man didn't win though or the woman who was apparently robbed of victory. Suzy's song is ridiculous but has become a guilty pleasure of mine. The win should have been Zana's though!
 

i anixi

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Have these things been confirmed?

Are these things ever confirmed? It's common knowledge anyway and one that was there long before it happened. It's hardly a National issue anyway, as the ESC niche is tiny and few people will care about this year's ESC song or how on earth it ended up there.

It's quickly turning into a National joke though and comedians are already using it as unique prime material for their shows :mrgreen:
 

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Europe needs songs like this instead of depressing ballads. Portugal will be my Eurovision country this year :)
 

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I can't stand this song, but saying there was fraud involved is ridiculous (where are the proofs? Common knowledge? All I see is mad people, including the second placed song's writer, making accusations without any evidence. All of them had their friends and fans voting for their songs more than 100 times. Bad luck if Emanuel has more friends and fans! xshrug I will never understand how the Portuguese fans can see this victory as a surprise. We ALL know Emanuel is loved by the crowd and that he would certainly win. ESC fans are fewer than Emanuel's fans, this should be obvious. :?

If the other singers or composers didn't like the rules that were set, they should have quit the contest. Being bitter about that only makes it worse and it doesn't look good on them at all.
 

i anixi

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Bad luck if Emanuel has more friends and fans!

More money's much more like it. I don't believe his fans were really gang voting like that.


I will never understand how the Portuguese fans can see this victory as a surprise.

You're right, I for one don't. In the end it was all too much on your face though.

If the other singers or composers didn't like the rules that were set, they should have quit the contest

Very true, no doubt. Some actually did, José Cid, Tiago Pais Dias, god knows who else, the others should be quiet. I do believe that the reason for those absurd rules being set in the first place should be the one thing to be investigated.
 

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I think I'm one of the few who doesn't mind this song :O. Still, I doubt it has much chance of breaking the top 10 of many people (or of reaching the final!)
 

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I'm surprised by the positive comments about our song. And I've been listening to it and even if Suzy can't sing very well live, the song has a good beat. But I think it won't go to the Finals. We'll see!
 

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Are these things ever confirmed? It's common knowledge anyway and one that was there long before it happened. It's hardly a National issue anyway, as the ESC niche is tiny and few people will care about this year's ESC song or how on earth it ended up there.

It's quickly turning into a National joke though and comedians are already using it as unique prime material for their shows :mrgreen:

Actually it was the most talked about subject in high school last monday :eek: (I was shocked :lol:) Pretty much everybody hates the song.
 

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I think I'm one of the few who doesn't mind this song :O. Still, I doubt it has much chance of breaking the top 10 of many people (or of reaching the final!)

I'm one of those who really enjoy the song, but I don't think this will creep into the top 10. Qualifying for the final, maybe. Top 10, not so much.
 

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I don't know about those but I think the rumor is Rui won the semi and Suzy was like 5th....but no one knows and that's part of the reason why so many people think there is something fishy with the final results xshrug

Rui would have been a dreadful winner... monotone boring ballad.

As I wrote previously in this thread, for instance Robin Stjernberg didn't qualify directly to the Swedish final in Melodifestivalen last year, yet he won it all in the end... it's not impossible and it also depends on the amount of viewers compared to the SF and the demography of the public.
 

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Rui would have been a dreadful winner... monotone boring ballad.

As I wrote previously in this thread, for instance Robin Stjernberg didn't qualify directly to the Swedish final in Melodifestivalen last year, yet he won it all in the end... it's not impossible and it also depends on the amount of viewers compared to the SF and the demography of the public.

Everything you said is 100% correct ;)

I guess for many the problem in this situation (unlike last years MF) is that the Euro fans had such an obvious landslide favorite and she didn't win so now there has to be some big conspiracy to justify it despite like you said its more then possible and okay to improve on results from semi to final xshrug

Their just upset their favorite didn't win
 

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Everything you said is 100% correct ;)

I guess for many the problem in this situation (unlike last years MF) is that the Euro fans had such an obvious landslide favorite and she didn't win so now there has to be some big conspiracy to justify it despite like you said its more then possible and okay to improve on results from semi to final xshrug

Their just upset their favorite didn't win

I don't think that's the real problem... The problem is where are those 41,5% people who voted for Suzy? I can't find more than 10 maybe 20 people online that voted for her. Some people say most people who voted don't use facebook or forums to express their vote... Then I say, why are so many people making fun of the song and saying it is a bad song everywhere? School, other TV stations, people talking on the street...

There's something strange about this... My guess? Call centers... :rolleyes:
 

i anixi

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Their just upset their favorite didn't win

Will you please please please stop saying that when you can't know what's going on? This is not about Catarina as she's not an issue anymore. She's no great singer anyway and her song was not that special.

This is about a very wealthy man who arrogantly decides for his country with RTP's quiet backing.

The facts, apparently are as following: Rui and Catarina won the semi with 9000 and odd votes, Rui being first. Suzy was 5th with 4000 odd, very close to the 6th place. The rule was one vote per phone.
Final had 1000 more viewers than semi final. Rule was, "vote as much as you want and can afford".

2007 Portuguese entry was also from Emanuel. It seems to have come out that most of the votes it received have come from 3 places: his office, a call center in Portugal and a call center in France. Nobody talked about it at the time.

41% against 23% at present is simply gross. You hardly hear a voice defending Suzy and her song around here. I mean, where are all these people? xshrug

RTP is the one to blame, of course. I don't know what kind of deal they made with this man, but they must have made one and it was surely worth the trouble.

Can you really blame anyone for feeling cheated, regarless of the other songs?
 
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