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Poland POLAND 2024 - Luna - The Tower
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BorisBubbles
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It's kind of like death by a thousand papercuts, isn't it?
Like, i genuinely feel like the creative team made a bunch of smaller mistakes, and it was enough to snowball into an NQ. Although Poland on paper should have been an easy qualifier.
Poland misunderstood the assignment; They chose a fun, plucky electropop song by an artist with little on-stage experience and failed to fascilitate her artist. That's not on Luna but on TVP. Luna needed an act where she doesn't have to move much and therefore can concentrate on her voice - My head-staging for this was just the giant dress and ribbons from the music vid - that would have done quite well, especially since you can stack dress-upon-dress to metaphorically transform Luna into the titular tower without tiring her out.
It's not like Poland lacked a vision or a budget - The Tower, for all its sonic flaws still looked good. My mother who did NOT like the song at all, said so multiple times throughout the night. The problems were of a logistical nature, and they failed to compromise accordingly.
Let this be a lesson for future broadcasters; TRUST YOUR SONG. And stage according to its rhythm and its intepreter's needs. Ensure that they can perform it to the best of their capacity. Ireland did that, and have become a fan favourite as a result. There was no reason Poland couldn't have accomplished that either - but they didn't, and that's why they failed.
Like, i genuinely feel like the creative team made a bunch of smaller mistakes, and it was enough to snowball into an NQ. Although Poland on paper should have been an easy qualifier.
- Luna's vocals were not good, obviously.
- The key of the song was lowered (I could tell - I've listened to The Tower a disturbingly high amount of times :X) to fascilitate Luna better, but she still couldn't do it (and it made the soundtrack sound worse)
- Then there's the addition of live off-stage backings, who were mixed in poorly and were therefore overpowering Luna.
- This comes on top of that staging doing all of those things :beckons arm: which made singing even harder. We all remember how Roxen disemboweled Cherry Red and the other songs as soon as she had to do anything beyond "standing still". This is another example of that.
- Finally, all the chess symbolism Poland tried to shove into the visuals which looked good, but the song frankly didn't need.
Poland misunderstood the assignment; They chose a fun, plucky electropop song by an artist with little on-stage experience and failed to fascilitate her artist. That's not on Luna but on TVP. Luna needed an act where she doesn't have to move much and therefore can concentrate on her voice - My head-staging for this was just the giant dress and ribbons from the music vid - that would have done quite well, especially since you can stack dress-upon-dress to metaphorically transform Luna into the titular tower without tiring her out.
It's not like Poland lacked a vision or a budget - The Tower, for all its sonic flaws still looked good. My mother who did NOT like the song at all, said so multiple times throughout the night. The problems were of a logistical nature, and they failed to compromise accordingly.
Let this be a lesson for future broadcasters; TRUST YOUR SONG. And stage according to its rhythm and its intepreter's needs. Ensure that they can perform it to the best of their capacity. Ireland did that, and have become a fan favourite as a result. There was no reason Poland couldn't have accomplished that either - but they didn't, and that's why they failed.
PeterLPZ
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Aweful stage and it was difficult to hear Luna. It was too chaotic.
han-g
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They've already kind of begun. Polish fans have said there was a huge media storm against us (think Netherlands 2023) and the diaspora would have known and influenced to not vote. Which um sounds really horrible for Luna if that's the case.
A few Polish toxic "fans" started hateful campaign against Ukraine (their most loyal ESC ally recently) just 1 day before the semi (also fueled by Russian and certain Balkan fans).
They tried really hard to shoot themselves in both feet. But we don't pay attention to haters, anyway. Sick people do not represent the whole nation
Our delegations are very friendly btw
We sticked together and we left the Green Room together. Alyona protected her from the wind when Luna was freezing at the Turquoise Carpet. Luna was interested in our social campaign and the girls had fun together 
The performance received 60-70% negative rating from our ESC community. Toxic Polish fans/nationalists attributed less than 10% to that. The main reasons why we didn't vote for her, and I quote both, fans and ordinary viewers: bad vocals, messy staging, aggressive Youtube promo (when her ad starts before literally every video it's too much).
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Studio version of this song is fantastic. Vocally it was not strong enough, but that would also be acceptable because it was not critical, but what was critical was everything els. The scenes with horses wer just tragic that made me ashamed. Costumes were also tragedy. The performance itself was a huge mess. They should have done something like they did in music video, which is excellent.
CatTully
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They sadly dragged her rightfully.A few Polish toxic "fans" started hateful campaign against Ukraine (their most loyal ESC ally recently) just 1 day before the semi (also fueled by Russian and certain Balkan fans).
They tried really hard to shoot themselves in both feet. But we don't pay attention to haters, anyway. Sick people do not represent the whole nation
I am surprised she didn't make it. I expected she would make it instead of Cyprus. But I think the combination of shaky vocals, somewhat inappropriate staging for this type of song (though, I personally liked it) and the draw resulted in this outcome.
I am gutted that RTS interrupted the transmission exactly during this song, a song that I like
Nonetheless, I am sure will come back much stronger next year.
I am gutted that RTS interrupted the transmission exactly during this song, a song that I like
Nonetheless, I am sure
will come back much stronger next year.
toinou03
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It's a shame because I like the song, the chorus is pretty cool (although verses are pretty bad) , but the whole performance was meh.
The chess number was not as great as probably expected and Luna seemed embarrased to be there.
All in all, severe but deserved NQ.
The chess number was not as great as probably expected and Luna seemed embarrased to be there.
All in all, severe but deserved NQ.
ESC94
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How many people watched the final in ??
??
LivingOrganism
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I'll post it here, because I doubt anybody would see it, if I put in in last year's thread.
https://www.wirtualnemedia.pl/artyk...-telewizja-polska-chodzi-o-wyniki-preselekcji
The article is in Polish, so non-poles would have to use the translator. In short, a eurofan oragnisation called OGAE Polska won in court of second instance against TVP in a case concerning our ESC 2023 NF. Unless TVP files an appeal to the Supreme Court (which is not likely), they have 30 days (now 29 days) to release detailed information about the voting results, jury voting rules etc.
https://www.wirtualnemedia.pl/artyk...-telewizja-polska-chodzi-o-wyniki-preselekcji
The article is in Polish, so non-poles would have to use the translator. In short, a eurofan oragnisation called OGAE Polska won in court of second instance against TVP in a case concerning our ESC 2023 NF. Unless TVP files an appeal to the Supreme Court (which is not likely), they have 30 days (now 29 days) to release detailed information about the voting results, jury voting rules etc.
lilka
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Any news about that? I'm currently in Greece and I've got no idea what is happening in our homeland.
LivingOrganism
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No news so far. Last official information from OGAE Poland dates back to the 6th of June. I suppose, TVP did end up filing an appeal or there's more to the whole situation, than the media says. I tried looking for the court verdict in question on LEX, but it looks like it has not yet been published there, which might be pointing to the speculation I've made above, that the case has somehow not yet been closed. Alternatively, it is possible, that the court gave TVP a different time limit, but I couldn't find any information which would confirm that.