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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
She was raised and born in Lorraine to a mother who was even from the Bundesrepublik. But later she's got the image of the archetypal chansonnier in her home country and since then she is trying hard to come across as French in every way possible. It's hillarious watching her interviews in perfect German with a totally over-the-top fake accent. Even a French person with zero knowledge of German pronunciation wouldn't speak in such a manner if you asked them to read or repeat something.
But I guess that is partly why she's famous here.
She was raised and born in Lorraine to a mother who was even from the Bundesrepublik. But later she's got the image of the archetypal chansonnier in her home country and since then she is trying hard to come across as French in every way possible. It's hillarious watching her interviews in perfect German with a totally over-the-top fake accent. Even a French person with zero knowledge of German pronunciation wouldn't speak in such a manner if you asked them to read or repeat something.
But I guess that is partly why she's famous here.
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Nice show, but why is England taking part? I didn't see who got it, but it would be better if the participant chooses another country instead, because England is not eligible to take part, since it's only countries that are eligible to take part in FSC, and England is part of the UK.
Nice show, but why is England taking part? I didn't see who got it, but it would be better if the participant chooses another country instead, because England is not eligible to take part, since it's only countries that are eligible to take part in FSC, and England is part of the UK.
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Read post #16.
& while we are at it I was searrching for the lyrics of the Lithuanian entry and couldn't find any evidence that title or content refer to
Read post #16.
Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
We were acting on the assumption that the song dealeth with the USA, weren't we? Otherwise, if the continent is meant how would it fit in with a country theme?
Read post #16.& while we are at it I was searrching for the lyrics of the Lithuanian entry and couldn't find any evidence that title or content refer to
We were acting on the assumption that the song dealeth with the USA, weren't we? Otherwise, if the continent is meant how would it fit in with a country theme?
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Yeah you are right, it seems that it refers to the continent as it mentions Columbus and Magellan...
My territories are undiscovered,
Only bears wander here at nights
Be Columbus, Magellan
And my territories will be your territories
White flags are waving
You will never be cold
With me
Käännös laulusta "Amerika" artistilta Alina Orlova kielestä Liettua kieleen Englanti
& while we are at it I was searrching for the lyrics of the Lithuanian entry and couldn't find any evidence that title or content refer to
Yeah you are right, it seems that it refers to the continent as it mentions Columbus and Magellan...
My territories are undiscovered,
Only bears wander here at nights
Be Columbus, Magellan
And my territories will be your territories
White flags are waving
You will never be cold
With me
Käännös laulusta "Amerika" artistilta Alina Orlova kielestä Liettua kieleen Englanti
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Well, also Puerto Rico is not an independent country, it belongs to USA, but that one at least it's an unincorporated territory, and it's even accepted to take part in spin offs, so there's nothing wrong there.
IMO, Lithuanian entry shouldn't have been accepted either. Please don't vote yet, until we solve these problems. Can you ask the person who got Lithuania to send something else too?
Croatian one is acceptable regardless of not having the country in the title, because it refers to Croatia as a song and it mentions it also namely (and it was asked if it would be acceptable for the spin off and the answer was positive).
Well, also Puerto Rico is not an independent country, it belongs to USA, but that one at least it's an unincorporated territory, and it's even accepted to take part in spin offs, so there's nothing wrong there.
IMO, Lithuanian entry shouldn't have been accepted either. Please don't vote yet, until we solve these problems. Can you ask the person who got Lithuania to send something else too?
Croatian one is acceptable regardless of not having the country in the title, because it refers to Croatia as a song and it mentions it also namely (and it was asked if it would be acceptable for the spin off and the answer was positive).
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Aha, so both her parents are German then? So she's practically a German acting as a French?
She was raised and born in Lorraine to a mother who was even from the Bundesrepublik. But later she's got the image of the archetypal chansonnier in her home country and since then tries hard to come across as French in every way possible. It's hillarious watching her interviews in perfect German with a totally over-the-top fake accent. Even a French person with zero knowledge of German pronunciation wouldn't speak in such a manner if you asked them to read or repeat something.
Aha, so both her parents are German then? So she's practically a German acting as a French?
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Ah! So the song did indeed (correctly) refer to a whole continent then!
Yeah you are right, it seems that it refers to the continent as it mentions Columbus and Magellan...
My territories are undiscovered,
Only bears wander here at nights
Be Columbus, Magellan
And my territories will be your territories
White flags are waving
You will never be cold
With me
Käännös laulusta "Amerika" artistilta Alina Orlova kielestä Liettua kieleen Englanti
Ah! So the song did indeed (correctly) refer to a whole continent then!
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
I'd say Puerto Rico is technically a country on its own, it doesn't really belong to the USA in the same sense as for instance Hawaii does. They do govern themselves, it's more like a pseudo-protectionist thing going on between the two. I mean they even declined to become an official state of the USA (which would mean that they'd loose their independence and officially become a part of the USA).
I'd say Puerto Rico is technically a country on its own, it doesn't really belong to the USA in the same sense as for instance Hawaii does. They do govern themselves, it's more like a pseudo-protectionist thing going on between the two. I mean they even declined to become an official state of the USA (which would mean that they'd loose their independence and officially become a part of the USA).
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
Milos-BC's entry for England has been replaced with an entry for Ireland, still in spot 2.
I'm standing by Lithuania's entry, however. The first criteria was that a country name be in the title, not that the song had to be about the country itself. "America" is an acceptable way to refer to the United States. While the song lyrics don't obviously deal with the United States, we would've still accepted an entry with a country in the title even if it talked about something else completely, right?
Milos-BC's entry for England has been replaced with an entry for Ireland, still in spot 2.
I'm standing by Lithuania's entry, however. The first criteria was that a country name be in the title, not that the song had to be about the country itself. "America" is an acceptable way to refer to the United States. While the song lyrics don't obviously deal with the United States, we would've still accepted an entry with a country in the title even if it talked about something else completely, right?
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
That song would be acceptable if it refers to the USA or any other country. America is not a country name, it's a continent no matter how many times people refers the USA as America, that's wrong.
So, I'm for changing the song because should follow the spin-off theme. That song would be perfect for continents name spin-off
That song would be acceptable if it refers to the USA or any other country. America is not a country name, it's a continent no matter how many times people refers the USA as America, that's wrong.
So, I'm for changing the song because should follow the spin-off theme. That song would be perfect for continents name spin-off
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
No individual gets to dictate how people use language, and what's wrong or right when it comes to use.
Besides, the dictionary explicitly proves that "America" = "United States of America".
No individual gets to dictate how people use language, and what's wrong or right when it comes to use.
Besides, the dictionary explicitly proves that "America" = "United States of America".
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
America is a continent, though. It's like an entry with title "Holland" is accepted, because many people refer to The Netherlands as Holland.
America is a continent, though. It's like an entry with title "Holland" is accepted, because many people refer to The Netherlands as Holland.
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
I think we use official names, you will never see America in UN meetings, Olympic Games, not even in Miss Universe If tomorrow we start calling Euope to Spain it would be wrong no matter how many times people call it like that. We also follow the FSC rules, and we don´t use America instead of United States of America. Anyway, I think it's up to the mods now. 
I think we use official names, you will never see America in UN meetings, Olympic Games, not even in Miss Universe
If tomorrow we start calling Euope to Spain it would be wrong no matter how many times people call it like that. We also follow the FSC rules, and we don´t use America instead of United States of America. Anyway, I think it's up to the mods now. Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
I doubt it is very common in languages other than English (by obvious reasons) to refer to the USA as America. Still, if that was what the lyricist meant it should be accepted IMHO (therefore had a song title been 'Holland' or 'England' it wouldf very likely been eligible), but apparently this is not the case here.
I doubt it is very common in languages other than English (by obvious reasons) to refer to the USA as America. Still, if that was what the lyricist meant it should be accepted IMHO (therefore had a song title been 'Holland' or 'England' it wouldf very likely been eligible), but apparently this is not the case here.
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Re: November 2013: Country Name Spin-Off! | The Show! | DL: Dec. 1, 23:59 CET
I cannot say for all the languages, but in/ it's very common to use just America instead of United States of America 
In fact, almost nobody uses ''United States of America'' here
It's all up to mods of course but personally I'd accept this entry.
I cannot say for all the languages, but in
/ it's very common to use just America instead of United States of America In fact, almost nobody uses ''United States of America'' here It's all up to mods of course but personally I'd accept this entry.