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Norway NORWAY 2021 - TIX - Fallen Angel
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Today i realized that this song reminds me of 
2003.. all of the "this song sounds like it's from the early 2000s" comments got to me and i connected the dots. 
Both are very romantic ballads that i personally like, the only difference is that one character is a "chad", and the other character is a "virgin"
2003.. all of the "this song sounds like it's from the early 2000s" comments got to me and i connected the dots. Both are very romantic ballads that i personally like, the only difference is that one character is a "chad", and the other character is a "virgin"
I recently discovered that song, and I love it!!!!Today i realized that this song reminds me of
Both are very romantic ballads that i personally like, the only difference is that one character is a "chad", and the other character is a "virgin"
Exactly, the production is probably one of best this year, and even if it has the boy band vibes, it still sounds fresh to me.
TIX had actually considered to withdraw:
🇳🇴 TIX considered withdrawing from Melodi Grand Prix due to criticism - ESCXTRA.com
TIX, who will represent Norway at Eurovision 2021, has revealed in a documentary that he considered
escxtra.com
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...And here we go again.... eurofans using the word "dated"; Sometimes even as their main description of a song. The term is very seldom used in this forum as a positive adjective.
Heaps of songs have been called dated by heaps of eurofans through the years. Spirit in the Sky got many comments calling it dated 90s music (the word trash was also mentioned). The fandom as a total was very positive to the same song though. And as far as I can recall the televoters didnt hate this 90s throwback? Another song that was often described by eurofans as dated was Colour of your Life. I dont think all those 222 televotes in the final came from polish diaspora only. I guess that operatic pop wasnt very "modern" and cool back in 2015 either, maybe one could even call the whole genre a bit dated? But the televotes didnt care so much. In fact - the televoters dont tend to punish songs in the ESC for not being "up to date".
It seems to me that some fans are eager to use the term dated for entries having a sound from the 70s, 80s, 90s or 00s - entries that they dont like that is. I guess these fans would describe what they concider "good" 80s or 90s entries as "retro", "sentimental", "authentic" - or other more positive terms.
And lets go outside the ESC bubble: The first time I heard Blinding Lights on the radio I fell immediately in love and went straight home to add it to my playlist. Not because it had such a fantastic arrangement or vocals - but becase I was thrown straight back to the 80s! That song represented a feeling. And it seems I am not the only one liking Blinding Lights.... even though I guess it could be called dated?
You know what? I really like Fallen Angel. I loved Spirit in the Sky! I liked Colour of your Life. I was so emotional when Amar Pelos Dois won. And Il Volo was my favourites back in 2015. But of course... looking at my birth certificate it's no wonder why I like all this dated stuff.... I am about to get quite dated myself.
Heaps of songs have been called dated by heaps of eurofans through the years. Spirit in the Sky got many comments calling it dated 90s music (the word trash was also mentioned). The fandom as a total was very positive to the same song though. And as far as I can recall the televoters didnt hate this 90s throwback? Another song that was often described by eurofans as dated was Colour of your Life. I dont think all those 222 televotes in the final came from polish diaspora only. I guess that operatic pop wasnt very "modern" and cool back in 2015 either, maybe one could even call the whole genre a bit dated? But the televotes didnt care so much. In fact - the televoters dont tend to punish songs in the ESC for not being "up to date".
It seems to me that some fans are eager to use the term dated for entries having a sound from the 70s, 80s, 90s or 00s - entries that they dont like that is. I guess these fans would describe what they concider "good" 80s or 90s entries as "retro", "sentimental", "authentic" - or other more positive terms.
And lets go outside the ESC bubble: The first time I heard Blinding Lights on the radio I fell immediately in love and went straight home to add it to my playlist. Not because it had such a fantastic arrangement or vocals - but becase I was thrown straight back to the 80s! That song represented a feeling. And it seems I am not the only one liking Blinding Lights.... even though I guess it could be called dated?
You know what? I really like Fallen Angel. I loved Spirit in the Sky! I liked Colour of your Life. I was so emotional when Amar Pelos Dois won. And Il Volo was my favourites back in 2015. But of course... looking at my birth certificate it's no wonder why I like all this dated stuff.... I am about to get quite dated myself.
Oh poor baby, the win I guess makes it all worth it!
Agree 100% and I loved all those entries you mentioned.
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Also, I really hate words outdated and generic in eurovision. I really hate them..
Don't forget (un-)polished. We need them posh phrases thrown in here
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I think I divide 1950-2000-sounding songs into "nice retro, timeless classics" and "outdated" depending on whether I like them or not. This is a subjective assessment.
If I see a mix of old elements with new ones in a song, it's definitely interesting.
If a song has an entirely old sound (for example, 70s), but at the same time it would stand out for me among the songs of the 70s, would not get lost among similar ones, then I would also highly rate it.
I'll even say more, I love old-sounding songs. But ... not all of them. For example, I like "Colour of your Life" and "Grande amore", but, alas, Denmark’s song this year didn’t catch me, I have nothing to say about it except “it sounds out of date /it is old-sounding” . The characteristic is almost neutral. I mean "it looks like an 80s song, but I didn't find anything for myself in it".
But this doesn't mean that song is bad and cannot be liked by others. I can say "modern", but if I don't add "and good", this is exactly the same characteristic.
I believe that we need to express our opinion as it is, sincerity is important (if the song seems ordinary, boring or easily forgotten to you, I think you can say it), but we should not criticize someone else's taste.
Tiх seems to me to be a kind and sweet guy, and I'm sad to hear that haters upset him, but, unfortunately, I don't like the sound of his song (I don't like many pop-songs of 2000)
But the first associationt with the song and the performance "Oh, this is definitely Eurovision!"
(a collective image, I don't know
how to put it right).
If I see a mix of old elements with new ones in a song, it's definitely interesting.
If a song has an entirely old sound (for example, 70s), but at the same time it would stand out for me among the songs of the 70s, would not get lost among similar ones, then I would also highly rate it.
I'll even say more, I love old-sounding songs. But ... not all of them. For example, I like "Colour of your Life" and "Grande amore", but, alas, Denmark’s song this year didn’t catch me, I have nothing to say about it except “it sounds out of date /it is old-sounding” . The characteristic is almost neutral. I mean "it looks like an 80s song, but I didn't find anything for myself in it".
But this doesn't mean that song is bad and cannot be liked by others. I can say "modern", but if I don't add "and good", this is exactly the same characteristic.I believe that we need to express our opinion as it is, sincerity is important (if the song seems ordinary, boring or easily forgotten to you, I think you can say it), but we should not criticize someone else's taste.
Tiх seems to me to be a kind and sweet guy, and I'm sad to hear that haters upset him, but, unfortunately, I don't like the sound of his song (I don't like many pop-songs of 2000)
But the first associationt with the song and the performance "Oh, this is definitely Eurovision!"
(a collective image, I don't knowhow to put it right).
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"Bland" is another word. I try to not use all these terms, but in rare cases I do, I think. I am a sacrifice of certain circumstances.Don't forget (un-)polished. We need them posh phrases thrown in here
Elina UA
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You're so biased. You can't write a post where you don't contradict your own words several times.
Anyway, these're just your sweet dreams,
I see we have an expert here. Listen to MalagaToledo and do the opposite.
And then...
Anyway, these're just your sweet dreams,
I see we have an expert here. Listen to MalagaToledo and do the opposite.
Elina UA
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Yeah. Same televoters who voted in 2019 for an outdated 90's song from
Keiino is the 90s euro-trash at its finest, and it won...People do not analyse if its dated, polished, and everything that we in the fandom do... They just vote for what the like at the moment in the night of eurovision...
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You're so biased. You can't write a post where you don't contradict your own words several times.
And then...
Anyway, these're just your sweet dreams,
I see we have an expert here. Listen to MalagaToledo and do the opposite.
I didn't even react to his or her comment because it made zero sense to me. I appreciate your bravery in trying to open that Pandora's box
Hm. I have MalagaToledo on my (only btw.) ignore-list since a long time. But you seem to have so much fun that I am starting to think if I should forget about that ignore-button ...You're so biased. You can't write a post where you don't contradict your own words several times.
And then...
Anyway, these're just your sweet dreams,
I see we have an expert here. Listen to MalagaToledo and do the opposite.
P.S. I can't read what he writes, (since I put him on ignore-list) but your answers make me laugh!
Elina UA
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Ah, the secret is... i'm not trying to make sense either!I didn't even react to his or her comment because it made zero sense to me. I appreciate your bravery in trying to open that Pandora's box
Just having fun here. 
That's all i wanted.Hm. I have MalagaToledo on my (only btw.) ignore-list since a long time. But you seem to have so much fun that I am starting to think if I should forget about that ignore-button ...
Franzilein
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Hm. I have MalagaToledo on my (only btw.) ignore-list since a long time. But you seem to have so much fun that I am starting to think if I should forget about that ignore-button ...
You're missing out. It's a fest
Besides young public won't consider it 'oUtDaTeD tRaSh' because i personally never listened to 90's boy bands. We do not care, oldies!
I don't even see this as a negative. My generation (20-30 years old) grew up with these songs, no party is a success if they aren't included. Maybe A-lister is simply not the target group
Anyway
