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I'm wondering, how and why did this rule come about? What was the motivation? How do the people actually involved in the ESC feel about it now?
 

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You mean the orchestra? They haven't that since 1999.

There are always people who want for the orchestra to come back but it's unlikely.
 

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I do think he means that live instruments are not allowed,
such as a guitar (example Tom Dice) was not live, but on tape

I find this actually a stupid rule, if you have instruments with you on the stage, let people use them live and not playback it
 

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I hope that one day this rule changes. I dont want an orchestra, but this would be a good rule to change.
 

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Yeah, the orchestra seems a bit outdated, but surely something should be arranged to allow live instruments on stage. Some performances, such as Estonia 2009 or Belgium 2010, would've gained in authenticity.
 

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Indeed, this is one of the dumbest rules. If they let the instruments to be played on playback then I see no difference in letting the singers sing on playback too. It would be good if this rule changed.
 

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Indeed, this is one of the dumbest rules. If they let the instruments to be played on playback then I see no difference in letting the singers sing on playback too. It would be good if this rule changed.

Singers singing on playback would be strange to hear :/ so I agree, they should allow live instruments (like for Slovenia and Quartissimo, for example) :D
 

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So, what's the future for this rule? I still haven't heard any explanation to why it was decided in the first place....
 

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It's a practicality problem. There just isn't time to arrange and tune instruments in the 30 seconds they have between each performance.

The only option, I guess, would be a revolving stage where the next couple of acts can be sorted out while other performers are singing. I don't think it's worth the bother or the backlash from angry bands if they get the sound wrong.
 

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it should have been re-installed a long time ago, but now with the Economical Crisis, it's gonna be nearly impossible... Maybe Swedes could help us with that little favour, but I don't think it will happen...

I would have given everything to watch with orchestra acts such as Jade, Pastora Soler, Yohanna, Dino Merlin, Tom Dice, and so on...
 

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I'm not so much for the return of whole orchestra, because it simply isn't needed in most of the songs. However, it would be magnificent if they allowed real instruments on stage. The whole atmosphere just changes if everything's performed live. Besides that, I think that it would bring better and more known rock bands to Eurovision too. There's really no point of Coldplay (just an example, because they're known for their good live performances) participating on Eurovision, if they can't play the gig live.

With a real band on stage, Eurovision's status would definitely change. People wouldn't consider it as a "karaoke show" anymore.
 

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I'm not so much for the return of whole orchestra, because it simply isn't needed in most of the songs. However, it would be magnificent if they allowed real instruments on stage. The whole atmosphere just changes if everything's performed live. Besides that, I think that it would bring better and more known rock bands to Eurovision too. There's really no point of Coldplay (just an example, because they're known for their good live performances) participating on Eurovision, if they can't play the gig live.

With a real band on stage, Eurovision's status would definitely change. People wouldn't consider it as a "karaoke show" anymore.

You're dead right. In 2011 I was urging everyone I knew to vote for Moldova and a few of my friends told me they wouldn't because it's clear they're not even playing their instruments, they're terrible musicians. Now while that's not true and they're more than adept at their instruments, the rule does take away a great amount of legitimacy from the performances.
 

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It's a practicality problem. There just isn't time to arrange and tune instruments in the 30 seconds they have between each performance.

The only option, I guess, would be a revolving stage where the next couple of acts can be sorted out while other performers are singing. I don't think it's worth the bother or the backlash from angry bands if they get the sound wrong.

Exactly, that's what it comes down to. I don't think people understand the technical aspect of allowing live instruments onstage. I mean just look at a normal concert of your favorite band and the equipment that's needed to get that working. With only 30 seconds or so between songs, it's just not feasable.
 

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Live music is the best, intstrumental and vocal wise alike. So yeah, a live orchestra/band or whatever would be really appreciated from my side.
 

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I've been wondering - when artists come onto the stage with their instruments, but the music is from playback, what do they do with them? Do they pretend to play them (and actually not touch the strings of the guitar for example) or they do play them, but the soundtrack drowns out the real sound?
 

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They're not heard because they're not miked. In case of drums and things like that, i can imagine there's a hideous noise on stage if you're close enough though, especially with the artists that obviously couldn't play their instruments, as with Russia's "Lost and Forgotten" for example, the drummer was completely off time and just hitting the cymbals randomly :D
 
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