Lena set to defend her crown in 2011! Good or bad idea?

[Shalala]

I wouldn't take it all too seriously. I personally don't believe that she will be starting next year and i also think, it would be a bad idea.

It's pretty obvious that she's being pushed by Stefan Raab and that statement was 1 day after winning and nearly 360 days before the next ESC. There will be very much time to redecide and to start a new casting. And for Lena to realize that she cannot win a second time.

I am absolutely sure it's a big disadvantage. She would be better next year, the song could(!) be better, but i believe that juries and audience will vote a lot less likely for the same person again.

Its anyways very very hard for whoever will follow as german participant.

 

[charlesf]

And for Lena to realize that she cannot win a second time.

You simply don't know that. There's no evidence to prove your assertion. This is just your own hunch.

An ESC entry has statistically a 2-3% chance of winning. Obviously Lena would have a better chance than that. She's famous and she's liked across the continent, both as a musician and person. And her style fits the times.

I think that counts for something. Say a 10-20% chance of winning. And when we know what she'll sing, we can handicap her chances a lot better.

Just because nobody has won twice in a row doesn't mean it's impossible. It's merely unlikely.

 

[FallenAngelII]

An ESC entry has statistically a 2-3% chance of winning.

That's not how statistics work in the ESC because it is not random.

Just because nobody has won twice in a row doesn't mean it's impossible. It's merely unlikely.

Johnny Logan has won thrice... twice as a singer and once as merely a composer. It has happened. It's only happened once, though.

 

[94ayd]

Just because nobody has won twice in a row doesn't mean it's impossible. It's merely unlikely.

Johnny Logan has won thrice... twice as a singer and once as merely a composer. It has happened. It's only happened once, though.

IN A ROW, Hello! Do 1980, 1987 & 1992 follow each other...

 

[Shalala]

IN A ROW, Hello! Do 1980, 1987 & 1992 follow each other...

Ha, they don't. :?

The only real reference is from 1958, when a winner tried it directly again and fell from the first palce on the last place.

And if Lena has a chance at all, it's not 2-3% or 10-20%. We don't know it because none of the songs/artists are already known. And then ESC always had the potential for big surprises.

I just think you shouldn't try to defend the title. Many won't vote a second time in a row the same artist for different reasons (many were mentionned already and i personnally wouldn't vote for the last years winner because i'd like to have a new winner).

 

[samy2010]

Absolutely great idea!!

 

[teroh]

All the experts and Eurovision guys in Germany say "NO" (and most of the Lena fans, too!), so I guess Raab will eventually have to back down.

With each day that passes, I'm getting more and more sure that Lena will not participate again.

 

[alca]

Good for her.

 

[teroh]

Actually the idea was completely Raab's, Lena just said "yea why not" and that was basically in the middle of the celebrations of the victory!

Raab was getting a bit megalomaniac, thinking that only Lena was able to win for Germany (which is nonsense, obviously) and Raab wants to win with his own song in one of the next few years, that's very obvious.

He will not be able to let go of the Contest until he finally wins with his own song. He wants the trophy in his own cupboard, not in the one of an American who had never heard about ESC until 3 months ago, and I'm sure he will succeed eventually, but not with Lena.

Raab's songs have always been successful in the ESC (1998: #7, 2000: #5, 2004: #8) so he knows how to write songs that stand a chance in the contest.

 

[wittgenstein]

worst idea.

 

[Milos-BC]

Yeah, I think that was just a rumor. But it is a bad idea, and a very bad one. She won, and she has a big potential to build her career on that victory, and by participating again she can only end up (much) worse than in Oslo.

 

[teroh]

But who knows, Raab is a professional who only plays to win. If he gets his own song into the competition next year with Lena, he will even make much more effort than this year, because then he wants to achieve something nobody has ever achieved in the ESC (winning twice in a row with the same artist). And he will not refrain from spending a lot of money and doing all the promotion he can to make sure for a very good result.

I'm pretty sure that if Lena competes again in 2011, she will be the runaway youtube winner once again. And youtube winners never fail dramatically.

So I guess if she participates next year again (with a Raab song probably) she will be Top 10 despite all the haters, because Raab does not fail and will not fail.

Plus, she would get her own show in which the audience chooses only the song. And then there will be more songs than only 3 to choose from, that's for sure. They will make sure that she has a song that's even better than Satellite (a tough challenge for Raab to compose a song better than Satellite, but he has about 10 months, so he may be able to do it ^^)

But, as stated previously, nothing is decided yet. I would say the chances of Lena competing again are around 50% at the moment.

 

[charlesf]

But, as stated previously, nothing is decided yet. I would say the chances of Lena competing again are around 50% at the moment.

Not decided yet?!?

Wanna take up a fifty-fifty bet?

 

[JackBauer]

I think singers & composers in general don't get what it takes to win eurovision.

It takes a song, sometimes a good one a great performances but also a great draw, a lot of luck, it depends on song before and after you etc.

A lot of amazing singers, with great songs have entered the contest only to achieve a decent top 10 and sometimes a very disapointed placing.

You can watch all eurovision again, how many times do you really thing the best song & performance did win? i would say no higher than 10 times. People votes for something they like after all, they don't vote for it because it was something greatly performed or a good song.


Should have Lena sing at number two, between let's say Romania, Iceland & France & Moldova after it i don't think she would have won and it's true for 99% of the previous winner in my opinion.

Lena was great and europe liked her and she should be happy with it.

Look at Charlotte in 08, Chiara in 09. Their song & performance weren't that bad and still they scored almost nothing from people who put them on top a few years ago.

If any winner thinks he won because he was simply the best vocally & had the best song and that with another good song he will win for sure then he is a perfect idiot.m

 

[manialf]

She will release a new single soon. Called touch a new day from her album

Listen to it: http://eurovisiontimes.wordpress.com/20 ... a-new-day/

 

[teroh]

She will release a new single soon. Called touch a new day from her album

Listen to it: http://eurovisiontimes.wordpress.com/20 ... a-new-day/

This is a PITCHED version (so that it's not detected by the Brainpool police) !! Not the original. The original version cannot be listened to on Youtube, which will unfortunately hold true for all Lena songs except Satellite.

Her record company does not like Youtube at all, it's just like that. Satellite, too, got deleted for a long time whenever it was uploaded, and it was only after huge protest from the fans that they finally seemed to understand that Youtube is important for an ESC entry.

But since her following singles won't be ESC entries, there's no chance for them to survive on Youtube.

 

[Jukica]

Bad idea because other singers deserve a chance too and she could flop with 2 years in row ... she could wait 1 or 2 years

 

[Dervan]

I still don't know whether its a good or bad idea...

but funny to read that some other artist wont have the chance to participate by a second lena esc entry and she should start some years later... it doesnt make a difference if she starts 2011 or 2020... both possibilities mean other artists wont have a chance ^^

 

[Lizo]

well, raab is known for some "crazy" and risky ideas... the good or bad thing is, that they are almost always a success.... one argument for lena in esc2011 is, that they can start to prepare for it now. im sure lena wants to write an own song and show it to europe. and im pretty sure that she will surprise everyone. there are so many people wo say that she cant sing and dance. but she takes dance lessons since she was 5 and she could easily dance some michael jackson choreo when she wants itt xD. she even surprised everyone in the national final with this song

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd8qvs ... sity_music

stefan raabs jurycomment to this performance: wow! i never thought that you can actually sing! xD

 

[ParadiseES]

It looks like it's official. Lena will represent Germany for the second year in a row.

Obviously, as a huge majority says, that's not a good idea. Actually, I don't know what they were thinking to take this decission, both Lena and NDR... :?