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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2016

As :au: is taking part (Non associated member), EBU don't have any excuses to keep :kz: out from Eurovision & EBU membership, even they are outside the European broadcasting area.

Hopefully they at least accept Kazakhstan as non associated member due their loyalty in Broadcast live ESC from 2007.

And if Kazakhstan are accepted to join in ESC, Kesh You is my favorite suggestion for make a great debut xheartxheart

 

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Kazakhstan is one of the main reasons I was opposed to Australia joining the contest. Yes, there are tons of Australian fans, who are traveling across the globe to attend the event and it's immensely popular there. However, Kazakhstan has been trying to join the Eurovision family for years and is still waiting. So hopefully now that the contest is evolving into something that goes beyond the EBU borders, it only makes sense to let them in as well.

The fact that Kazakhstan is sending a delegation to Vienna, is giving me some hope that there may be a chance we'll see them in 2016. How awesome would that be?
 

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Kazakhstan actually has a part of the territory in Europe. I would love to see them in, Ukraine can take another break year for all I care. ^^
 

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As tradition has it, here's hoping for Ulytau this year as well.


Though they'll need some vocals.
 

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:kz: for 2016 pleaaaase xpray xcheer They have a lot of potential
 

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Its seems that :kz: is not longer interested in Eurovision :( since Khabar TV this year opted not to Broadcast the show, due to the low rates of views of competition among Kazakh TV viewers over the past years.
 

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Well... if they gonna let Australia in permanently (hope they won't) then there are no arguments left for not letting in Kazakhstan which unlike Australia (which is almost as far from Europe as you can possibly get geographically) actually has a continental European part while the rest is a direct neighbor to Europe.
 

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Its seems that :kz: is not longer interested in Eurovision :( since Khabar TV this year opted not to Broadcast the show, due to the low rates of views of competition among Kazakh TV viewers over the past years.

They sent a delegation this year
 

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Re: KAZAKHSTAN 2016

Sorry but no, we have more links with Australia, which have european roots, than Kazakhstan.

Well, Kazhakstan actually is in Europe.
Plus you're forgetting Europe is not just western Europe. And the eastern countries definitely do have more links to Kazhakstan than to Australia.
 

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Sorry but no, we have more links with Australia, which have european roots, than Kazakhstan.

Ehm? Australia is almost as far geographically from Europe as it could possibly get.

There's more to Europe than Western Europe and the UK you know that right? If we allow a country which is the most far away from Europe one could get, but close the door to a country that is IN Europe... then it's just hypocritical and the judgment is based solely on an Anglo/West-centric world-view and a ranking of countries, cultures and languages and nothing else...
 

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Agreed, Kazakhstan really deserves to make their debut.
 

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I would love to see :kz: debuting, but I'm afraid that it will strengthen bloc voting. It's not hard to predict who would they be voting for...
 

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I would love to see :kz: debuting, but I'm afraid that it will strengthen bloc voting. It's not hard to predict who would they be voting for...

Might very well happen, but then again should we allow a country that is on the other side of the planet because it belongs to the "right culture" but not a European country because of potential bloc voting of the "wrong countries"? I'd say that reasoning is very scary...
 

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Might very well happen, but then again should we allow a country that is on the other side of the planet because it belongs to the "right culture" but not a European country because of potential bloc voting of the "wrong countries"? I'd say that reasoning is very scary...

Well, that's true. I think allowing :au: to participate was a big mistake, because now every country outside of Europe can claim their right to participate. EBU cannot refuse :kz: to participate as it is partially in Europe, unlike Australia - and if the rumors that Kazakh delegation was present in Vienna, then I think it's clear that the debut is inevitable.
 

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Well, that's true. I think allowing :au: to participate was a big mistake, because now every country outside of Europe can claim their right to participate. EBU cannot refuse :kz: to participate as it is partially in Europe, unlike Australia - and if the rumors that Kazakh delegation was present in Vienna, then I think it's clear that the debut is inevitable.

I always thought that their reasoning for not allowing :kz: (which is partly within continental Europe) was dubious, and with allowing (and potentially permanent) Australia it proves even further that EBU only talk cr*p.

I don't think Australia should be let back, they did their anniversary thing and they didn't win so that's that... and like you said making them permanent will make other arguments against non-European countries entering (and especially countries that ARE partly European) look very hypocritical...
 

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Will the Expo 2017 help :kz: to join the EBU and the Eurovision? Just wondering with no-sense connections! :mrgreen:
 

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It's not hard to predict who would they be voting for...

They'd give 8 to Russia, 10 and 12 to Turkey and Azerbaijan (not sure who would get which)

Bloc voting is an uncontrollable reality in the contest, we should try to live with it. Just enjoy the contest, it doesn't determine the winner for most of the time.
 
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