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spinachpie said:
Why are her odds slipping so much? It's such a good performance
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Bookmakers know many things that bettors don't. Perhaps they have learned that Rai is not willing to host the ESC and, as it has historically done before its return, is trying to sabotage its artist. They want a top 5 or top 10 and nothing more. The hypothesis is strengthened if we think about the disclosure of the data which has cast shadows on poor Angelina and that Rai is experiencing a hard period of internal changes and protests by its journalists.
 
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Paco Roca said:
Bookmakers know many things that bettors don't. Perhaps they have learned that Rai is not willing to host the ESC and, as it has historically done before its return, is trying to sabotage its artist. They want a top 5 or top 10 and nothing more. The hypothesis is strengthened if we think about the disclosure of the data which has cast shadows on poor Angelina and that Rai is experiencing a hard period of internal changes and protests by its journalists.
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Hmm this isn't how odds work.

It's simply by the number of bets being placed. More bets placed equals higher odds. Less bets equals lower odds.

I'm just puzzled why less people are betting
 
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Paco Roca said:
Bookmakers know many things that bettors don't. Perhaps they have learned that Rai is not willing to host the ESC and, as it has historically done before its return, is trying to sabotage its artist. They want a top 5 or top 10 and nothing more. The hypothesis is strengthened if we think about the disclosure of the data which has cast shadows on poor Angelina and that Rai is experiencing a hard period of internal changes and protests by its journalists.
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what????
As an Italian I can tell you that you are wrong. I know RAI and its dynamics which are the same as all public television networks in Europe. Don't be brainwashed by propaganda!
 
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Italy is not winning because of the staging unfortunately. Angelina looks a bit uncomfortable with the choreo (and what about those shoes?), it would be much better if she was allowed to improv her movements more and if there were more closeups of her playing to the camera like in San Remo.
I like the idea of Queen of Thorns for the staging but the execution is meh, the LEDs look blurry and their outfits disappear in the background, making it hard to notice the motions.
 
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spinachpie said:
Hmm this isn't how odds work.

It's simply by the number of bets being placed. More bets placed equals higher odds. Less bets equals lower odds.

I'm just puzzled why less people are betting
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Yeah, I need to second this. Bookmakers just need to come up with the opening prices (mostly they will just copy what the others are already offering) and then follow the money (setting limits, balancing liabilities, basic risk management). What bookies can do is profile the accounts, tag some of them as sharp punters, and give more power to certain bets based on their track record. I would say 99% of the odds movements are re-active to the way money moves, and maybe 1% is pro-active.

If Italy's odds are slipping, it is because more money is being bet on others to win, or money is being bet directly against Italy not to win. It is not because bookies have some secret contacts with EBU.

Source: I've been working in the sports betting industry for a decade.
 
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Last year it was 6 consecutive top 6 finishes, and now Italy has 7 consecutive top 7 finishes! Congrats! Will they get 8th next year? :sneaky:
 
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Well, my doubts about this being a Televote Magnet apparently were correct. This song is more a jury pleaser, Sanremo already told us this. Great result anyway, best from and Italian female soloist since... Mälmo 1992, and the fourth place achieved by the great Mia Martini, who left this World exactly 29 years ago. How time flies and what a coincidence.
 
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