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escYOUnited

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Ho sognato di volare con te
Su una bici di diamanti
Mi hai detto: "Sei cambiato, non vedo
Più la luce nei tuoi occhi"

La tua paura cos'è?
Un mare dove non tocchi mai
Anche se il sesso non è
La via di fuga dal fondo

Dai, non scappare da qui
Non lasciarmi così
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Tu, che mi svegli il mattino
Tu, che sporchi il letto di vino
Tu, che mi mordi la pelle
Con i tuoi occhi da vipera

E tu, sei il contrario di un angelo
E tu, sei come un pugile all'angolo
E tu scappi da qui, mi lasci così

Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi

Dimmi che non ho ragione
E vivo dentro una prigione
E provo a restarti vicino
Ma scusa se poi mando tutto a puttane e

Non so dirti ciò che provo, è un mio limite
Per un "ti amo" ho mischiato droghe e lacrime
Questo veleno che ci sputiamo ogni giorno
Io non lo voglio più addosso

Lo vedi, sono qui
Su una bici di diamanti, uno fra tanti
Nudo con i brividi
A volte non so esprimermi

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E ti vorrei rubare un cielo di perle
E pagherei per andar via
Accetterei anche una bugia

E ti vorrei amare, ma sbaglio sempre
E mi vengono i brividi, brividi, brividi​
 
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Be careful what you say. For many, the stage, the location of the Turquoise Carpet, the hosts, the song, etc., etc. are bad. We are facing an epic disaster. They are portraying it as a circus ruled by freaks 🤣

We'll see. So far, I'm impressed by the beauty of the pictures coming from Venaria. To think that this is the same country that some years ago didn't want to host Eurovision, and now look at this!
 

PolarFoxxie.

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I wonder, is this the first time that a royal palace has hosted an eurovision event?
That was a Royal palace? I thought Italy is a a republic and not a Kingdom.
PS. Problems with Italian Organisation continue. Hosts can't speak English, they Made several mistakes when announcing artists Like they said Netherlands won Eurovision 7 times, Greece Best result is 10th place...:rolleyes: Also, there were some protests and security issues during mahmood intro. Also, this ceremony is the longest opening ceremony in the history of Eurovision. Literally, took longer than Olympic games ceremony. Mi dispiace molto, pero that is facts and truth.
 

Zerocalcare

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That was a Royal palace? I thought Italy is a a republic and not a Kingdom.
PS. Problems with Italian Organisation continue. Hosts can't speak English, they Made several mistakes when announcing artists Like they said Netherlands won Eurovision 7 times, Greece Best result is 10th place...:rolleyes: Also, there were some protests and security issues during mahmood intro. Also, this ceremony is the longest opening ceremony in the history of Eurovision. Literally, took longer than Olympic games ceremony. Mi dispiace molto, pero that is facts and truth.
Italy before unification, if we want to talk about facts, was made up of kingdoms. Piedmont was the center of the Savoy Kingdom of the Savoy family (which remained in power until the end of the Second World War). Therefore, it is not uncommon to find royal palaces in Italy. If I remember correctly, there are 26! I invite you to study history.

However, there have been mistakes. It must be admitted. But not as bad as many people want you to believe. Some have a desire to combine this experience of 2022 with 1991 so that everything looks like a disaster. Italy is paying a little for inexperience. This is the first modern ESC for Italy. However, it is from these small unexpected events that we can grow and improve.

Our hosts spoke in English (denying that nobody in Italy speaks English). Obviously the pronunciation was not very good. Gabriele Corsi was able to compensate his rusty English with a little improvisation while the woman made some mistakes but then got better with the passage of time. I would have preferred Mika, Cattelan and Pausini to take care of the ceremony but in any case I feel satisfied. The atmosphere, apart from the bad weather, was light and pleasant.

Regarding safety, are you sure that no worse has happened in the other Eurovision Song Contests? If I remember correctly, I still remember a fat Australian flag fan (whose butt was also visible) trying to get on stage in Ukraine but he was stopped by security guards. Instead, even worse, in Israel the Hatari risked causing a diplomatic case to break out. There are not a few examples. Again, when you want to talk about the facts, don't choose the ones you need to sew your weird theories.
 
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PolarFoxxie.

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Ohhh please, Italy has already had problems more than 3 previous Hosts combined and it hasn't even started. I am sure there will be more. Lol...:ROFLMAO: a Man would think that country that hosted Olympics in Turin and Euro etc would be better prepared for international Events.
PS is this mario acampa gay or is only mika Gay host? Now, i hope i won't see things like it doesn't matter, it isn't your problem, who cares". I'm curious, i wanna know about Italy and Italy in ESC.

PS Mahmoud looked fabulous in that pink dress.
 

nudiecrudi

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Ohhh please, Italy has already had problems more than 3 previous Hosts combined and it hasn't even started. I am sure there will be more. Lol...:ROFLMAO: a Man would think that country that hosted Olympics in Turin and Euro etc would be better prepared for international Events.
PS is this mario acampa gay or is only mika Gay host? Now, i hope i won't see things like it doesn't matter, it isn't your problem, who cares". I'm curious, i wanna know about Italy and Italy in ESC.

PS Mahmoud looked fabulous in that pink dress.
Yes my friend Polar. We are a shit country. We are doing a very bad hosting. Nothing to save. A total disaster. Venues are terrible, totally disorganized. Italy should be banned from ESC. Mahmood and Blanco deserve 0 points and if not banned Italy for the next 10 years minimum should be bottom 5.
You are right. ❤️❤️❤️
 

lacrymea

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Yes my friend Polar. We are a shit country. We are doing a very bad hosting. Nothing to save. A total disaster. Venues are terrible, totally disorganized. Italy should be banned from ESC. Mahmood and Blanco deserve 0 points and if not banned Italy for the next 10 years minimum should be bottom 5.
You are right. ❤️❤️❤️
At this point, that user should just be banned. It's not even trolling anymore, it's just borderline xenophobia.

I'm not even Italian and I feel uncomfortable reading all the gibberish spread on this thread.
 

nudiecrudi

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Only two or three elements don't ruin the general moderation this forum has shown.
It's up to who rules this forum to shut up those voices or to let them troll continuously.
 

Ajeje Brazorf

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Ohhh please, Italy has already had problems more than 3 previous Hosts combined and it hasn't even started. I am sure there will be more. Lol...:ROFLMAO: a Man would think that country that hosted Olympics in Turin and Euro etc would be better prepared for international Events.
PS is this mario acampa gay or is only mika Gay host? Now, i hope i won't see things like it doesn't matter, it isn't your problem, who cares". I'm curious, i wanna know about Italy and Italy in ESC.

PS Mahmoud looked fabulous in that pink dress.

You wanna know about Italy? Come visit us! We may seem arrogant, but we are warm people expecially when someone comes to visit us. I promise you: you will never forget your journey. You will really enjoy it.

Do you want to know about Italy in ESC? Keep yourself comfortable, because it will be a long long travel back in time. Well, let's say every country has it's own history in ESC. Our history in ESC started long ago, actually before Eurovision even started: we may not be the best in building stages, but apparently we are good in building formats, since Sergio Pugliese was actually Italian and his idea brought Eurovision to life. His idea was to bring people together under the same flag made of unity, friendship and tolerance, together united in music, the most powerful way to put all those things together. In the competition, we had our ups and downs, like every other country: in the '60s Eurovision Winners were really appreciated in Italy and they were often invited to take part at Sanremo as participants, then in the late '70 and '80 Sanremo literally collapsed: discographics didn't want to send their best singers to Sanremo and started to boycott the competition, as a result Sanremo plummeted into mediocrity. The turning point was Sanremo 1989 when Renato Pozzetto, a popular Italian comedian, was designed to host but refused at last moment and 4 teenagers without any stage experience were put there to host only because they were sons and daughters of celeb fathers. The result was tragic (even worse then the 1991 Eurovision way of tragic. If you have not seen it, go check it for yourself) and Rai decided to focus on Sanremo to bring back the festival to his old popularity. Meanwhile Eurovision was still going on and just one year after Toto surprisingly won in Zagreb after Pooh refused to go with Sanremo's winning song "Uomini Soli" and this fact caught RAI out of guard because they had invested all in the strangest Sanremo ever, hosted under a huge marquee called Palafiori because of the the ongoing restructuring works at Ariston Theatre. What Eurofans didn't remember is the events before Eurovision 1991 which determined the way the contest is remembered today. Let's start from the beginning: initially RAI planned to do Eurovision in Sanremo and to have the same host of Sanremo (Andrea Occhipinti) but he apparently declined. Also, with the Yugoslav wars and Persic Gulf war ongoing it was decided to move the contest to Rome for security issues. With time running out, RAI had to face the fact they didn't have a host (like in Sanremo 1989) or a venue (like in Sanremo 1990). So they acted rapidly and in radical manners. They called Toto and Gigliola to ask them to host (better call two beloved singers than four teenage apprentices, I'm sure they thought this...) and they accepted because of the love they had for the contest. Next it was decided to host the contest in studio 15 in Cinecittá, a small studio, owned by RAI, because they literally didn't have any time left to build a venue ex-novo in that short time (well, better than the sub-zero temperatures of Palafiori... I'm pretty sure they thought this too). Toto didn't speak English so the contest was entirely in Italian with the famous "allora's". The results add salt to the wound, with the first and to this date only tie-break (not counting the four-way-tie for the win of 1969), with Gigliola and Toto asking who was the winner. But, I can't hate that contest at all: it was really intimate, it didn't seem Eurovision at all, that is the problem) RAI was done after that and decided eventually to withdraw to focus only on Sanremo. For twenty years in Italy Eurovision had literally disappeared, leaving his long lost brother "Jeux Sans Frontieres" the only EBU/UER production visible in Italy (please EBU, bring it back!), while Sanremo regained popularity with the Baudo era, breaking record after record of viewers. As long as time passed by, by the way, it was clear that something was missing: it's like Italy discovered they miss a child, a beautiful child which had grown up but was struggling to be back to his former glorious days. And that child was missing one of his parents too. So they found theirselves together in an embrace in 2011 and from then, well, you know what happened and who knows what history will bring next, but one thing I know is that this story will have a lot more pages in the future. And I'm happy with it.
 
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PolarFoxxie.

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I already was in Italy in a school trip long time ago. I might go again, once everyone gets equal rights. So is mario acampa gay.

Ontopic, who is Designer of Mahmood pink dress? Love it. A
 

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You wanna know about Italy? Come visit us! We may seem arrogant, but we are warm people expecially when someone comes to visit us. I promise you: you will never forget your journey. You will really enjoy it.

Vuoi conoscere l'Italia in ESC? Mettiti comodo, perché sarà un lungo viaggio indietro nel tempo. Bene, diciamo che ogni paese ha la sua storia in ESC. La nostra storia in ESC è iniziata molto tempo fa, anzi prima ancora che l'Eurovision iniziasse: potremmo non essere i migliori nelle fasi di costruzione, ma a quanto pare siamo bravi a costruire formati, dal momento che Sergio Pugliese era in realtà italiano e la sua idea ha dato vita all'Eurovision. La sua idea era quella di riunire le persone sotto la stessa bandiera fatta di unità, amicizia e tolleranza, unite nella musica, il modo più potente per mettere insieme tutte queste cose. Nella competizione abbiamo avuto i nostri alti e bassi, come ogni altro Paese: negli anni '60 i vincitori dell'Eurovisione erano molto apprezzati in Italia e spesso venivano invitati a partecipare a Sanremo come partecipanti, poi alla fine' Sanremo 70 e 80 crolla letteralmente: la discografia non vuole mandare a Sanremo i suoi migliori cantanti e inizia a boicottare la concorrenza, di conseguenza Sanremo precipita nella mediocrità. La svolta fu Sanremo 1989 quando Renato Pozzetto, popolare comico italiano, fu pensato per ospitare ma all'ultimo momento rifiutò e 4 adolescenti senza alcuna esperienza teatrale furono messi lì ad ospitare solo perché figli e figlie di padri celebri. Il risultato fu tragico (anche peggio del tragico modo dell'Eurovision del 1991. Se non l'avete visto, andate a verificarlo di persona) e la Rai decise di puntare su Sanremo per riportare il festival alla sua vecchia popolarità. Nel frattempo l'Eurovision era ancora in corso e solo un anno dopo che Toto vinse a sorpresa a Zagabria dopo che i Pooh si rifiutarono di andare con la canzone vincitrice di Sanremo "Uomini Soli" e questo fatto ha colto alla sprovvista la RAI perché aveva investito tutto nel Sanremo più strano di sempre, ospitato sotto un enorme tendone chiamato Palafiori per via dei lavori di ristrutturazione in corso al Teatro Ariston. Quello che Eurofans non ricordava sono gli eventi prima dell'Eurovision 1991 che hanno determinato il modo in cui il concorso è ricordato oggi. Partiamo dall'inizio: inizialmente la RAI aveva programmato di fare l'Eurovision a Sanremo e di avere lo stesso conduttore di Sanremo (Andrea Occhipinti) ma a quanto pare ha rifiutato. Inoltre, con le guerre jugoslave e la guerra del Golfo Persico in corso, si decise di spostare la gara a Roma per questioni di sicurezza. Con il passare del tempo, la RAI ha dovuto fare i conti con il fatto di non avere un conduttore (come a Sanremo 1989) né una sede (come a Sanremo 1990). Così hanno agito rapidamente e in maniera radicale. Chiamarono Toto e Gigliola per chiedere loro di ospitare (meglio chiamare due cantanti amati che quattro apprendisti adolescenti, sono sicuro che l'hanno pensato...) e hanno accettato per l'amore che avevano per il concorso. Successivamente si decise di ospitare il contest nello studio 15 di Cinecittà, un piccolo studio, di proprietà della RAI, perché letteralmente non avevano più tempo per costruire un locale ex novo in quel poco tempo (beh, meglio del sub -zero temperature del Palafiori... sono abbastanza sicuro che lo abbiano pensato anche loro). Toto non parlava inglese quindi il concorso era interamente in italiano con i famosi "allora's". I risultati aggiungono sale alla ferita, con il primo e fino a questa data unico tie-break (senza contare i quattro pareggi per la vittoria del 1969), con Gigliola e Toto che si chiedono chi fosse il vincitore. Ma non posso odiare affatto quel concorso: era molto intimo, non sembrava per niente Eurovision, questo è il problema) la RAI poi se n'è andata e alla fine ha deciso di ritirarsi per puntare solo su Sanremo. Per vent'anni in Italia l'Eurovision era letteralmente scomparsa, lasciando il fratello perduto da tempo "Jeux Sans Frontieres" l'unica produzione EBU/UER visibile in Italia (per favore EBU, riportalo indietro!), mentre Sanremo ha riguadagnato popolarità con l'era Baudo, battendo record dopo il record di spettatori. Con il passare del tempo, tra l'altro, era chiaro che mancava qualcosa: è come se l'Italia avesse scoperto di sentire la mancanza di un bambino, un bambino bellissimo che era cresciuto ma stava lottando per tornare ai suoi giorni gloriosi. E a quel bambino mancava anche uno dei suoi genitori. Così si sono ritrovati insieme in un abbraccio nel 2011 e da allora, beh, sai cosa è successo e chissà cosa porterà la storia dopo, ma una cosa che so è che questa storia avrà molte più pagine in futuro. E ne sono felice.
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I'm laughing hard at this:


"Less than a week until the next drug test required by France"
And that pic! :ROFLMAO:

It brought so many memories about that circus of fake scandal fueled by the French press, TV presenters and even some politician asking for disqualification. Oh and how can I forget that tweet from a Spanish woman saying she had to bring her little daughter to the hospital after she had snorted some salt to imitate Damiano! Nowadays "go snort some salt" is a popular reply to toxic Spanish Eurofans' tweets hell-bent to destroy Italy. I'm still cackling at those memories. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'm laughing hard at this:


"Less than a week until the next drug test required by France"
And that pic! :ROFLMAO:

It brought so many memories about that circus of fake scandal fueled by the French press, TV presenters and even some politician asking for disqualification. Oh and how can I forget that tweet from a Spanish woman saying she had to bring her little daughter to the hospital after she had snorted some salt to imitate Damiano! Nowadays "go snort some salt" is a popular reply to toxic Spanish Eurofans' tweets hell-bent to destroy Italy. I'm still cackling at those memories. :ROFLMAO:
Every year in the international forums is a real battle. Mup get ready the adventure is about to start again! Are you ready? 🤣

 

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As a matter of fact I'm not watching ESC nor commenting that much, I'll catch up with the performances on YT later. I expressed my support to some countries in their threads but the toxicity levels this year put me off, so I decided to do something else instead of watching ESC and commenting daily. Hopefully from next year EBU will decide to do all rehearsals behind closed doors, that's what toxic fans deserve.

For those of you who will be watching, enjoy the show!
 

Ajeje Brazorf

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They performed on tonight jury show and their vocals seemed really good. As I said, I'm more worried about the staging and the song than their voices. But maybe it's only me...
 

harey

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They performed on tonight jury show and their vocals seemed really good. As I said, I'm more worried about the staging and the song than their voices. But maybe it's only me...
From the rehearsal clip there are too many lights, it looks more like an uptempo/power song, I thought that something intimate would be better. But I haven't seen entirely the song with the tv edit so maybe it looks better, i don't know.
 
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