Italy ITALY 2021 - Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

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Sanremo 2021: Vote for YOUR favourite!

Loro non sanno di che parlo
Voi siete sporchi, fra’, di fango
Giallo di siga’ fra le dita
Io con la siga’ camminando
Scusami, ma ci credo tanto
Che posso fare questo salto
Anche se la strada è in salita
Per questo ora mi sto allenando

E buonasera signore e signori
Fuori gli attori
Vi conviene toccarvi i coglioni
Vi conviene stare zitti e buoni
Qui la gente è strana, tipo spacciatori
Troppe notti stavo chiuso fuori
Mo’ li prendo a calci, ‘sti portoni
Sguardo in alto, tipo scalatori
Quindi scusa mamma se sto sempre fuori, ma

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
No

Io ho scritto pagine e pagine
Ho visto sale, poi lacrime
Questi uomini in macchina
Non scalare le rapide
Scritto sopra una lapide
"In casa mia non c’è Dio"
Ma se trovi il senso del tempo
Risalirai dal tuo oblio
E non c’è vento che fermi
La naturale potenza
Dal punto giusto di vista
Del vento senti l’ebrezza
Con ali in cera alla schiena
Ricercherò quell’altezza
Se vuoi fermarmi, ritenta
Prova a tagliarmi la testa
Perché

Sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
E parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cosa parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria
Parla la gente, purtroppo
Parla, non sa di che cazzo parla
Tu portami dove sto a galla
Che qui mi manca l’aria

Ma sono fuori di testa, ma diverso da loro
E tu sei fuori di testa, ma diversa da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro
Siamo fuori di testa, ma diversi da loro

Noi siamo diversi da loro​

 

[Ladynoir]

This is the first time since 2014 that I don't have Italy in my top 5, it's disorienting. I was getting attached to that Italian stan tittle my friends gave me.

I recognize this entry's quality tho and I can totally see it do very very well in may. It has a glam chic yet controversial vibe that can catch many people's attention. It's just not for me this time !

 

[Zeus]

I don't care really about winning, we all know what type of audience is attracted by the ESC, mainly people who like pop and want to have fun and comment on dancing and costumes.

I'll be satisified as long as they stirr up that uninspiring pop pond the ESC is and make a provocative or controversial live performance that will appaul almost everybody.

Even here in that forum game Italy most of the time ends in the top 5. I wouldn't be surprised if Italy wins (or finish top 3) with the televotes. Most of the time Italy does well with the televotes and there isn't something like a hate-vote. This entry already seem to have a strong fanbase. It will only grow when also the not typical Eurovision-fans tune in in May.

 

[Jopi]

My thoughts in the past days are that Italy is gonna take the televote.

 

[heke1988]

My thoughts in the past days are that Italy is gonna take the televote.

I think it depends on is Italy going to perform at first-half or second-half in Grand Final and which number. But absolutely Italy will be TOP 5 in tele rank, if all goes well.

 

[Remisan]

The problem is that they are not promoted at all. Look at Eurovision Instagram, to whom there are links and about whom there is a lot of material? But Maneskin ... and where is Maneskin?

And they themselves, in my opinion, are not trying to create a lot of hype. At the pre-party, they just came and sang (and I would say that their performance was deliberately ironic, if you remember what some people said about them. The Beatles clothes, the "garage" in which they sang , not to mention the expression on Damiano's face when he sent the censorship to hell with one slight movement)

And I like this version

maybe it all seems to me

 

[Jopi]

I think it depends on is Italy going to perform at first-half or second-half in Grand Final and which number. But absolutely Italy will be TOP 5 in tele rank, if all goes well.

I agree that it kinda depends on the running order. But, for some reason I can see them closing the grand final.

 

[Jopi]

The problem is that they are not promoted at all. Look at Eurovision Instagram, to whom there are links and about whom there is a lot of material? But Maneskin ... and where is Maneskin?
And they themselves, in my opinion, are not trying to create a lot of hype. Only fans advertise them. At the pre-party, they just came and sang (and I would say that their performance was so ... tired and ironic, if you remember what some people said about them. The Beatles clothes, the "garage" in which they sang , not to mention the expression on Damiano's face when he sent the censorship to hell with one slight movement)
But maybe it all seems to me.

Italian representitives are almost never promoting themselfs, bc they don't care about that nor I feel esc. They came, they sing and they end up high.

 

[Remisan]

Italian representitives are almost never promoting themselfs, bc they don't care about that nor I feel esc. They came, they sing and they end up high.

I don’t think they don’t care , rather it seems to me that they don’t want to make slow versions and don't try to please everyone.
It's only my impression (we don't know what other people really think)

By the way, I just respect their approach.

 

[Jopi]

Maybe yeah, I just get impression that the majority does not care about esc. But eather way, I respect them... In a sea of singers going around begging for votes... Italians are always like: Naaah...

 

[heke1988]

Most Finnish are same kind of: They are not voluntarily promoting themselves and are not begging to vote for them .

 

[sucof]

Thanks to the logic of the rai, this video has become a rare find like a dinosaur skeleton

Ps, A my opinion: Not to be "nationalist" but the quality of the scenographic rendering (which helps a lot to enhance the ebition) is sometimes lacking in Eurovision. It cannot be denied that the "elaborate" scenography, the orchestra and the play of light in Sanremo is at the top, unlike the Eurovision where everything is aesthetically very standard (the scenographies all look alike from year to year). I'm not saying it's ugly, but the Italian conception of scenography and lights is much more theatrical, unlike Eurovision where this is missing, in Europe scenography and light act as a filler, while in Italy it enhances every single performance .
I hope you understand me, it is not a negative note but a comparison between the two genres that I perceive.

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

This is the first time since 2014 that I don't have Italy in my top 5, it's disorienting. I was getting attached to that Italian stan tittle my friends gave me.

I recognize this entry's quality tho and I can totally see it do very very well in may. It has a glam chic yet controversial vibe that can catch many people's attention. It's just not for me this time !

Here's a list of almost all rock genres with examples. https://fouroverfour.jukely.com/culture/rock-genre-dictionary/

Maneskin is not glam rock. Period. They have nothing to do Bowie.

They are alternative grunge / garage rock.

They resemble the most to Nirvana/RCHP/White Stripes. Though these bands were loved by different people, it's really simple - they were loved by many and hated by many.

That's why ppl who like Maneskin understand that the wider audience might not like them.

The problem is that they are not promoted at all. Look at Eurovision Instagram, to whom there are links and about whom there is a lot of material? But Maneskin ... and where is Maneskin?

And they themselves, in my opinion, are not trying to create a lot of hype. At the pre-party, they just came and sang (and I would say that their performance was so ... ironic, if you remember what some people said about them. The Beatles clothes, the "garage" in which they sang , not to mention the expression on Damiano's face when he sent the censorship to hell with one slight movement)
But maybe it all seems to me.

I don't agree that the obviuous lack of promotion is some sort of resistence to the ESC. They had a European tour years ago and also make songs in English.

They actually have no strategy for the ESC and that is obvious. They did many events for Italian audience after Sanremo but for example did not give a single interview for foreign media.

I'm glad you mentioned that the yesterday's show was Beatles type as I noticed people who don't know much about rock saying that there was something off with how they sounded yesterday.

And the people were right since yesterday's performance was a garage version of the song.

The problem with Maneskin's yesterday live was not that they delivered another version, but that they did not communicate that!

They should have said sth like Hello Europe, this is Maneskin, we were born in a small garage, you will now hear how Zitti e buoni would sound in our beginnigs.

But no, instead they chose not communicate at all.

I don’t think they don’t care , rather it seems to me that they don’t want to adjust, make strange versions and try to please everyone.
It's only my impression (we don't know what other people really think)

By the way, I just respect their approach.

As I said this is not about intentionally not fitting in, this is poor managering.

People who like them don't want them to fit in, they are singing the song We are different from them and that's why they are liked.

But we do expect them to be present and active.

 

[4815162342]

I agree that it kinda depends on the running order. But, for some reason I can see them closing the grand final.

So.. closing the final in 2015, 2018 and 2021? If that happens it would mean from the last four times they drew second half, they got 3 out of 4 times the last slot.

 

[Ladynoir]

Here's a list of almost all rock genres with examples. https://fouroverfour.jukely.com/culture/rock-genre-dictionary/

Maneskin is not glam rock. Period. They have nothing to do Bowie.

Well, I never said it was glam rock. I said it has a glam and chic vibe, which is quite different and point out the fact that I'm not talking about their genre (I am not familiar with it you're right about that) but about my impression of them. But thank you for telling me about their style.

 

[Iker]

Most Finnish are same kind of: They are not voluntarily promoting themselves and are not begging to vote for them .

So both Italian and Finnish people are like the opposite of Maltese it turns out, lol.

 

[Remisan]

I don't agree that the obviuous lack of promotion is some sort of resistence to the ESC. They had a European tour years ago and also make songs in English.

But why did you get the meaning in my message that I did not attach?
They have no problems with Europe and english, of course. I didn’t even agree with the opinion that Eurovision is not important for them.

I only said what I said. Or they are not promoted by ESC (they were simply not offered interviews) or they are not promoting themselves now (may be will come later).
I think they do what they like to do, a version of the song that they like, it is no resistence to the ESC.

Why didn't they say "hello" - I don't know, Malta also had a song right away. I will be glad if they show more activity, but if there are reasons, it is their right not to show.

I am rather afraid that they are being deliberately pushed in. But this is also like this - fortune telling on the coffee grounds

 

[Remisan]

Uff, I am bad at expressing thoughts in English, corrected. In any case, it was just speculation. As say Maneskin, I chatted about what I do not know

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

But why did you get the meaning in my message that I did not attach?
They have no problems with Europe and english, of course. I didn’t even agree with the opinion that Eurovision is not important for them.

I only said what I said.
Or they are not promoted by ESC (they were simply not offered interviews, and they don't wont to impose themselves) or they are not promoting themselves now (may be, will come later).
I only meant that they didn't make a more pop version of the song. And just assumed that may be they joked a little about the opinions of some people about them. I think they do what they want - it is no resistence to the ESC. Just not an adjustment to the Eurovision audience.

Why didn't they say "hello" - I don't know, Malta also had a song right away. Maybe this is really an accident and not good management. I will be glad if they show more activity, but if there are reasons, it is their right not to show.

I am rather afraid that they are being deliberately pushed in. But this is also like this - fortune telling on the coffee grounds

IMO the ESC social media is not ignoring them. There's a month or so till the contest and I believe they will give everybody a fair shot in presenting themselves.

So far the official ESC page has presented several contestants only and in general has a few posts.

Also many YouTubers who are involved in the ESC like some kind of worship community haha, praise Maneskin very much.

They have even translated the lyrics for wider audience.

It's Maneskin being letargic and inactive.

 

[Jopi]

Also, everything done now is just being done for let's say esc fans...Begging for votes around is begging fans.... It's just important to be active and interested in ESC in May, during rehearsals and when the contest starts..

 

[nudiecrudi]

It is called LOW PROFILE.
Let the others fighting hardly to emerge.
They have to do the right things during the crucial moments.
Sony is Måneskin's discographic label and I think they have a strategy and economic power to help the group.
Nothing was left to casualties. Durin their sanremese week everything was perfectly organized. Their look, Etro designed their outfits, the make up, the arrangement, all on point.
So guys don't worry.
Just an information. After their Madrid preesc party their odds are shortening getting much closer to Switzerland.

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