Germany GERMANY 2024 - Isaak - Always on the Run

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[crashworld]

Germany finishing higher than Greece in the juries was the robbery of the season.

That mess of a performance and non-existent vocals from Greece, she and her fans should be thankful where she was placed.

Germany/Isaak totally deserved the placing with the juries.
Think what you want about the song, but Isaak totally brought it with his vocals.
Even if I didn't particularly like the studio version, the 'live' performance was great. It was a solid performance.

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

That mess of a performance and non-existent vocals from Greece, she and her fans should be thankful where she was placed.

Germany/Isaak totally deserved the placing with the juries.
Think what you want about the song, but Isaak totally brought it with his vocals.
Even if I didn't particularly like the studio version, the 'live' performance was great. It was a solid performance.

It's a televised song contest and Germany was the weakest both in staging and song. Yes he has a good voice and that will help him in a couple years when he enters the masked singer or the X factor once he needs to come back to the spotlight.

In the meantime Zari is #1 in Greece, how is the German song charing locally?

 

[Lumina]

I noticed you keep on talking other entries down in favour of the Greek entry. Please accept not everyone like the Greek song and not everyone thinks Isaak‘s song was bad!
In my little town "Always on the run" is played everywhere, people‘s houses, shops, local radio. AOTR has been played on the big German radio stations multiple times a day pre contest. We don’t care if he‘s entering the charts. We don’t need that validation like you obviously need for your country.

 

[Shadowfuxcs]

I noticed you keep on talking other entries down in favour of the Greek entry. Please accept not everyone like the Greek song and not everyone thinks Isaak‘s song was bad!
In my little town "Always on the run" is played everywhere, people‘s houses, shops, local radio. AOTR has been played on the big German radio stations multiple times a day pre contest. We don’t care if he‘s entering the charts. We don’t need that validation like you obviously need for your country.

Which other entry have I talked down apart from Germany? Just saying for this song to almost be top 10 with the jury is ridiculous. Instead of Greece I could also have used Lithuania or Norway as an example. It was too high.
I'm sure "running" will be a permanent feature in Aldi though.

 

[crashworld]

Germany was the weakest both in staging and song.

According to who? Televoters didn't give it zero, did they? Juries even ranked Germany's entry higher than your country's drivel of a song. So where in the world did you derive it was the weakest in both staging and song?

In the meantime Zari is #1 in Greece, how is the German song charing locally?

And what has LOCAL chart placement of the song (or any metrics of chart success) got to do with whether Germany's entry deserved a worse placement than Greece's when the discussion is about German's placing in the jury vote.

Please make it make sense and stop diverging.

 

[Realest]

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[Shadowfuxcs]

According to who? Televoters didn't give it zero, did they? Juries even ranked Germany's entry higher than your country's drivel of a song. So where in the world did you derive it was the weakest in both staging and song?


And what has LOCAL chart placement of the song (or any metrics of chart success) got to do with whether Germany's entry deserved a worse placement than Greece's when the discussion is about German's placing in the jury vote.

Please make it make sense and stop diverging.

You don't need to be so pressed, I merely stated my surprise about a single result.
Germany's song has been one of the most unpopular of the year since its release, coming towards the bottom in most rankings, odds, and barely being discussed about in general. They even flopped with the televote (18 points).
You even set the bar on Germany not getting 0, so obviously the song is not that strong to begin with.
So it's a bit strange to me how just a few juries had such a massively different opinion compared to everyone else.
And local chart success is absolutely relvevant as that is what most artists are aiming for, since most of the participants will not make it to the international market.
Eurovision is a great chance to start of to bolster their careers in their home countries. So I wonder if the Germans actually like this song, I haven't heard a response apart from anecdotal evidence.

 

[crashworld]

You don't need to be so pressed, I merely stated my surprise about a single result.
Germany's song has been one of the most unpopular of the year since its release, coming towards the bottom in most rankings, odds, and barely being discussed about in general. They even flopped with the televote (18 points).
You even set the bar on Germany not getting 0, so obviously the song is not that strong to begin with.
So it's a bit strange to me how just a few juries had such a massively different opinion compared to everyone else.
And local chart success is absolutely relvevant as that is what most artists are aiming for, since most of the participants will not make it to the international market.
Eurovision is a great chance to start of to bolster their careers in their home countries. So I wonder if the Germans actually like this song, I haven't heard a response apart from anecdotal evidence.

LOL! I am not pressed. It seems like you are the one who is pressed by throwing digs at Isaak.

Still not addressing the question and diverging with a whole lot of nothingness.
The reasons you gave are all about the popularity of the song.
But still doesn't justify why Germany's song should be ranked below Greece's one from a jury perspective.

Maybe learn to deal that juries just don't appreciate Greece's song as much as Germany's one.

 

[Lumina]

So I wonder if the Germans actually like this song, I haven't heard a response apart from anecdotal evidence.

I literally wrote above that we like Isaak in my town. He has won many many new fans due his participation. And chart success is not really important. Lord of the Lost‘s Blood & Glitter wasn’t successful in the official German charts but they are one of Germany‘s most successful rock bands ever with millions of sold albums etc.

 

[Chalphon]

This has great potential, I think Germany will do well this year.

Called it in February. I'm usually totally sh#t at predictions so I really need to point this one out...

 

[Lumina]

Isaak went live a few times to talk to his fans and people out there and he is SO FUNNY!! He has this serious dry humour while wearing a serious face expression and everyone asked him if he was sad. That was really funny.

Also, I just read that Isaak was on the iTunes Charts in ARMENIA!! I know, iTunes, but he was one of ten ESC countries only.
That’s crazy! Who would have though he‘s doing so well.

He was #3 in Global Streaming Artists in Germany.

I wish him all the best and I will surely follow his career! He is so LIVING for his music. He is burning to be a street musician / busker - that are his roots and he wants to get back to them. He‘s glowing when he has the chance to play on the streets, that’s so sweet.

 

[toinou03]

Very happy with Isaak's placing. There was room d'or jury rewarding this year amongst all the comedy acts, and he did a great job.
The vocals are brilliant and the song is a good song. The staging was clever because it distracted from the fact that Isaak has no club what to do on stage and with the cameras.
Yes, it has grown on me and is on my favorites this year while I didn't really bother before.

 

[Milos-BC]

Still not a big fan of the song but he did perform it very well and I am glad it did pretty good because the German fans deserved more than they were getting in recent years.

Of course, for me, it would have been better if this was achieved with a song that I really liked (like Lord of the Lost last year) but we can't have everything.

I am happy for the result nonetheless.

 

[mauve]

Of course, for me, it would have been better if this was achieved with a song that I really liked (like Lord of the Lost last year) but we can't have everything.

So true. Nevertheless it was an amzing experience seeing the points coming from the Juries. But I fear next year we will be back to the same routine.