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Germany GERMANY 2023 - Lord of the Lost - Blood and Glitter
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ESC94
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Knew it was fixed for Ikke to lose anyway. The true daddy of Germany deserves better
midnightsun
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Of course the NF was manipulated… Ikke shouldn’t act as if we all didn’t know it was VERY suspicious Will Church especially and Rene and Anica were loved by the juries by such a great margin… especially those who got the fewest points from the public. No coincidence!
The same happened in Sweden too. Why do people think Loreen got „only“ 8 pts from Croatia? But I won’t say any more because I‘m accused of conspiracy theories
The same happened in Sweden too. Why do people think Loreen got „only“ 8 pts from Croatia? But I won’t say any more because I‘m accused of conspiracy theories
midnightsun
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Just got tickets for their tour with Powerwolf!
Can´t wait to finally see them live!
Awesome! Two birds with one stone…
Such great bands! Powerwolf too!
Happy for you.
I‘m also gonna see LOTL live in May!
Exactly! And let's not forget: Even if LOTL would have gotten 0 points from the Juries, they would have still won with the televoters only.Of course the NF was manipulated… Ikke shouldn’t act as if we all didn’t know it was VERY suspicious Will Church especially and Rene and Anica were loved by the juries by such a great margin… especially those who got the fewest points from the public. No coincidence!
The same happened in Sweden too. Why do people think Loreen got „only“ 8 pts from Croatia? But I won’t say any more because I‘m accused of conspiracy theories
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You said Wild Youth could be a surprise qualifier suddenly makes more sense
Don't throw around baseless conspiracy theories then?Of course the NF was manipulated… Ikke shouldn’t act as if we all didn’t know it was VERY suspicious Will Church especially and Rene and Anica were loved by the juries by such a great margin… especially those who got the fewest points from the public. No coincidence!
The same happened in Sweden too. Why do people think Loreen got „only“ 8 pts from Croatia? But I won’t say any more because I‘m accused of conspiracy theories
And Ikke KNOWS what he is doing. His fanbase are close to the AfD and hate ARD/ZDF/NDR and want them defunded.
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The juries always go for songs like this, lol. It's nothing new and the result wasn't surprising at all. Ikke's song was terrible and so was his performance. Even without the juries he wouldn't have won. It's funny to me that he is accusing them of manipulation. If anything the show was manipulated to benefit him. It's not the NDRs fault that he couldn't sing. But I'm glad that he and Jan are doing this. He will definitely never be invited again and Jan will not be our commentator. Thank god.Of course the NF was manipulated… Ikke shouldn’t act as if we all didn’t know it was VERY suspicious Will Church especially and Rene and Anica were loved by the juries by such a great margin… especially those who got the fewest points from the public. No coincidence!
The same happened in Sweden too. Why do people think Loreen got „only“ 8 pts from Croatia? But I won’t say any more because I‘m accused of conspiracy theories
ESC94
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It´s even more ridiculous that he´s making this accusations a WHOLE MONTH after the NF when no one really cares anymore!! If there really was some fraud he should have said this right after the show, now he really appears like a sore loser. Now I´m even more against him at the ESC than before and I had now idea that´s even possible. This ***** should go back where he belongs, to all the drunken morons on Mallorca!!
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LMLandLoreenfan
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Oh noo...Germany being Germany as usual. I doubt that LOTL will benefit from this whole scenario. And Jan Böhmermann annoys me a lot. Doesn't he stand for political correctness normally? Makes sense considering Ikke's Blackfacing 
Ikke should be glad he was allowed to perform in the national final...
Ikke should be glad he was allowed to perform in the national final...
LMLandLoreenfan
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If Jan Böhmermann actually knows something, then he is going to make a drama out of it as usual which means that Germany is really "lord of the lost" this year...Again.
As if the people voting in May would even know about any of this or be upset that we send LOTL instead of a talentless twat like Ikke Hüftgold.
Showed another friend today LOTL and Ikke
He said if Ikke had won, ESC would have had another iconic character like epic sax guy... LOTL are 'boring'
He said if Ikke had won, ESC would have had another iconic character like epic sax guy... LOTL are 'boring'
Weird take, epic sax guy was a meme for every age group, but how could Ikke become one? That forced boomer humour never managed to appeal to younger audiences, no one would care. And next to the new Eurovision Icon Käärijä he's nothing.
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Yeah, a lot of people who want Ikke are probably the same people who call Eurovision trash and say that the music in Eurovision is crap ironically because of acts like Ikke. I'm glad Eurovision is moving a bit away from these "joke" acts. I rather have serious artists and bands like LOTL, Joker Out, Blanca Paloma than these unfunny acts.
ESC94
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And these are the same people who complain afterwards that "Europe hates Germany", "we should leave" and so on. It´s really the same bs over and over again.
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LMLandLoreenfan
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As Jan is one of the most influencial people in german TV..Yes, there might be an impact. It depends on how the media will respond to this.
ESC94
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As you said, on German TV, I strongly doubt anyone cares about this unfunny guy in Europe.
I don't think a casual viewer in Serbia, Croatia, Finland, or anywhere outside the german speaking parts, gives a flying f*** about what Jan Böhmermann has to say about the german national final.
And without concrete evidence that NDR forged all the televotes for LOTL, this is all just random accusations to begin with.
If he comes back after easter and bitches about how NDR wouldn't give him full creative freedom and if he would've been able to do xyz he would've won, then we know it's just a bunch of bs anyway.
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ESC94
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To be honest even here in
he´s a very polarizing figure and many people hate/don´t like him and think he´s a narcissistic and unfunny self-promoter.
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