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France FRANCE 2023 - La Zarra - Évidemment

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    54 28.0%

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SpiritofKeiino said:
Agree. Fulenn failed because the staging was messy and vocals poor. I liked the studio version of that song but the performance was a mess and when I saw it I said people across Europe aren't going to vote for it.
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I had that feeling when they won the national final. Actually I told my boyfriend and he laughed at me. This year I have the same feeling with Czechia for example…
 
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Attention to all Evidenment fans out there! We need to collectively promote La Zarra in the [Promote and Relegate 2023] game in Guildo's games on the forum. We have been locked in a stalemate with finland for the past two days and we need all La Zarra fans to help turn the tide around in our favour!
 
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SpiritofKeiino said:
Agree. Fulenn failed because the staging was messy and vocals poor. I liked the studio version of that song but the performance was a mess and when I saw it I said people across Europe aren't going to vote for it.
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Which was an actual shame because its actually a very interesting song-and it's great!
empo21 said:
Based on interviews and them teasing 'sparkly staging', they might be aiming to recreate the MV after all, which would be very pretty on stage.
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Ooooh!! Very classy, but sparkly and slick? Yes please. This could look stunning.
 
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I´m a little bit scared about vocals. But it´s still :12: points and my 5th place.
 
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boyardor said:
I´m a little bit scared about vocals. But it´s still :12: points and my 5th place.
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I was after the pre parties, but that tv performance she did the other week was excellent. I really hope her vocals hold up on the night and that she gets a late running order slot
 
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John1 said:
For the record, the running order slot barely matters at all. If you have a good song, you do well, period. ;)
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Czechia last year got 125 points in the televote from the last slot in the Semi-Final with 21 countries voting. They opened the final and got 5 points with 40 countries voting. Running order has a massive impact on outcome.
 
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12Pointsgoto..... said:
Czechia last year got 125 points in the televote from the last slot in the Semi-Final with 21 countries voting. They opened the final and got 5 points with 40 countries voting. Running order has a massive impact on outcome.
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In the final, there were more countries (about 60% more ), there were different countries, different people who voted (semis tend to have more hardcore fans and in the final you have people from more countries). There are also more people over all who voted. Furthermore people tend to concentrate more or even all of their votes on their favorite in the final, because it‘s about the win, whereas in the semis people split their votes more often (not all of them of course). And there is a different running order which is influenced by the expectations how well a song will do (because people think the running order has a huge impact, so songs that are expected to do poorly are put into spots that are considered „bad ones“ It‘s basically a self fulfilling prophecy because weaker songs are thus much more often in „bad spots“).
So if you take all of that into consideration, you have huge stastical factors, plus some others and the impact of one of these (the running order) is far away from „massive“. There may be an influence but it‘s largely overhyped by the fans. The actual number of your spot is even less important than the fact who is starting right before or after an act (whether there is a big contrast musically or if its a favorite and this gets more
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Sammy said:
In the final, there were more countries (about 60% more ), there were different countries, different people who voted (semis tend to have more hardcore fans and in the final you have people from more countries). There are also more people over all who voted. Furthermore people tend to concentrate more or even all of their votes on their favorite in the final, because it‘s about the win, whereas in the semis people split their votes more often (not all of them of course). And there is a different running order which is influenced by the expectations how well a song will do (because people think the running order has a huge impact, so songs that are expected to do poorly are put into spots that are considered „bad ones“ It‘s basically a self fulfilling prophecy because weaker aongs are thus much more often in „bad spots“).
So if you take all of that into consideration, you have huge stastical factors, plus some others and the impact of one of these (the running order) is far away from „massive“. There may be an influence but it‘s largely overhyped by the fans. The actual number of your spot is even less important than the fact who is starting right before or after an act (whether ther is a big contrast musically or if its a favorite and this gets more
attention)
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Thanks for replying that before I had the chance to do so. xqueenbitch
 
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For me at least, the appeal of Fulenn was never the song, which I thought was quite flat and amateur-ish, at best serviceable, especially compared to Solovey or Shum, but the performance of Ilhan and how tight the tv-package in the national final was.

Even though I really don't like this year's French entry, at least there is an alright song here at the center of it, and she seems to be a capable enough performer. So it should at least escape bottom 5, but beyond that I have no clue wrt how high/low it'll score.
 
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Rehearsal recap from the ESC website:

Ooh la la, this is FABULOUS. It’s Edith Piaf meets Lady Gaga, with La Zarra standing on top of a sparkle-draped plinth wearing a fitted gown made entirely from black and red sequins. And when we say 'plinth', we mean a moving column five metres off the ground, draped in sparkly black fabric all the way to the floor. The fabric disappears to reveal a cylindrical column with a mirror-tiled top, upon which La Zarra is giving this vocal everything - bonus points for the French flag on the LED wall at the end. This is ART. Put it in the Louvre immediately.
 
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