Finland FINLAND 2023 - Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha

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[heke1988]

It’s quite remarkable how a whole Nordic nation managed to coordinate a big zero to Sweden. Tactical televoting on that scale is some achievement.

Well voting costs here 1 euro per vote. Also Germans were also close to give Sweden 0 televote points.

 

[Mainshow]

Well voting costs here 1 euro per vote. Also Germans were also close to give Sweden 0 televote points.

This.

What about "diaspora, neighbouring" votes getting "reduced" due to Eurovision being even more popular in Finland this year?
It's not like didn't finish Top 15 in televoting.

We Germands didn't organsie some "tactical voting" either. "Tattoo" was universally liked (being part of every country's Top 13) but some countries simply ranked it a bit lower than other countries did... and Loreen not getting a single set of proves that she might not have been the most popular choice this year.

 

[Ezio]

It’s quite remarkable how a whole Nordic nation managed to coordinate a big zero to Sweden. Tactical televoting on that scale is some achievement.

I don't think the Finns have such a hunch for polished, overproduced and derivative songs than the Scandinavians. But I hardly know them.

But Sweden themselves have also managed to blank Norway in 1995, probably the best winner ever.

 

[heke1988]

I don't think the Finns have such a hunch for polished, overproduced and derivative songs than the Scandinavians. But I hardly know them.

But Sweden themselves have also managed to blank Norway in 1995, probably the best winner ever.

Also Sweden was only country in 1978, who didn't give any points to Israel in 1978. Tactical voting?

 

[Semra]

In my 2023 top 3, together with Tiril and Vicco. All NQ's from the national selections.

Strange you say that. I normally don't like pop (except dark pop). But I liked Vicco a lot! That song actually has something in common with KUUMAA. It has these smooth transitions. It flows so easily and that is a sign of good sognwriting. A very nice song. Tiril was also very good in her performance, but haven't listened to that song much since...

 

[Tsirbula]

https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/13ncxdi
This was an amazing performance!

 

[PollyWantsACracker]

Sweet Lord!

Pauliina on Instagram: "K ä ä r i j ä v o i t t o o n !! Meidän 2-vuotias on aivan mahoton. Hän huus jo 2 kuukautta sitten Tallinnassa virolaisille ”Cha Cha Chaa” ja yritettiin isin kanssa sanoa, että ei taida vielä tietää mitä pieni mies yrittää s

48K likes, 668 comments - paudelina on May 3, 2023: "K ä ä r i j ä v o i t t o o n !! Meidän 2-vuotias on aivan mahoton. Hän huus jo 2 kuukautta sitten Tallinnassa virolaisille ”Cha Cha Chaa” ja yritettiin isin kanssa sanoa, että ei taida vielä tietää mitä pieni mies yrittää sanoa. Veikkaan...

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[jatojo]

Strange you say that. I normally don't like pop (except dark pop). But I liked Vicco a lot! That song actually has something in common with KUUMAA. It has these smooth transitions. It flows so easily and that is a sign of good sognwriting. A very nice song. Tiril was also very good in her performance, but haven't listened to that song much since...

Unfortunately, smoothness is not the recipe of success at Eurovision.

 

[jatojo]

I don't think the Finns have such a hunch for polished, overproduced and derivative songs than the Scandinavians. But I hardly know them.

But Sweden themselves have also managed to blank Norway in 1995, probably the best winner ever.

The Finns gave Sweden 8, 3 and 7 in the previous three contests. It's hard to argue that Loreen's song was worse - or fundamentally different - than all those three.

 

[heke1988]

The Finns gave Sweden 8, 3 and 7 in the previous three contests. It's hard to argue that Loreen's song was worse - or fundamentally different - than all those three.

Perhaps our Finland-Swede population didn't massively voted for Sweden in this year.

 

[I bims]

Perhaps our Finland-Swede population didn't massively voted for Sweden in this year.

Yeah because she was the biggest obstacle for Finland to win
Trust, if we germans ever have a winning song on our hands, I won't give shit to the other song up in the odds.

 

[Tsirbula]

Obviously Finns didn't want to vote for the biggest rival. Deliberate or subconscious, it's only natural. And it played a big part that the rival was Sweden. We don't want to lose to them, It's just a part of our DNA, can't help it.

 

[Tsirbula]

Perhaps our Finland-Swede population didn't massively voted for Sweden in this year.

They aren't really a diaspora community. They are just as ethnic Finns as the rest of Finns. Sure they have bias towards a song in Swedish language. But a basic Swedish song in English? Not at all.

 

[Franzilein]

Dayum, Käärijä's Grand Final performance now got almost as many views as Loreen's on YoUtUbE. From a discrepancy of a few million views after the first few days down to barely 600k. Don't know the last time a runner-up managed to do that, considering the latter gets pretty much hate-watched

 

[Ezio]

Poor Jere still struggling with the robbery of the century

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the more I think about it, the insaner it gets for me. People pay to vote, Jurors are paid to vote. Who gets it their way? Jurors saying that the number 1 song is twice as good as their second place. Countries which give 12 to Finland in the televote but only 0 in the jury vote. So out of touch. Jurors are too old, not representative of the presented music styles and the audience neither. They were needed against block voting but block voting isn’t almost a thing anymore or even reinforced through jurors.
this voting system would have been blown up in 2015, if it existed back then. But I guess it’s good to go in 2024.

 

[boyardor]

What a mashup:

 

[Franzilein]

Dayum, Käärijä's Grand Final performance now got almost as many views as Loreen's on YoUtUbE. From a discrepancy of a few million views after the first few days down to barely 600k. Don't know the last time a runner-up managed to do that, considering the latter gets pretty much hate-watched

... aaaaand overtaken

 

[Realest]

25% ranked him in their Bottom5.

 

[heke1988]

Not love from San Marino and Poland juries.

 

[JenJen94]

Same with UK juries-are they ok?